Re: [time-nuts] HP 3048 question: how to export graphs?

2017-10-16 Thread Stephen Tompsett
How about PrintCapture with a Prologix interface?


On 15/10/2017 20:03, Richard (Rick) Karlquist wrote:
> I am running an HP 3048 under HTBasic and I
> have a nice looking phase noise graph on the
> screen.  I want to export the graph to the
> world outside of RMB.  Using the "Hard Copy" or "Plot"
> function keys does nothing, probably because
> I don't have an HP-IB printer or plotter
> connected.  (I actually have the extremely
> rare HP-IB printer on hand, but I don't want a paper
> copy, I want a .bmp or something like that).
>
> I see that HTBasic has a Win-Print driver,
> so I loaded that FWIW.  I don't see how to
> make the RMB software connect to it.  The
> HTBasic manual discusses how to print text
> using this driver, but I want to print (or
> plot) graphics.
>
> The HTBasic site also shows a Microsoft
> supplied HPGL filter that sounds like it
> might emulate a pen plotter.  The HTBasic
> manual says that you can write "PLOTTER IS
> ".  Maybe that will work.  I see
> in the existing RMB code the program calls
> line 25148 PLOTTER IS CRT and elsewhere
> PLOTTER IS HPGL.  The 3048 help file says
> holding down the shift key while pushing
> the Plot button redirects to the HPGL plotter.
> Can I simply replace "HPGL" with "
> or something?
>
> Then there are the Result (RESU) files.  Does
> anyone know how to translate them into
> anything readable?
>
> As a last resort, I am using the keyboard's
> "Print Screen" key to copy the screen to the
> Windows 7 clipboard.  It is then available
> to any Windows program.  That's clumsy but
> better than nothing.
>
> As a hardware engineer, even this simple software
> stuff is above my pay grade.  Any help would
> be appreciated.
>
> When I first got the 3048, I tried PN3048.
> I realize it can effortlessly export graphs.
> According to the author, it does not support
> various features that I need (and apparently
> never will).  So I am stuck in the RMB world.
>
> Rick N6RK
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Re: [time-nuts] HP 3048 question: how to export graphs?

2017-10-15 Thread DaveH
There is also a utility called Cropper that works really well with a lot of
options:

https://github.com/brhinescot/Cropper

Dave


 

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> Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2017 13:29
> To: time-nuts@febo.com
> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] HP 3048 question: how to export graphs?
> 
> I can't speak to the 3048 but for screen captures I used to 
> use the snipping 
> tool, but have recently started using Irfanview.  You can run 
> it in the 
> background and with a single command (I use Ctrl+F11) can 
> copy the full screen 
> or window and save it instantly in a format and location of 
> your choice or to 
> the clipboard.
> 
> Wes  N7WS
> 
> 
> On 10/15/2017 12:46 PM, John Miles wrote:
> > I don't believe there's a way to save images from within 
> HTBasic, although there certainly should be.  I use the 
> "Snipping Tool" accessory in Windows 7 for that sort of 
> thing.  It probably exists in all versions of WIndows 
> including 10, but who knows what they call it these days.
> >
> >   If you create a shortcut key for the tool, it's easy to 
> invoke whenever needed.   Hit ctrl-shift-C (in my case), wait 
> for the tool to come up, and drag a box around the graph or 
> other content to be cropped and saved.  The image can then be 
> saved as a .PNG, .GIF, or .JPG, or pasted directly into a document.
> >
> > The RESU files saved by 3048A.BAS are similar to the .res 
> files saved by PN3048, and PN3048 can load them directly if 
> you select 'All files' in the file-open dialog.   You can 
> then save the graph or the entire window as a .PNG file.  
> TimeLab ( http://www.miles.io/timelab/beta.htm ) can also 
> import them (File->Import .RES or .PNP noise data) and save 
> images (File->Save image or .TIM file or File->Copy image to 
> clipboard).  But if all you want is a .PNG, the snipping tool 
> is much easier than dealing with any of this stuff.
> >
> > -- john, KE5FX
> >
> 
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Re: [time-nuts] HP 3048 question: how to export graphs?

2017-10-15 Thread Wes
I can't speak to the 3048 but for screen captures I used to use the snipping 
tool, but have recently started using Irfanview.  You can run it in the 
background and with a single command (I use Ctrl+F11) can copy the full screen 
or window and save it instantly in a format and location of your choice or to 
the clipboard.


