Re: [time-nuts] Arduino GPIB

2015-01-13 Thread Don Latham
Marvelous. Is there any reason not to adapt this to an Arduino with a network
shield?
Don
Joseph Gray
 I thought everyone here would find this of interest. I stumbled across it a
 few days ago on the 'net. It is a Prologix GPIB-USB compatible made with an
 Arduino Uno.

 http://egirland.blogspot.com/2014/03/arduino-uno-as-usb-to-gpib-controller.html

 Like on his web site, I just took a cheap GPIB cable, cut off about 12
 inches and shoved the wires into the socket holes on an Uno. I uploaded his
 program and did some minor testing so far. BTW, it didn't work the first
 time due to poor contact. I shoved some pin headers in, after the wires and
 now it works fine.

 John's Prologix config program works just fine with this cobbled together
 GPIB adapter. I attached it to my HP 3457A and then ran the demo program
 that comes with Ulrich's EZGPIB. It is logging data as I type this. I will
 do more testing with other instruments, as I have time.

 As mentioned on the web page linked above, a few commands are not yet
 implemented, although they appear to be little used commands (except
 perhaps the ++savecfg command). I think I have a way to implement the ++rst
 command using the watchdog timer. For ++savecfg, it shouldn't be too
 difficult to store things in the Arduino EEPROM.

 I have some cheap Arduino Nano's and PCB-mount GPIB connectors on order. I
 will be making a couple of these Proligix-compatible adapters with those
 parts, so that they aren't just wires shoved into a board. I'll have to
 find a small box to house things. I have also ordered some buffer chips to
 add to the design. Total cost should be under $20 for each adapter.

 The firmware uses a serial baud rate of 115200, which I assume is the same
 as a real Prologix. I'm going to try some higher baud rates to see how fast
 the Arduino can push bits without losing them. I understand that with the
 default 16 MHz clock, non-standard baud rates that are evenly divisible
 into the clock rate should work even better I'll report back.

 One question about the baud rate - are there any reasons not to change from
 115200? Since we are simply moving bits through a USB/Serial adapter, does
 any software really care what the baud rate is, as long as we don't drop
 any bits?

 Joe Gray
 W5JG
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Re: [time-nuts] Arduino GPIB

2015-01-13 Thread Jim Lux

On 1/12/15 1:00 PM, Tom Van Baak wrote:

Yes, you can get an Arduino R3 on eBay for $4 with shipping...

The GPIB connector will cost you more!

Didier KO4BB


A sandwich of two PCB is about the same thickness as the center plug of a GPIB 
male connector. So layout 2x12 pads to match the pins and you have a one-piece 
Arduino and GPIB connector board.



With a bit of masking tape and baling wire to hold it in place, and 
you're set..


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Re: [time-nuts] Arduino GPIB

2015-01-12 Thread Didier Juges
Yes, you can get an Arduino R3 on eBay for $4 with shipping...

The GPIB connector will cost you more!

Didier KO4BB


On January 12, 2015 8:45:12 AM CST, paul swed paulsw...@gmail.com wrote:
That certainly is a hack. But its something I have often thought about
and
never did. He is right its really a one instrument interface as it
doesn't
have the buffers to drive the load of multiple instruments.
But heavens that has to be a really cheap interface for a bit of
soldering
effort. My type of effort. :-)
Regards
Paul.
WB8TSL

On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 11:57 PM, Joseph Gray jg...@zianet.com wrote:

 I thought everyone here would find this of interest. I stumbled
across it a
 few days ago on the 'net. It is a Prologix GPIB-USB compatible made
with an
 Arduino Uno.



http://egirland.blogspot.com/2014/03/arduino-uno-as-usb-to-gpib-controller.html

 Like on his web site, I just took a cheap GPIB cable, cut off about
12
 inches and shoved the wires into the socket holes on an Uno. I
uploaded his
 program and did some minor testing so far. BTW, it didn't work the
first
 time due to poor contact. I shoved some pin headers in, after the
wires and
 now it works fine.

 John's Prologix config program works just fine with this cobbled
together
 GPIB adapter. I attached it to my HP 3457A and then ran the demo
program
 that comes with Ulrich's EZGPIB. It is logging data as I type this. I
will
 do more testing with other instruments, as I have time.

 As mentioned on the web page linked above, a few commands are not yet
 implemented, although they appear to be little used commands (except
 perhaps the ++savecfg command). I think I have a way to implement the
++rst
 command using the watchdog timer. For ++savecfg, it shouldn't be too
 difficult to store things in the Arduino EEPROM.

 I have some cheap Arduino Nano's and PCB-mount GPIB connectors on
order. I
 will be making a couple of these Proligix-compatible adapters with
those
 parts, so that they aren't just wires shoved into a board. I'll have
to
 find a small box to house things. I have also ordered some buffer
chips to
 add to the design. Total cost should be under $20 for each adapter.

 The firmware uses a serial baud rate of 115200, which I assume is the
same
 as a real Prologix. I'm going to try some higher baud rates to see
how fast
 the Arduino can push bits without losing them. I understand that with
the
 default 16 MHz clock, non-standard baud rates that are evenly
divisible
 into the clock rate should work even better I'll report back.

 One question about the baud rate - are there any reasons not to
change from
 115200? Since we are simply moving bits through a USB/Serial adapter,
does
 any software really care what the baud rate is, as long as we don't
drop
 any bits?

 Joe Gray
 W5JG
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Re: [time-nuts] Arduino GPIB

2015-01-12 Thread Tom Van Baak
 Yes, you can get an Arduino R3 on eBay for $4 with shipping...
 
