Re: [time-nuts] PTS synthesizers
Ah so, master Joe, your net-fu is very good. I forgot that my stuff might be archived. Fabulous resource. So, while we are at it, here is some more PTS info. There are two general families of these synthesizers. I may not get this exactly right, from memory, but it should be close enough for discussion. The first group (older design, I think) used a bunch of modules to synthesize decades of frequencies and mix to generate the output. The second group uses a more modern DDS synthesis process with fewer internal modules. The PTS 160 and 250 are common examples of models in the first group. I also have a D310 which contains two of the second family synthesizers inside, and only has GPIB control in the one I found. The KO4BB site, manuals section, used to have some helpful documents. The 500 manual was an example of the first group and the 310 manual, an example of the second group. These scans had many extras, including scans of many module descriptions with schematics. There is one module, in both manuals, that covers the GPIB interface for units with that feature. The scans were in the 20 Mb size range since they are all images, not searchable text. Using Joe's lead, there are disappeared links... http://web.archive.org/web/20071013115001/http://www.ko4bb.com/Manuals/ specifically... http://web.archive.org/web/20071013115001/http://www.ko4bb.com/Manuals/PTS500.pdf http://web.archive.org/web/20071013115001/http://www.ko4bb.com/Manuals/PTS310.pdf Hope that helps the OP's quests. -Rex On 2/9/2012 5:45 PM, Joseph Gray wrote: I don't have any PTS gear, but the Internet Archive has this old page: http://web.archive.org/web/20080821140147/http://www.xertech.net/Tech/PTS.html And a quick Google turned up these links: http://w8bl.com/page/5 http://www.artisan-scientific.com/info/pts_3200_manual.pdf I don't expect companies to provide documentation on obsolete equipment, but I don't see the harm in someone else doing so. I think in the long run, supporting older equipment generates good will toward a company and possible sales. Joe Gray W5JG ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] PTS synthesizers
I don't have any PTS gear, but the Internet Archive has this old page: http://web.archive.org/web/20080821140147/http://www.xertech.net/Tech/PTS.html And a quick Google turned up these links: http://w8bl.com/page/5 http://www.artisan-scientific.com/info/pts_3200_manual.pdf I don't expect companies to provide documentation on obsolete equipment, but I don't see the harm in someone else doing so. I think in the long run, supporting older equipment generates good will toward a company and possible sales. Joe Gray W5JG ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] PTS synthesizers
The pin-outs are the same on the BCD input connector, but how the high-order controls map differs between models. For example, the PTS-160 doesn't use the 4-bits for 100 MHz, but rather takes input on the 10 MHz bits up to a value of 16. The PTS-250 does use the 100 MHz bits, with values of 0, 1, or 2 as possibilities. One might expect the PTS-160 to respond to 0 or 1 on the 100 MHz inputs, but that isn't the way it is designed. On 2/9/2012 2:15 PM, Geraldo Lino de Campos wrote: Yes, the pinout is the same for all models. If anyone is interested, I have the manual for the PTS-3200 and can send the interface pinout. Message: 9 Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2012 11:41:52 -0800 From: ed breya To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] PTS synthesizers Message-ID:<201202091942.q19jg15d031...@mail16c40.carrierzone.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Thanks, Nigel, I think your history description is about right - I vaguely recall seeing the Rockland brand too. I guess PTS is the current survivor - the PTS D310 seems quite new, and the company seems to be still in business in their niche. Ignacio sent me a pinout page for the PTS 040/160/250, which probably represents a standard arrangement used for all the models, hopefully just extended by including more bits for higher frequency units. The D310 is a dual .1 - 310- MHz type, with two program connectors. Also, I do recall that they used IEC color codes on the ribbon cables for convenient tracing of the 8,4,2,1 bits within each BCD digit, so it should be fairly easy to figure out the details. Ed Geraldo Lino de Campos gera...@decampos.net ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] PTS synthesizers
