[time-nuts] HP 5370B Leds pulsing slowly, buttons selecting normally, PB LEDS scannning and appears to be reading o/k
I went to use my 5370B todayt and noticed the LEDS on the display are slowly sort of pulsing bright one after another. Also all the push button LEDS are going on and off one by one. The strangest thing is that it appears to be working o/k via HPIB. I don't have extender boards but I do have a signature analyser. Could it be something silly like one of the PSU regulator has gone kaput? Has anyone seen this issue before? -marki ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] HP 5370B Leds pulsing slowly, buttons selecting normally, PB LEDS scannning and appears to be reading o/k
Checked the PSU voltages on the PSU card next to the 10811. The -5.2 is reading -4.2. Took a look with the scope and instead of a nice flat DC I see a 4V Peak to Peak spike @ 100Hz. Trying to track down a service manual. Any ideas on this one guys, if the Pass tranny was shorted, it would be a lot more than 4.2V unless the overvoltage Zener is able to sink all that current... -marki -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Mark C. Stephens Sent: Saturday, 6 July 2013 8:18 PM To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: [time-nuts] HP 5370B Leds pulsing slowly, buttons selecting normally, PB LEDS scannning and appears to be reading o/k I went to use my 5370B todayt and noticed the LEDS on the display are slowly sort of pulsing bright one after another. Also all the push button LEDS are going on and off one by one. The strangest thing is that it appears to be working o/k via HPIB. I don't have extender boards but I do have a signature analyser. Could it be something silly like one of the PSU regulator has gone kaput? Has anyone seen this issue before? -marki ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] HP 5370B Leds pulsing slowly, buttons selecting normally, PB LEDS scannning and appears to be reading o/k
C3 (17000uf @ 10v) is open circuit. Where am I going to get one of those from. I need some advice here, Should I just use modern low ESR solder lug type soldered directly onto the board? Or Should I try and locate a screw terminal type Capacitor? Obviously, I want to do the best for this timer as I rely on it tremendously. -marki -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Mark C. Stephens Sent: Saturday, 6 July 2013 8:47 PM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] HP 5370B Leds pulsing slowly, buttons selecting normally, PB LEDS scannning and appears to be reading o/k Checked the PSU voltages on the PSU card next to the 10811. The -5.2 is reading -4.2. Took a look with the scope and instead of a nice flat DC I see a 4V Peak to Peak spike @ 100Hz. Trying to track down a service manual. Any ideas on this one guys, if the Pass tranny was shorted, it would be a lot more than 4.2V unless the overvoltage Zener is able to sink all that current... -marki -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Mark C. Stephens Sent: Saturday, 6 July 2013 8:18 PM To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: [time-nuts] HP 5370B Leds pulsing slowly, buttons selecting normally, PB LEDS scannning and appears to be reading o/k I went to use my 5370B todayt and noticed the LEDS on the display are slowly sort of pulsing bright one after another. Also all the push button LEDS are going on and off one by one. The strangest thing is that it appears to be working o/k via HPIB. I don't have extender boards but I do have a signature analyser. Could it be something silly like one of the PSU regulator has gone kaput? Has anyone seen this issue before? -marki ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] HP 5370B Leds pulsing slowly, buttons selecting normally, PB LEDS scannning and appears to be reading o/k
