[time-nuts] 2.5 Ghz 12 digit counter project

2012-12-27 Thread Paul Amaranth
Did anyone see the article in the December Silicon Chips magazine about
building a 12 digit 2.5 GHz counter?  It has an option for a GPS 1pps
input so you could have some expectation that the last couple of
digits mean something.  The website only has the article cover page
in pretty much unreadable type.

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Re: [time-nuts] 2.5 Ghz 12 digit counter project

2012-12-27 Thread Paul Amaranth
Thanks Tom,

It wasn't clear to me if they were using the GPS to discipline an internal
oscillator or just as a 1 second gate.  That diagram was just a little too
small for me to make out.

  Paul

> Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2012 13:17:08 -0800
> From: "Tom Van Baak" 
> To: "Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement"
>   
> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] 2.5 Ghz 12 digit counter project
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> Hi Paul,
> 
> Thanks for bringing this to our attention. The block diagram of the counter 
> is at http://siliconchip.com.au/ (also see attached).
> 
> It looks like a standard 1970's gated/reciprocal  frequency counter design; 
> using 4 digits of high frequency prescaler before it goes into the 8 digit 
> PIC. So the "12 digit" refers to the number of LED's on the front panel. Not 
> to be confused with the "12 digits per second" spec of a modern 
> interpolator-based frequency counter. I.e., it's high range, not high 
> resolution. I see it accepts external 1 Hz gate times from a GPS receiver; 
> further suggesting the resolution is 7- or 8-digits/sec. Still, a nicely 
> designed PIC-based casual bench frequency counter.
> 
> If eventually the full article is available online let us know. It would be 
> an interesting read.
> 
> Does anyone know Jim Rowe (Australia)? A related project of his was the UHF 
> Prescaler For Frequency Counters 
> (http://archive.siliconchip.com.au/cms/A_107676/article.html).
> 
> /tvb
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Paul Amaranth" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2012 11:12 AM
> Subject: [time-nuts] 2.5 Ghz 12 digit counter project
> 
> 
> > Did anyone see the article in the December Silicon Chips magazine about
> > building a 12 digit 2.5 GHz counter?  It has an option for a GPS 1pps
> > input so you could have some expectation that the last couple of
> > digits mean something.  The website only has the article cover page
> > in pretty much unreadable type.
> > 
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Re: [time-nuts] OT, looking for a good science forum

2013-01-26 Thread Paul Amaranth
> Message: 4
> Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2013 16:28:19 +0100
> From: Fabio Eboli 
> To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement
>   
> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] OT, looking for a good science forum
> Message-ID: <5ef3f142b075fcab38182666a4e50...@quipo.it>
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> 
> Il 2013-01-26 14:58 Bob Camp ha scritto:
> > Hi
> >
> > Platinum RTD's are a pretty good bet for -80C, they hold up well down
> > there. For calibration, ammonia and acetylene both have triple points
> > in the vicinity. I'd probably try ammonia first, but not for any good
> 
> Doesn't acetylene have a bad habit of dissociate when pure liquid?
> 
> Fabio.
> 

Yes, it's normally stored disolved in acetone.  It also spontaneously 
dissociates 
if pressures exceed 15 psig or 30 psi absolute.  That could put a real damper 
on your day.


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Re: [time-nuts] Nifty "MINI TIC" for DMTD

2013-02-08 Thread Paul Amaranth
I use a set of surgical loupes.  For smd work you need 3.5 - 4.0x, but
the major problem with cheap ones is a very small depth of field.

I have a sec of Galilaen loupes marked 3.5x, but are really 2x.  They're
good for general work.  Once you get into 4x, you're into Keplarian
loupes.  I have a set of 4.0x with about a 1cm depth of field that
were pretty cheap; I'm looking to change those out.

The loupes are nice; you get binocular vision and 16-18 inch working
distance.

  Paul

> Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2013 13:12:27 -0800
> From: "DaveH" 
> To: "'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement'"
>   
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> Check to see if there are any tech auctions in your area.
> 
> Picked up a nice scope with stand and illuminator for $90 in the Seattle
> area.
> 
> Dave
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com 
> > [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Dan Kemppainen
> > Sent: Friday, February 08, 2013 12:25
> > To: time-nuts@febo.com
> > Subject: [time-nuts] Nifty "MINI TIC" for DMTD
> > 
> > We do 0603 and 0402 with IC's at .5mm lead spacing all day 
> > long. Under 
> > stereo zoom, it's not an issue. We have 50+ year old techs who build 
> > this stuff all day...
> > 

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Re: [time-nuts] lightweight webserver for, e.g., NTP widget

2013-02-12 Thread Paul Amaranth
I like to use mongoose
  http://code.google.com/p/mongoose/

The project page says 50Kb executable, although it balooned up to 63K the
last time I built it.