Rex, Nice to know who is the author, and I'm glad to thank you for it. And your info about the PTS nonsense policy explain why it is so difficult to find their manuals on line, I tried yesterday to find where were some manuals that I fortunately had downloaded in the past but without success. These manuals had no trade secrets by any means and the result is that some future purchase can be "derailed" just for this absurd policy Regards, Ignacio, EB4APL On 10/02/2012 0:35, Rex wrote: On 2/9/2012 8:39 AM, EB4APL wrote: About the remote control info, I have a sheet entitled "PTS-040-1600_Prog.doc" that I downloaded some time ago, but I'm not able to find from where, maybe it was from your page. I has everything that is needed for external control. Best regards, Ignacio, EB4APL The "PTS-040-1600_Prog.doc" was created by me -- looks like in 2007. It is very similar to the info in various PTS manuals I was able to find, but tries to define differences in the control bits that are used across the various units from the PTS-040 to the PTS-1600. It was based on some guesswork, so not sure if it is totally correct, but never heard of any problems, except one big one... I had it on my web pages (xertech.net), with some other accumulated documentation. It is one of the things I was directly asked by PTS to take down, as it is based on PTS copyrighted material but additionally was not an exact copy from PTS documents. C'est la vie. "Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da." -Rex, KK6MK ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] PTS synthesizers
On 2/9/2012 8:39 AM, EB4APL wrote: About the remote control info, I have a sheet entitled "PTS-040-1600_Prog.doc" that I downloaded some time ago, but I'm not able to find from where, maybe it was from your page. I has everything that is needed for external control. Best regards, Ignacio, EB4APL The "PTS-040-1600_Prog.doc" was created by me -- looks like in 2007. It is very similar to the info in various PTS manuals I was able to find, but tries to define differences in the control bits that are used across the various units from the PTS-040 to the PTS-1600. It was based on some guesswork, so not sure if it is totally correct, but never heard of any problems, except one big one... I had it on my web pages (xertech.net), with some other accumulated documentation. It is one of the things I was directly asked by PTS to take down, as it is based on PTS copyrighted material but additionally was not an exact copy from PTS documents. C'est la vie. "Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da." -Rex, KK6MK ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] PTS synthesizers
Yes, the pinout is the same for all models. If anyone is interested, I have the manual for the PTS-3200 and can send the interface pinout. > Message: 9 > Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2012 11:41:52 -0800 > From: ed breya > To: time-nuts@febo.com > Subject: Re: [time-nuts] PTS synthesizers > Message-ID: <201202091942.q19jg15d031...@mail16c40.carrierzone.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed > > Thanks, Nigel, I think your history description is about right - I > vaguely recall seeing the Rockland brand too. I guess PTS is the > current survivor - the PTS D310 seems quite new, and the company > seems to be still in business in their niche. > > Ignacio sent me a pinout page for the PTS 040/160/250, which probably > represents a standard arrangement used for all the models, hopefully > just extended by including more bits for higher frequency units. The > D310 is a dual .1 - 310- MHz type, with two program connectors. Also, > I do recall that they used IEC color codes on the ribbon cables for > convenient tracing of the 8,4,2,1 bits within each BCD digit, so it > should be fairly easy to figure out the details. > > Ed > > > > > Geraldo Lino de Campos gera...@decampos.net ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] PTS synthesizers
Thanks, Nigel, I think your history description is about right - I vaguely recall seeing the Rockland brand too. I guess PTS is the current survivor - the PTS D310 seems quite new, and the company seems to be still in business in their niche. Ignacio sent me a pinout page for the PTS 040/160/250, which probably represents a standard arrangement used for all the models, hopefully just extended by including more bits for higher frequency units. The D310 is a dual .1 - 310- MHz type, with two program connectors. Also, I do recall that they used IEC color codes on the ribbon cables for convenient tracing of the 8,4,2,1 bits within each BCD digit, so it should be fairly easy to figure out the details. Ed ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] PTS synthesizers