Electrolytic capacitors: check them on the PSU, usually they are the first to look for. On Sat, Jul 6, 2013 at 12:46 PM, Mark C. Stephens ma...@non-stop.com.au wrote: Checked the PSU voltages on the PSU card next to the 10811. The -5.2 is reading -4.2. Took a look with the scope and instead of a nice flat DC I see a 4V Peak to Peak spike @ 100Hz. Trying to track down a service manual. Any ideas on this one guys, if the Pass tranny was shorted, it would be a lot more than 4.2V unless the overvoltage Zener is able to sink all that current... -marki -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Mark C. Stephens Sent: Saturday, 6 July 2013 8:18 PM To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: [time-nuts] HP 5370B Leds pulsing slowly, buttons selecting normally, PB LEDS scannning and appears to be reading o/k I went to use my 5370B todayt and noticed the LEDS on the display are slowly sort of pulsing bright one after another. Also all the push button LEDS are going on and off one by one. The strangest thing is that it appears to be working o/k via HPIB. I don't have extender boards but I do have a signature analyser. Could it be something silly like one of the PSU regulator has gone kaput? Has anyone seen this issue before? -marki ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] HP 5370B Leds pulsing slowly, buttons selecting normally, PB LEDS scannning and appears to be reading o/k
sounds quite typical for a dried out electrolytic cap. Look for the unregulated -10V that goes into the regulator circuit. Most likely C3 on the power supply motherboard is dead. Adrian Mark C. Stephens schrieb: Checked the PSU voltages on the PSU card next to the 10811. The -5.2 is reading -4.2. Took a look with the scope and instead of a nice flat DC I see a 4V Peak to Peak spike @ 100Hz. Trying to track down a service manual. Any ideas on this one guys, if the Pass tranny was shorted, it would be a lot more than 4.2V unless the overvoltage Zener is able to sink all that current... -marki -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Mark C. Stephens Sent: Saturday, 6 July 2013 8:18 PM To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: [time-nuts] HP 5370B Leds pulsing slowly, buttons selecting normally, PB LEDS scannning and appears to be reading o/k I went to use my 5370B todayt and noticed the LEDS on the display are slowly sort of pulsing bright one after another. Also all the push button LEDS are going on and off one by one. The strangest thing is that it appears to be working o/k via HPIB. I don't have extender boards but I do have a signature analyser. Could it be something silly like one of the PSU regulator has gone kaput? Has anyone seen this issue before? -marki ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] HP 5370B Leds pulsing slowly, buttons selecting normally, PB LEDS scannning and appears to be reading o/k
Correct, C3 (17000uf @ 10v) is measuring 39uf :) I have a 29000@10V, same dimensions, do you think the rectifiers can hack that big fella? 1uf is quite a bit more. Out of interest, this cap was replaced before, it is not a blue Sprague or Mallory but a grey Phillips Cap. -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Sent: Saturday, 6 July 2013 9:19 PM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] HP 5370B Leds pulsing slowly, buttons selecting normally, PB LEDS scannning and appears to be reading o/k sounds quite typical for a dried out electrolytic cap. Look for the unregulated -10V that goes into the regulator circuit. Most likely C3 on the power supply motherboard is dead. Adrian Mark C. Stephens schrieb: Checked the PSU voltages on the PSU card next to the 10811. The -5.2 is reading -4.2. Took a look with the scope and instead of a nice flat DC I see a 4V Peak to Peak spike @ 100Hz. Trying to track down a service manual. Any ideas on this one guys, if the Pass tranny was shorted, it would be a lot more than 4.2V unless the overvoltage Zener is able to sink all that current... -marki -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Mark C. Stephens Sent: Saturday, 6 July 2013 8:18 PM To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: [time-nuts] HP 5370B Leds pulsing slowly, buttons selecting normally, PB LEDS scannning and appears to be reading o/k I went to use my 5370B todayt and noticed the LEDS on the display are slowly sort of pulsing bright one after another. Also all the push button LEDS are going on and off one by one. The strangest thing is that it appears to be working o/k via HPIB. I don't have extender boards but I do have a signature analyser. Could it be something silly like one of the PSU regulator has gone kaput? Has anyone seen this issue before? -marki ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] HP 5370B Leds pulsing slowly, buttons selecting normally, PB LEDS scannning and appears to be reading o/k
Mark C. Stephens wrote: Correct, C3 (17000uf @ 10v) is measuring 39uf :) I have a 29000@10V, same dimensions, do you think the rectifiers can hack that big fella? Without a blush! -Chuck Harris 1uf is quite a bit more. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] HP 5370B Leds pulsing slowly, buttons selecting normally, PB LEDS scannning and appears to be reading o/k
