Re: [time-nuts] GPSDO - internal connections question

2011-09-23 Thread paul swed
Well one point to add to all this.
Some time-nuts are hams, some are not.
You comment "Used in hamshack" suggests you are a ham.
RF interference from your radios will be a problem.
It can modulate the EFC and upset things. Granted it will normal up after a
while.
So do consider a metal box and do use shielded cables. Ground only one end
of shield.
Might want to consider beads on the rs 232 lines etc.
Simply use good amateur radio design/construction techniques.
By the way I have a VE2ZAZ system works quite well and for Amateur use is
great.
Regards
Paul
WB8TSL

On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 5:25 AM, Attila Kinali  wrote:

> On Wed, 21 Sep 2011 18:36:43 -0500
> Chris Howard  wrote:
>
> > Thanks!
> > Would it do any good to have the control board, GPS, or anything else
> > within
> > its own shielded box?
>
> I'd put everything into one big metal box, but seperate the different
> submodules, probably shield them from each other.
>
> Please remember, that you are doing analog design on the EFC/OCXO side.
> This means that you have to have low noise levels where you handle these
> signals. This in turn means that you want to keep all digital electronics
> as far away from it as possible.
>
> Also think about a proper grounding scheme, as you connect the various
> submodules together, otherwise ground loops will introduce additional,
> hard to contain (and quite potent) noise.
>
>Attila Kinali
> --
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> realizing that very few of us are competent to design fonts, styles, or
> layout (14-year-old girls who dot their i's with hearts excepted, of
> course,
> the exception that nails down the lid on the coffin), we're going to have
> to
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Re: [time-nuts] GPSDO - internal connections question

2011-09-22 Thread Attila Kinali
On Wed, 21 Sep 2011 18:36:43 -0500
Chris Howard  wrote:

> Thanks!
> Would it do any good to have the control board, GPS, or anything else 
> within
> its own shielded box?

I'd put everything into one big metal box, but seperate the different
submodules, probably shield them from each other.

Please remember, that you are doing analog design on the EFC/OCXO side.
This means that you have to have low noise levels where you handle these
signals. This in turn means that you want to keep all digital electronics
as far away from it as possible.

Also think about a proper grounding scheme, as you connect the various
submodules together, otherwise ground loops will introduce additional,
hard to contain (and quite potent) noise.

Attila Kinali
-- 
WYSIWYG is not a solution, it is the problem, and until we get around to
realizing that very few of us are competent to design fonts, styles, or
layout (14-year-old girls who dot their i's with hearts excepted, of course,
the exception that nails down the lid on the coffin), we're going to have to
live with that crap.
-- Stephen J. Turnbull in a discussion about word processors

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Re: [time-nuts] GPSDO - internal connections question

2011-09-21 Thread Chris Howard

On 9/21/2011 4:08 PM, Bob Camp wrote:

Hi

Twisted pair is fine for the EFC. Shielded twisted pair (one end 
grounded on
the shield) might be slightly better). A lot depends on how many yards 
long

the EFC wire is :)

Bob



Thanks!
Would it do any good to have the control board, GPS, or anything else 
within

its own shielded box?

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Re: [time-nuts] GPSDO - internal connections question

2011-09-21 Thread Bob Camp
Hi

Twisted pair is fine for the EFC. Shielded twisted pair (one end grounded on
the shield) might be slightly better). A lot depends on how many yards long
the EFC wire is :)

Bob

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Subject: [time-nuts] GPSDO - internal connections question


I'm building a GPSDO using the VE2ZAZ board, an HP 10811 oscillator and 
a Trimble Resolution T GPS.

My goal is a simple and cheap 10 Mhz standard for my little home 
electronics bench and ham shack.

I have my power supply parts finally gathered up, now I have these 
boards that need interconnecting.

I'm thinking I need to use coax cable for anything that has 10 Mhz on 
it.  Do I need to shield
the control voltage going to the oscillator


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[time-nuts] GPSDO - internal connections question

2011-09-21 Thread Chris Howard


I'm building a GPSDO using the VE2ZAZ board, an HP 10811 oscillator and 
a Trimble Resolution T GPS.


My goal is a simple and cheap 10 Mhz standard for my little home 
electronics bench and ham shack.


I have my power supply parts finally gathered up, now I have these 
boards that need interconnecting.


I'm thinking I need to use coax cable for anything that has 10 Mhz on 
it.  Do I need to shield

the control voltage going to the oscillator


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