In a message dated 09/02/2012 02:08:49 GMT Standard Time, e...@telight.com writes: I don't remember which owns which, but some PTS models are under the Wavetek brand. I have a Wavetek 5135A, which looks and acts just like the PTS 160 - As far as I can tell, it seems to have started with Rockland, eventually absorbed by Wavetek, with PTS coming along a bit later and perhaps formed by ex Rockland or Wavetek personnel. The earliest unit I've seen, not saying there might not have been something earlier, is the Rockland 5600 and the original Wavetek 5120As were branded "Wavetek Rockland" with later ones just branded "Wavetek". All PTS units I've seen seem to be more recent, so although the PTS web site does claim they announced their first product in 1975 I have wondered if that's actually a reference to the original Rockland products, which again might suggest some at least of the original personnel still being involved. I'm not familiar with the 5135A, but if that's very similar to the PTS160 then it sounds like yet another variant. One things for sure, not only do the Rockland 5600, Wavetek 5120A, and PTS160, have basically the same spec, but having compared them in detail I was quite surprised just how much of the electronics they share too. There are differences but there's also a heck of a lot that's the same even though module part numbers may vary, and some differently laid out module schematics turn out to be almost, if not completely, identical. I also have a PTS D310 that I plan to fix up with two sets of wheel switches to be built into the front panel, but don't recall if I already found the parallel interface data - especially the pinout. Is that readily available? I've not seen the internal layout of the D310, but all the necessary schematic information for the switching should be in any of the manuals. I've got some High Res photos of the motherboard of one on my PTS160s that might help give a better idea of how the switch wiring is implemented in practice, and could take more of the actual switch connections if that would help. regards Nigel GM8PZR ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] PTS synthesizers
John, Thank you for your offer but my PTS-040 has its own front panel controls so I'm served on this side. I was asking about the remote interface figuring out it was something that Bill Fuqua had published for controlling the synthesizer, maybe from a PC. About the remote control info, I have a sheet entitled "PTS-040-1600_Prog.doc" that I downloaded some time ago, but I'm not able to find from where, maybe it was from your page. I has everything that is needed for external control. Best regards, Ignacio, EB4APL On 09/02/2012 1:56, John Ackermann N8UR wrote: Jim Lux said the following on 02/08/2012 07:17 PM: On 2/8/12 3:23 PM, EB4APL wrote: I want to take advantage of the topic just to ask if anybody has any manual or schematics of the PTS 040. I realize that the PTS 160 is close enough, taking in account the different frequency range, and they use almost the same modules but it would be nice to have the right manual. What is about the remote interface? Please, share the info. Way back in the 80s, I used a PTS and the remote interface, so I'm going off memory. As I recall, it's basically a BCD parallel thing with a strobe. The general architecture of their synthesizers is a series of decade modules, so the parallel interface just extends that to as many digits as you have modules. Settling time to the new frequency is pretty fast (<1 microsecond, I think) but not necessarily phase continuous, and, there can be glitches during the transition (i.e. if one module switches faster than the others). no fancy-shmancy DDSes back in those days. The remote interface is very simple to talk to; in fact, I've wired up a mating connector with just a bunch of jumpers right in the connector for a single frequency. It is BCD with a couple of twists -- the programming info is on some web pages (including one of mine, but I think I still have an error that needs to be fixed in my description). There's a guy who will put front panel controls on a remote-interface PTS, with thumbwheel switches, level control, and BCD connector, along with nice looking labels, for a very reasonable price. Contact me off-list if you'd like his contact info; I'm not sure that he wants it widely published as it's a spare-time business. I've had him modify several units for me, and been very happy with the results. John ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] PTS synthesizers
I forgot to add that I traced out the switch socket on the rear of my 250 unit; each decade socket has four color coded lines that are 4-line BCD and the corresponding switch is needed. I've forgotten if the common from the switches goes to ground or to plus. I think that if a IEEE488 bus connector is present that the decades will also be BCD based. Don Rex > I had a web page up with PTS info that I had gathered, corrected (some), > and consolidated for multiple devices in one doc. > > I got an email from PTS requesting I remove the documents. I now have a > place holder page recommending people look for HP test equipment rather > than PTS. PTS doesn't share HP's (now Agilent) openness about sharing > documents. > > -Rex, KK6MK > > > On 2/8/2012 2:57 PM, gandal...@aol.com wrote: >> >> I still haven't had time yet to try your remote interface, which I >> suspect >> others here might also find very interesting, but I have completed >> the >> scans of my X10 and PTS250 manuals and will be making those available >> as soon >> as I've finished processing the images. >> >> Regards >> >> Nigel >> GM8PZR >> >> >> In a message dated 08/02/2012 22:11:29 GMT Standard Time, >> wlfuq...