Mark C. Stephens wrote: Correct, C3 (17000uf @ 10v) is measuring 39uf :) I have a 29000@10V, same dimensions, do you think the rectifiers can hack that big fella? Without a blush! Except for the 10V part. (Which I missed on the first post) You have to use a capacitor that is at least 2x the operating voltage, and is also greater than any peak voltages that could occur in the boundary cases, such as the power line being at the scope's rated maximum power line voltage. -Chuck Harris 1uf is quite a bit more. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] HP 5370B Leds pulsing slowly, buttons selecting normally, PB LEDS scannning and appears to be reading o/k
Most of the Caps I have of that size are around ~1/2 the capacitance but twice the voltage. I'll go check the dumpster (...err garage) for some old gear that's due to be scrapped. I am going hate myself if I have to part mule a probably working 8568A/B for a some sort of PSU cap. Yeah, I see your point about the cap voltage, that hadn't occurred in my electrolytic candidates to me for some reason! I'll take that one on-board definitely :) -marki -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Chuck Harris Sent: Saturday, 6 July 2013 11:05 PM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] HP 5370B Leds pulsing slowly, buttons selecting normally, PB LEDS scannning and appears to be reading o/k Mark C. Stephens wrote: Correct, C3 (17000uf @ 10v) is measuring 39uf :) I have a 29000@10V, same dimensions, do you think the rectifiers can hack that big fella? Without a blush! Except for the 10V part. (Which I missed on the first post) You have to use a capacitor that is at least 2x the operating voltage, and is also greater than any peak voltages that could occur in the boundary cases, such as the power line being at the scope's rated maximum power line voltage. -Chuck Harris 1uf is quite a bit more. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] HP 5370B Leds pulsing slowly, buttons selecting normally, PB LEDS scannning and appears to be reading o/k
What's the specified tolerance on the 17,000 uF? You probably have quite a range to work within. If you are lucky, they specified something like +80/-20% and the 29,000 uF might be OK (measure it). On Sat, Jul 6, 2013 at 4:18 AM, Mark C. Stephens ma...@non-stop.com.auwrote: C3 (17000uf @ 10v) is open circuit. Where am I going to get one of those from. I need some advice here, Should I just use modern low ESR solder lug type soldered directly onto the board? Or Should I try and locate a screw terminal type Capacitor? Obviously, I want to do the best for this timer as I rely on it tremendously. -marki -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Mark C. Stephens Sent: Saturday, 6 July 2013 8:47 PM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] HP 5370B Leds pulsing slowly, buttons selecting normally, PB LEDS scannning and appears to be reading o/k Checked the PSU voltages on the PSU card next to the 10811. The -5.2 is reading -4.2. Took a look with the scope and instead of a nice flat DC I see a 4V Peak to Peak spike @ 100Hz. Trying to track down a service manual. Any ideas on this one guys, if the Pass tranny was shorted, it would be a lot more than 4.2V unless the overvoltage Zener is able to sink all that current... -marki -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Mark C. Stephens Sent: Saturday, 6 July 2013 8:18 PM To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: [time-nuts] HP 5370B Leds pulsing slowly, buttons selecting normally, PB LEDS scannning and appears to be reading o/k I went to use my 5370B todayt and noticed the LEDS on the display are slowly sort of pulsing bright one after another. Also all the push button LEDS are going on and off one by one. The strangest thing is that it appears to be working o/k via HPIB. I don't have extender boards but I do have a signature analyser. Could it be something silly like one of the PSU regulator has gone kaput? Has anyone seen this issue before? -marki ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] HP 5370B Leds pulsing slowly, buttons selecting normally, PB LEDS scannning and appears to be reading o/k