Wes  N7WS


On 10/15/2017 12:46 PM, John Miles wrote:

I don't believe there's a way to save images from within HTBasic, although there 
certainly should be.  I use the "Snipping Tool" accessory in Windows 7 for that 
sort of thing.  It probably exists in all versions of WIndows including 10, but who knows 
what they call it these days.

  If you create a shortcut key for the tool, it's easy to invoke whenever 
needed.   Hit ctrl-shift-C (in my case), wait for the tool to come up, and drag 
a box around the graph or other content to be cropped and saved.  The image can 
then be saved as a .PNG, .GIF, or .JPG, or pasted directly into a document.

The RESU files saved by 3048A.BAS are similar to the .res files saved by PN3048, and 
PN3048 can load them directly if you select 'All files' in the file-open dialog.   You 
can then save the graph or the entire window as a .PNG file.  TimeLab ( 
http://www.miles.io/timelab/beta.htm ) can also import them (File->Import .RES or 
.PNP noise data) and save images (File->Save image or .TIM file or File->Copy 
image to clipboard).  But if all you want is a .PNG, the snipping tool is much easier 
than dealing with any of this stuff.

-- john, KE5FX



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Re: [time-nuts] HP 3048 question: how to export graphs?

2017-10-15 Thread John Miles
I don't believe there's a way to save images from within HTBasic, although 
there certainly should be.  I use the "Snipping Tool" accessory in Windows 7 
for that sort of thing.  It probably exists in all versions of WIndows 
including 10, but who knows what they call it these days.  

 If you create a shortcut key for the tool, it's easy to invoke whenever 
needed.   Hit ctrl-shift-C (in my case), wait for the tool to come up, and drag 
a box around the graph or other content to be cropped and saved.  The image can 
then be saved as a .PNG, .GIF, or .JPG, or pasted directly into a document.

The RESU files saved by 3048A.BAS are similar to the .res files saved by 
PN3048, and PN3048 can load them directly if you select 'All files' in the 
file-open dialog.   You can then save the graph or the entire window as a .PNG 
file.  TimeLab ( http://www.miles.io/timelab/beta.htm ) can also import them 
(File->Import .RES or .PNP noise data) and save images (File->Save image or 
.TIM file or File->Copy image to clipboard).  But if all you want is a .PNG, 
the snipping tool is much easier than dealing with any of this stuff.

-- john, KE5FX

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> From: time-nuts [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of
> Richard (Rick) Karlquist
> Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2017 12:03 PM
> To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement
> Subject: [time-nuts] HP 3048 question: how to export graphs?
> 
> I am running an HP 3048 under HTBasic and I
> have a nice looking phase noise graph on the
> screen.  I want to export the graph to the
> world outside of RMB...

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[time-nuts] HP 3048 question: how to export graphs?

2017-10-15 Thread Richard (Rick) Karlquist

I am running an HP 3048 under HTBasic and I
have a nice looking phase noise graph on the
screen.  I want to export the graph to the
world outside of RMB.  Using the "Hard Copy" or "Plot"
function keys does nothing, probably because
I don't have an HP-IB printer or plotter
connected.  (I actually have the extremely
rare HP-IB printer on hand, but I don't want a paper
copy, I want a .bmp or something like that).

I see that HTBasic has a Win-Print driver,
so I loaded that FWIW.  I don't see how to
make the RMB software connect to it.  The
HTBasic manual discusses how to print text
using this driver, but I want to print (or
plot) graphics.

The HTBasic site also shows a Microsoft
supplied HPGL filter that sounds like it
might emulate a pen plotter.  The HTBasic
manual says that you can write "PLOTTER IS
".  Maybe that will work.  I see
in the existing RMB code the program calls
line 25148 PLOTTER IS CRT and elsewhere
PLOTTER IS HPGL.  The 3048 help file says
holding down the shift key while pushing
the Plot button redirects to the HPGL plotter.
Can I simply replace "HPGL" with "
or something?

Then there are the Result (RESU) files.  Does
anyone know how to translate them into
anything readable?

As a last resort, I am using the keyboard's
"Print Screen" key to copy the screen to the
Windows 7 clipboard.  It is then available
to any Windows program.  That's clumsy but
better than nothing.

As a hardware engineer, even this simple software
stuff is above my pay grade.  Any help would
be appreciated.

When I first got the 3048, I tried PN3048.
I realize it can effortlessly export graphs.
According to the author, it does not support
various features that I need (and apparently
never will).  So I am stuck in the RMB world.

Rick N6RK
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