@uky.edu >> writes: >> >> I am new to the list and would like to know if anyone has a list of >> the >> suffixes (options) for PTS synthesizers. There seem to be a number of >> them >> that are not in their catalog. >> >> ___ >> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com >> To unsubscribe, go to >> https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts >> and follow the instructions there. >> >> > > > ___ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. > -- "Neither the voice of authority nor the weight of reason and argument are as significant as experiment, for thence comes quiet to the mind." R. Bacon "If you don't know what it is, don't poke it." Ghost in the Shell Dr. Don Latham AJ7LL Six Mile Systems LLP 17850 Six Mile Road POB 134 Huson, MT, 59846 VOX 406-626-4304 www.lightningforensics.com www.sixmilesystems.com ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] PTS synthesizers
I have a 250 no manual and would REALLY like a copy of the scan. If it cannot be posted somewhere, could I get a copy mailed to me? Thanks very much! Don Rex > I had a web page up with PTS info that I had gathered, corrected (some), > and consolidated for multiple devices in one doc. > > I got an email from PTS requesting I remove the documents. I now have a > place holder page recommending people look for HP test equipment rather > than PTS. PTS doesn't share HP's (now Agilent) openness about sharing > documents. > > -Rex, KK6MK > > > On 2/8/2012 2:57 PM, gandal...@aol.com wrote: >> >> I still haven't had time yet to try your remote interface, which I >> suspect >> others here might also find very interesting, but I have completed >> the >> scans of my X10 and PTS250 manuals and will be making those available >> as soon >> as I've finished processing the images. >> >> Regards >> >> Nigel >> GM8PZR >> >> >> In a message dated 08/02/2012 22:11:29 GMT Standard Time, >> wlfuq...@uky.edu >> writes: >> >> I am new to the list and would like to know if anyone has a list of >> the >> suffixes (options) for PTS synthesizers. There seem to be a number of >> them >> that are not in their catalog. >> >> ___ >> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com >> To unsubscribe, go to >> https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts >> and follow the instructions there. >> >> > > > ___ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. > -- "Neither the voice of authority nor the weight of reason and argument are as significant as experiment, for thence comes quiet to the mind." R. Bacon "If you don't know what it is, don't poke it." Ghost in the Shell Dr. Don Latham AJ7LL Six Mile Systems LLP 17850 Six Mile Road POB 134 Huson, MT, 59846 VOX 406-626-4304 www.lightningforensics.com www.sixmilesystems.com ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] PTS synthesizers
I had a web page up with PTS info that I had gathered, corrected (some), and consolidated for multiple devices in one doc. I got an email from PTS requesting I remove the documents. I now have a place holder page recommending people look for HP test equipment rather than PTS. PTS doesn't share HP's (now Agilent) openness about sharing documents. -Rex, KK6MK On 2/8/2012 2:57 PM, gandal...@aol.com wrote: I still haven't had time yet to try your remote interface, which I suspect others here might also find very interesting, but I have completed the scans of my X10 and PTS250 manuals and will be making those available as soon as I've finished processing the images. Regards Nigel GM8PZR In a message dated 08/02/2012 22:11:29 GMT Standard Time, wlfuq...@uky.edu writes: I am new to the list and would like to know if anyone has a list of the suffixes (options) for PTS synthesizers. There seem to be a number of them that are not in their catalog. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
[time-nuts] PTS synthesizers
I don't remember which owns which, but some PTS models are under the Wavetek brand. I have a Wavetek 5135A, which looks and acts just like the PTS 160. I also have a PTS D310 that I plan to fix up with two sets of wheel switches to be built into the front panel, but don't recall if I already found the parallel interface data - especially the pinout. Is that readily available? Ed ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] PTS synthesizers