Hopefully HP Voltage Derated the Cap as well so it can handle our 250V here.. We are across the road from the main transformer for the area so the voltage is highest at our place, I checked the meter box this morning - it is 255-258V on all 3 phases, no wonder I am having problems. -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Orin Eman Sent: Sunday, 7 July 2013 2:12 AM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] HP 5370B Leds pulsing slowly, buttons selecting normally, PB LEDS scannning and appears to be reading o/k What's the specified tolerance on the 17,000 uF? You probably have quite a range to work within. If you are lucky, they specified something like +80/-20% and the 29,000 uF might be OK (measure it). On Sat, Jul 6, 2013 at 4:18 AM, Mark C. Stephens ma...@non-stop.com.auwrote: C3 (17000uf @ 10v) is open circuit. Where am I going to get one of those from. I need some advice here, Should I just use modern low ESR solder lug type soldered directly onto the board? Or Should I try and locate a screw terminal type Capacitor? Obviously, I want to do the best for this timer as I rely on it tremendously. -marki -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Mark C. Stephens Sent: Saturday, 6 July 2013 8:47 PM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] HP 5370B Leds pulsing slowly, buttons selecting normally, PB LEDS scannning and appears to be reading o/k Checked the PSU voltages on the PSU card next to the 10811. The -5.2 is reading -4.2. Took a look with the scope and instead of a nice flat DC I see a 4V Peak to Peak spike @ 100Hz. Trying to track down a service manual. Any ideas on this one guys, if the Pass tranny was shorted, it would be a lot more than 4.2V unless the overvoltage Zener is able to sink all that current... -marki -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Mark C. Stephens Sent: Saturday, 6 July 2013 8:18 PM To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: [time-nuts] HP 5370B Leds pulsing slowly, buttons selecting normally, PB LEDS scannning and appears to be reading o/k I went to use my 5370B todayt and noticed the LEDS on the display are slowly sort of pulsing bright one after another. Also all the push button LEDS are going on and off one by one. The strangest thing is that it appears to be working o/k via HPIB. I don't have extender boards but I do have a signature analyser. Could it be something silly like one of the PSU regulator has gone kaput? Has anyone seen this issue before? -marki ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] HP 5370B Leds pulsing slowly, buttons selecting normally, PB LEDS scannning and appears to be reading o/k
On 7/6/13 2:46 PM, Mark C. Stephens wrote: Hopefully HP Voltage Derated the Cap as well so it can handle our 250V here.. We are across the road from the main transformer for the area so the voltage is highest at our place, I checked the meter box this morning - it is 255-258V on all 3 phases, no wonder I am having problems. Is that nominally 240 phase to neutral/ 415 phase to phase. typically, the utility is allowed 10% tolerance.. I see that wikipedia says AS60038 calls out 230V +10% -6% so that's 253 to 216 One thing to be wary of is that the utility supplies voltages at, say, 120V or 240V (in the US), but utilization equipment (motors, for instance) is labeled as 115V or 230V. This accounts for the 2% voltage drop in the branch circuit, among other things. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] HP 5370B Leds pulsing slowly, buttons selecting normally, PB LEDS scannning and appears to be reading o/k
I just checked the HP manual, most of the linear equipment is specified: 240V +5/-10% So, I am a little over at 258V here ): I am going to unplug everything until I can get this sorted out. Can't afford to lose anything more, in both time and spares obtainability. marki -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lux Sent: Sunday, 7 July 2013 8:01 AM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] HP 5370B Leds pulsing slowly, buttons selecting normally, PB LEDS scannning and appears to be reading o/k On 7/6/13 2:46 PM, Mark C. Stephens wrote: Hopefully HP Voltage Derated the Cap as well so it can handle our 250V here.. We are across the road from the main transformer for the area so the voltage is highest at our place, I checked the meter box this morning - it is 255-258V on all 3 phases, no wonder I am having problems. Is that nominally 240 phase to neutral/ 415 phase to phase. typically, the utility is allowed 10% tolerance.. I see that wikipedia says AS60038 calls out 230V +10% -6% so that's 253 to 216 One thing to be wary of is that the utility supplies voltages at, say, 120V or 240V (in the US), but utilization equipment (motors, for instance) is labeled as 115V or 230V. This accounts for the 2% voltage drop in the branch circuit, among other things. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] HP 5370B Leds pulsing slowly, buttons selecting normally, PB LEDS scannning and appears to be reading o/k
