[time-nuts] Greek clocks - planets rather than seconds

2015-05-11 Thread Hal Murray
Michael Wright talking about the Antikythera
  http://www.the-eg.com/videos/michael-wright-antikythera-resurrector-eg8

The video is 1/2 hour.  I thought it was good.  He's a colorful speaker.

Anybody know how they made gears back then?  Or machinery in general?  What 
did they use for a file?  How did they make files?


The Computer History Museum is having an event:

May 13, 2015  10:30 AM
Secrets of the Antikythera Mechanism
  http://www.computerhistory.org/events/upcoming/

 In 1900, sponge divers off the coast of the tiny Greek island of Antikythera 
made an astonishing discovery: the wreck of an ancient Roman ship lay 200 
feet beneath the water, its dazzling cargo spread out over the ocean floor. 
Among the life-size statues and amphorae was an encrusted piece of metal, 
which after nearly a century of investigation, is finally revealing its 
secrets


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Re: [time-nuts] Greek clocks - planets rather than seconds

2015-05-11 Thread Peter Torry

Hal,

Gear wheels have been cut by hand for many a century.  A simple dividing 
head made from wood and fixed to a mandrel would index a blank wheel and 
allow the teeth to be cut by a saw and then rounded up to a cycloidal 
shape with a file. As time progressed shaped files were used and later 
simple fly cutters with the cycloidal shape.


Files were made by hand in a similar way as that are made today. Once 
the correct material was chosen, originally iron and later steel, a 
blank was shaped and the teeth cut using a chisel. The file would then 
be hardened by heating and quenching followed by straightening and 
warping before it set.  As with most tasks machines either speed up the 
process or take the skill out of it. As an aside only use new files on 
brass until they have the edge taken off them then they can be used on 
harder materials.


There is somewhat more to the above but it would take up too much bandwidth.

Regards

Peter



On 11/05/2015 00:32, Hal Murray wrote:

Michael Wright talking about the Antikythera
   http://www.the-eg.com/videos/michael-wright-antikythera-resurrector-eg8

The video is 1/2 hour.  I thought it was good.  He's a colorful speaker.

Anybody know how they made gears back then?  Or machinery in general?  What
did they use for a file?  How did they make files?


The Computer History Museum is having an event:

May 13, 2015  10:30 AM
Secrets of the Antikythera Mechanism
   http://www.computerhistory.org/events/upcoming/

  In 1900, sponge divers off the coast of the tiny Greek island of Antikythera
made an astonishing discovery: the wreck of an ancient Roman ship lay 200
feet beneath the water, its dazzling cargo spread out over the ocean floor.
Among the life-size statues and amphorae was an encrusted piece of metal,
which after nearly a century of investigation, is finally revealing its
secrets




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Re: [time-nuts] Greek clocks - planets rather than seconds

2015-05-11 Thread Tom Harris
Good question. I intrigued me so I researched it. To make gears the Greek
craftsmen made a circular blank, then marked it out for the correct number
of teeth, probably using dividers, then filed the teeth with a triangular
needle file Analysis of the Antikythera Mechanism shows the sort of
irregularities that this method would give, Michael Wright made gears this
way to prove it. The teeth have a 60 degree angle and are triangular in
profile, which is not very efficient, but good enough for a clock. I made a
pair of gears this way, it took half a day but it worked.

Thanks for the link.


Tom Harris celephi...@gmail.com

On 11 May 2015 at 10:32, Hal Murray hmur...@megapathdsl.net wrote:

 Michael Wright talking about the Antikythera
   http://www.the-eg.com/videos/michael-wright-antikythera-resurrector-eg8

 The video is 1/2 hour.  I thought it was good.  He's a colorful speaker.

 Anybody know how they made gears back then?  Or machinery in general?  What
 did they use for a file?  How did they make files?


 The Computer History Museum is having an event:

 May 13, 2015  10:30 AM
 Secrets of the Antikythera Mechanism
   http://www.computerhistory.org/events/upcoming/

  In 1900, sponge divers off the coast of the tiny Greek island of
 Antikythera
 made an astonishing discovery: the wreck of an ancient Roman ship lay 200
 feet beneath the water, its dazzling cargo spread out over the ocean floor.
 Among the life-size statues and amphorae was an encrusted piece of metal,
 which after nearly a century of investigation, is finally revealing its
 secrets


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