You are right, the golden bricks were from the Mark III, we were supposed to wear white cotton gloves to handle them. This was a wonderful receiver, the one who put the man in the Moon and tracked Pioneer X from Jupiter and beyond. I heard that Viterbi himself was in the design team, probably leading the PLL stuff. Good old days, even we were younger. Regards, Ignacio On 09/02/2012 2:39, Jim Lux wrote: On 2/8/12 4:47 PM, EB4APL wrote: Jim, I already have the info on the remote interface, taken from the PTS 160 doc and other sources, I was asking if he was talking about some specific gadget. I also was using at those years some remotely controlled PTS's , did you know the JPL MK IV receiver exciter? I think it was also a 040 but I'm not sure, because these changed the phase smoothly but I think that there is an option with a DDS to allow such thing. Unfortunatelly those exciters are now dismantled and I think the doc was dumped, anyway I'll have to make a phone call. Could be. We have tons and tons of 3325Bs and 3325As floating around, though. I haven't seen any PTS recently, however, a quick check of the asset database shows a fair number of them "owned" by Rabi Wang and William Diener. The latter has most of them.. Models PTS040SANIX-7, PTS250 and X10SAN10 for the most part. Both of those guys are in the Frequency and Timing Advanced Instrument Development Group. A couple years ago, we cleaned out some storage closets FULL of those gold plated brick shaped modules that made up the Mark III (at least that's what I was told). ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] PTS synthesizers
On 2/8/12 4:47 PM, EB4APL wrote: Jim, I already have the info on the remote interface, taken from the PTS 160 doc and other sources, I was asking if he was talking about some specific gadget. I also was using at those years some remotely controlled PTS's , did you know the JPL MK IV receiver exciter? I think it was also a 040 but I'm not sure, because these changed the phase smoothly but I think that there is an option with a DDS to allow such thing. Unfortunatelly those exciters are now dismantled and I think the doc was dumped, anyway I'll have to make a phone call. Could be. We have tons and tons of 3325Bs and 3325As floating around, though. I haven't seen any PTS recently, however, a quick check of the asset database shows a fair number of them "owned" by Rabi Wang and William Diener. The latter has most of them.. Models PTS040SANIX-7, PTS250 and X10SAN10 for the most part. Both of those guys are in the Frequency and Timing Advanced Instrument Development Group. A couple years ago, we cleaned out some storage closets FULL of those gold plated brick shaped modules that made up the Mark III (at least that's what I was told). ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] PTS synthesizers
Jim Lux said the following on 02/08/2012 07:17 PM: On 2/8/12 3:23 PM, EB4APL wrote: I want to take advantage of the topic just to ask if anybody has any manual or schematics of the PTS 040. I realize that the PTS 160 is close enough, taking in account the different frequency range, and they use almost the same modules but it would be nice to have the right manual. What is about the remote interface? Please, share the info. Way back in the 80s, I used a PTS and the remote interface, so I'm going off memory. As I recall, it's basically a BCD parallel thing with a strobe. The general architecture of their synthesizers is a series of decade modules, so the parallel interface just extends that to as many digits as you have modules. Settling time to the new frequency is pretty fast (<1 microsecond, I think) but not necessarily phase continuous, and, there can be glitches during the transition (i.e. if one module switches faster than the others). no fancy-shmancy DDSes back in those days. The remote interface is very simple to talk to; in fact, I've wired up a mating connector with just a bunch of jumpers right in the connector for a single frequency. It is BCD with a couple of twists -- the programming info is on some web pages (including one of mine, but I think I still have an error that needs to be fixed in my description). There's a guy who will put front panel controls on a remote-interface PTS, with thumbwheel switches, level control, and BCD connector, along with nice looking labels, for a very reasonable price. Contact me off-list if you'd like his contact info; I'm not sure that he wants it widely published as it's a spare-time business. I've had him modify several units for me, and been very happy with the results. John ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] PTS synthesizers
Jim, I already have the info on the remote interface, taken from the PTS 160 doc and other sources, I was asking if he was talking about some specific gadget. I also was using at those years some remotely controlled PTS's , did you know the JPL MK IV receiver exciter? I think it was also a 040 but I'm not sure, because these changed the phase smoothly but I think that there is an option with a DDS to allow such thing. Unfortunatelly those exciters are now dismantled and I think the doc was dumped, anyway I'll have to make a phone call. Ignacio On 09/02/2012 1:17, Jim Lux wrote: On 2/8/12 3:23 PM, EB4APL wrote: I want to take advantage of the topic just to ask if anybody has any manual or schematics of the PTS 040. I realize that the PTS 160 is close enough, taking in account the different frequency range, and they use almost the same modules but it would be nice to have the right manual. What is about the remote interface? Please, share the info. Way back in the 80s, I used a PTS and the remote interface, so I'm going off memory. As I recall, it's basically a BCD parallel thing with a strobe. The general architecture of their synthesizers is a series of decade modules, so the parallel interface just extends that to as many digits as you have modules. Settling time to the new frequency is pretty fast (<1 microsecond, I think) but not necessarily phase continuous, and, there can be glitches during the transition (i.e. if one module switches faster than the others). no fancy-shmancy DDSes back in those days. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] PTS synthesizers