Check with your power company. They may be able to switch taps on the transformer to reduce the voltage. I don't know what the situation is for you, but in some places power companies can be forced to repair/replace equipment that they fry due to faults in their system. Ed On 7/6/2013 5:14 PM, Mark C. Stephens wrote: I just checked the HP manual, most of the linear equipment is specified: 240V +5/-10% So, I am a little over at 258V here ): I am going to unplug everything until I can get this sorted out. Can't afford to lose anything more, in both time and spares obtainability. marki -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lux Sent: Sunday, 7 July 2013 8:01 AM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] HP 5370B Leds pulsing slowly, buttons selecting normally, PB LEDS scannning and appears to be reading o/k On 7/6/13 2:46 PM, Mark C. Stephens wrote: Hopefully HP Voltage Derated the Cap as well so it can handle our 250V here.. We are across the road from the main transformer for the area so the voltage is highest at our place, I checked the meter box this morning - it is 255-258V on all 3 phases, no wonder I am having problems. Is that nominally 240 phase to neutral/ 415 phase to phase. typically, the utility is allowed 10% tolerance.. I see that wikipedia says AS60038 calls out 230V +10% -6% so that's 253 to 216 One thing to be wary of is that the utility supplies voltages at, say, 120V or 240V (in the US), but utilization equipment (motors, for instance) is labeled as 115V or 230V. This accounts for the 2% voltage drop in the branch circuit, among other things. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] HP 5370B Leds pulsing slowly, buttons selecting normally, PB LEDS scannning and appears to be reading o/k
Yes that is true in Australia, but one has to prove that it is the utility companies fault. The main problem is we are right across the street for the main transformer for the area. So, the start of the 240V run for the whole neighbourhood basically. Our switchbox meter has a voltage function that I checked this morning, the voltage is ~255-258V on all 3 phases. I will give a call to power Co stating this is not no, but I don't like my chances. Boo.. -marki -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Ed Palmer Sent: Sunday, 7 July 2013 9:29 AM To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] HP 5370B Leds pulsing slowly, buttons selecting normally, PB LEDS scannning and appears to be reading o/k Check with your power company. They may be able to switch taps on the transformer to reduce the voltage. I don't know what the situation is for you, but in some places power companies can be forced to repair/replace equipment that they fry due to faults in their system. Ed On 7/6/2013 5:14 PM, Mark C. Stephens wrote: I just checked the HP manual, most of the linear equipment is specified: 240V +5/-10% So, I am a little over at 258V here ): I am going to unplug everything until I can get this sorted out. Can't afford to lose anything more, in both time and spares obtainability. marki -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lux Sent: Sunday, 7 July 2013 8:01 AM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] HP 5370B Leds pulsing slowly, buttons selecting normally, PB LEDS scannning and appears to be reading o/k On 7/6/13 2:46 PM, Mark C. Stephens wrote: Hopefully HP Voltage Derated the Cap as well so it can handle our 250V here.. We are across the road from the main transformer for the area so the voltage is highest at our place, I checked the meter box this morning - it is 255-258V on all 3 phases, no wonder I am having problems. Is that nominally 240 phase to neutral/ 415 phase to phase. typically, the utility is allowed 10% tolerance.. I see that wikipedia says AS60038 calls out 230V +10% -6% so that's 253 to 216 One thing to be wary of is that the utility supplies voltages at, say, 120V or 240V (in the US), but utilization equipment (motors, for instance) is labeled as 115V or 230V. This accounts for the 2% voltage drop in the branch circuit, among other things. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