 The GPIB connector will cost you more!
 
 Didier KO4BB

A sandwich of two PCB is about the same thickness as the center plug of a GPIB 
male connector. So layout 2x12 pads to match the pins and you have a one-piece 
Arduino and GPIB connector board.

/tvb

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Re: [time-nuts] Arduino GPIB

2015-01-12 Thread Chris Albertson
On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 6:45 AM, paul swed paulsw...@gmail.com wrote:
 its really a one instrument interface as it doesn't
 have the buffers to drive the load of multiple instruments.
 But heavens that has to be a really cheap interface for a bit of soldering
 effort. My type of effort. :-)

With Arduinos going for well under $10 You could afford to place one
Aruino INSIDE your test instrument.  Those old instruments usually
have some air space inside and a power supply suitable for an Arduino.
Now you have added a USB port to some 1980's vintage test gear.   If
the Arduino is inside you may not even need the GPIB connector.You
could do this to many older instruments then use USB to a USB hub,
then to a computer.

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Redondo Beach, California
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Re: [time-nuts] Arduino GPIB

2015-01-12 Thread paul swed
That certainly is a hack. But its something I have often thought about and
never did. He is right its really a one instrument interface as it doesn't
have the buffers to drive the load of multiple instruments.
But heavens that has to be a really cheap interface for a bit of soldering
effort. My type of effort. :-)
Regards
Paul.
WB8TSL

On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 11:57 PM, Joseph Gray jg...@zianet.com wrote:

 I thought everyone here would find this of interest. I stumbled across it a
 few days ago on the 'net. It is a Prologix GPIB-USB compatible made with an
 Arduino Uno.


 http://egirland.blogspot.com/2014/03/arduino-uno-as-usb-to-gpib-controller.html

 Like on his web site, I just took a cheap GPIB cable, cut off about 12
 inches and shoved the wires into the socket holes on an Uno. I uploaded his
 program and did some minor testing so far. BTW, it didn't work the first
 time due to poor contact. I shoved some pin headers in, after the wires and
 now it works fine.

 John's Prologix config program works just fine with this cobbled together
 GPIB adapter. I attached it to my HP 3457A and then ran the demo program
 that comes with Ulrich's EZGPIB. It is logging data as I type this. I will
 do more testing with other instruments, as I have time.

 As mentioned on the web page linked above, a few commands are not yet
 implemented, although they appear to be little used commands (except
 perhaps the ++savecfg command). I think I have a way to implement the ++rst
 command using the watchdog timer. For ++savecfg, it shouldn't be too
 difficult to store things in the Arduino EEPROM.

 I have some cheap Arduino Nano's and PCB-mount GPIB connectors on order. I
 will be making a couple of these Proligix-compatible adapters with those
 parts, so that they aren't just wires shoved into a board. I'll have to
 find a small box to house things. I have also ordered some buffer chips to
 add to the design. Total cost should be under $20 for each adapter.

 The firmware uses a serial baud rate of 115200, which I assume is the same
 as a real Prologix. I'm going to try some higher baud rates to see how fast
 the Arduino can push bits without losing them. I understand that with the
 default 16 MHz clock, non-standard baud rates that are evenly divisible
 into the clock rate should work even better I'll report back.

 One question about the baud rate - are there any reasons not to change from
 115200? Since we are simply moving bits through a USB/Serial adapter, does
 any software really care what the baud rate is, as long as we don't drop
 any bits?

 Joe Gray
 W5JG
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[time-nuts] Arduino GPIB

2015-01-11 Thread Joseph Gray
I thought everyone here would find this of interest. I stumbled across it a
few days ago on the 'net. It is a Prologix GPIB-USB compatible made with an
Arduino Uno.

http://egirland.blogspot.com/2014/03/arduino-uno-as-usb-to-gpib-controller.html

Like on his web site, I just took a cheap GPIB cable, cut off about 12
inches and shoved the wires into the socket holes on an Uno. I uploaded his
program and did some minor testing so far. BTW, it didn't work the first
time due to poor contact. I shoved some pin headers in, after the wires and
now it works fine.

John's Prologix config program works just fine with this cobbled together
GPIB adapter. I attached it to my HP 3457A and then ran the demo program
that comes with Ulrich's EZGPIB. It is logging data as I type this. I will
do more testing with other instruments, as I have time.

As mentioned on the web page linked above, a few commands are not yet
implemented, although they appear to be little used commands (except
perhaps the ++savecfg command). I think I have a way to implement the ++rst
command using the watchdog timer. For ++savecfg, it shouldn't be too
difficult to store things in the Arduino EEPROM.

I have some cheap Arduino Nano's and PCB-mount GPIB connectors on order. I
will be making a couple of these Proligix-compatible adapters with those
parts, so that they aren't just wires shoved into a board. I'll have to
find a small box to house things. I have also ordered some buffer chips to
add to the design. Total cost should be under $20 for each adapter.

The firmware uses a serial baud rate of 115200, which I assume is the same
as a real Prologix. I'm going to try some higher baud rates to see how fast
the Arduino can push bits without losing them. I understand that with the
default 16 MHz clock, non-standard baud rates that are evenly divisible
into the clock rate should work even better I'll report back.

One question about the baud rate - are there any reasons not to change from
115200? Since we are simply moving bits through a USB/Serial adapter, does
any software really care what the baud rate is, as long as we don't drop
any bits?

Joe Gray
W5JG
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