On 2/8/12 3:23 PM, EB4APL wrote: I want to take advantage of the topic just to ask if anybody has any manual or schematics of the PTS 040. I realize that the PTS 160 is close enough, taking in account the different frequency range, and they use almost the same modules but it would be nice to have the right manual. What is about the remote interface? Please, share the info. Way back in the 80s, I used a PTS and the remote interface, so I'm going off memory. As I recall, it's basically a BCD parallel thing with a strobe. The general architecture of their synthesizers is a series of decade modules, so the parallel interface just extends that to as many digits as you have modules. Settling time to the new frequency is pretty fast (<1 microsecond, I think) but not necessarily phase continuous, and, there can be glitches during the transition (i.e. if one module switches faster than the others). no fancy-shmancy DDSes back in those days. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] PTS synthesizers
I want to take advantage of the topic just to ask if anybody has any manual or schematics of the PTS 040. I realize that the PTS 160 is close enough, taking in account the different frequency range, and they use almost the same modules but it would be nice to have the right manual. What is about the remote interface? Please, share the info. Best regards, Ignacio, EB4APL On 08/02/2012 23:57, gandal...@aol.com wrote: Hi Bill Welcome aboard, and good to see you again:-) Other than the breakdown at the rear of the catalog, and the various references against individual items, I've never seen another list as such, so If you do have other option numbers it might be easier if you could indicate what they are in case anyone is familiar with them. I still haven't had time yet to try your remote interface, which I suspect others here might also find very interesting, but I have completed the scans of my X10 and PTS250 manuals and will be making those available as soon as I've finished processing the images. Regards Nigel GM8PZR In a message dated 08/02/2012 22:11:29 GMT Standard Time, wlfuq...@uky.edu writes: I am new to the list and would like to know if anyone has a list of the suffixes (options) for PTS synthesizers. There seem to be a number of them that are not in their catalog. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] PTS synthesizers
Start off by downloading their catalog http://www.programmedtest.com/images/pdf/ptscatalog.pdf Jump to pages 28, 29 and 30 If you are LUCKY the synth you have or are looking at can be decoded. For me I'd say 2 out of 3 have characters that are not in the above or, X-nn options that 'never existed' has been the reply from emailing PTS's support. -pete On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 2:10 PM, Bill Fuqua wrote: > I am new to the list and would like to know if anyone has a list of the > suffixes (options) for PTS synthesizers. There seem to be a number of them > that are not in their catalog. > > 73 > Bill wa4lav > > > ___ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] PTS synthesizers
Hi Bill Welcome aboard, and good to see you again:-) Other than the breakdown at the rear of the catalog, and the various references against individual items, I've never seen another list as such, so If you do have other option numbers it might be easier if you could indicate what they are in case anyone is familiar with them. I still haven't had time yet to try your remote interface, which I suspect others here might also find very interesting, but I have completed the scans of my X10 and PTS250 manuals and will be making those available as soon as I've finished processing the images. Regards Nigel GM8PZR In a message dated 08/02/2012 22:11:29 GMT Standard Time, wlfuq...@uky.edu writes: I am new to the list and would like to know if anyone has a list of the suffixes (options) for PTS synthesizers. There seem to be a number of them that are not in their catalog. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
[time-nuts] PTS synthesizers
I am new to the list and would like to know if anyone has a list of the suffixes (options) for PTS synthesizers. There seem to be a number of them that are not in their catalog. 73 Bill wa4lav ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