> On Feb 11, 2013, at 3:01 PM, Jim Lux wrote:
> 
> > I'm intrigued by the possibility of using a lightweight web server to 
> > provide a management/user interface to test equipment or appliances (e.g. 
> > like the NTP server recently discussed, or a box with mixers and counters).
> > 
> > I've built some web interfaces to very small things using Arduinos and 
> > Rabbits, and it works ok for simple stuff (turning on and off switches), 
> > but as soon as you start looking at a bit more complexity (e.g. you want to 
> > move files around), a bit more sophistication on your server seems useful.  
> > Or, for instance, if you have a DDS you want to program to follow a 
> > particular sequence of frequencies (e.g. to match a particular Doppler 
> > profile, in my case). Or a data acquisition application.
> > 
> > The appeal that the "user client" is that any old web-browser is pretty 
> > generic.
> > 
> > I've done this "sort of" by exposing a directory as a public share (SMB) 
> > and then "browsing" to that file, using the file:// mechanism, but it seems 
> > that actually having a real server might be useful (for things like POST 
> > from a form, for instance)
> > 
> > But, on the other hand, it seems that something like Apache is a bit much 
> > to manage.
> > 
> > Is there something that runs under Linux on a lightweight single board PC 
> > (Raspberry pi or Intel Mini-ITX Atom mobos) that isn't too much of a pain, 
> > and doesn't require you to be a full time web server administrator to make 
> > it work?
> > 
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[time-nuts] 1 pps comparison for 3 GPS receivers

2012-09-06 Thread Paul Amaranth
Ran across this paper the other day.

   http://www.scribd.com/doc/39055898/10-1-1-1-73

Not absolutely rigorous, since the specs of the reference
are a bit vague, but interesting.  I was interested since
I ended up with a pile of Trimble Lassen modules.

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Re: [time-nuts] Contact: Jupiter GPS questions

2012-10-19 Thread Paul Amaranth
> Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 07:27:39 -0700
> From: Keenan Tims 
> To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement
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> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Fwd: Re: Contact: Jupiter GPS questions
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> 
> There is an MSP430 port of GCC that works fine, and mspdebug is able to
> write the code to the chip via the programming hardware that comes on
> the Launchpad boards. TI also provides several free IDEs with code size
> limits, if you prefer that route. Definitely not as easy for a beginner
> as an Arduino - the chips are more complicated and the documentation a
> bit more arcane - but there's still a good community around them and
> decent tools available for free. There's also the ST 'DISCOVERY' series.
> Much more powerful chips, on a board, with a USB programmer still around
> the $10 mark, but coding for ARM is again another step up the difficulty
> ladder.
> 

I've built a couple of projects using an Arduino clone.  Very easy to get
working, there's a complete IDE available and it's pretty simple to set
up a standard "make" environment if that's your preference.  I'm rather
sold on these.

I recently picked up a couple of TI LM4F120 evaluation kits.  These were
$5 each INCLUDING SHIPPING.  There's a free gcc based toolchain for
those too.

If you don't like C, you can use a Basic Stamp.  They've been around
a long while.  

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[time-nuts] TI Chronos watch synced with NTP

2013-09-04 Thread Paul Amaranth
This is something I've been thinking of doing.  And, TI is running a
back-to-school special on the Chronos watch now, < $30 shipped.

Looks like this requires manual syncing; I'd like to have it sync
whenever it's in range, but that shouldn't be a big deal.  Expand the
video description to get a link to the source on github.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7fAdWZXn2k

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Re: [time-nuts] TI Chronos watch synced with NTP

2013-09-04 Thread Paul Amaranth
I knew I should have included the link

http://e2e.ti.com/blogs_/b/msp430blog/archive/2013/09/01/back-to-school-sale-part-3-ez430-chronos.aspx

Write down the correct coupon code and enter it on the payment screen.

  Paul

> From: Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX 
> 
> Where can one get this for less than $30 shipped??
> 
> On 09/04/2013 07:50 AM, Paul Amaranth wrote:
> > This is something I've been thinking of doing.  And, TI is running a
> > back-to-school special on the Chronos watch now, < $30 shipped.
> >
> > Looks like this requires manual syncing; I'd like to have it sync
> > whenever it's in range, but that shouldn't be a big deal.  Expand the
> > video description to get a link to the source on github.
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7fAdWZXn2k
> >
> 
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