Re: [time-nuts] Lady Heather's Window, font size
I have found it difficult to find out from within a Windows program how big or small a particular font is rendered. Windows has a function called TextWidth (and TextHeight) that does not work correctly for all fonts. It seems to be video card driver dependant too, as the same fonts look different (and have different size) on different video cards. I wrote a small VB program that you can use to find out if windows is lying for a particular font. It's at http://www.ko4bb.com/VB_Projects/TextWidth/TextWidth.exe This programs sets the size of the colored background to what windows says the font takes. You can see some fonts work well, and some don't. I have found that most of the time, Windows returns a size greater than is actually used. That can be useful if you use these functions by letting you choose fonts that work. Didier -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Magnus Danielson Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 8:46 AM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Lady Heather's Window Magnus Danielson skrev: John Miles skrev: Here's my quick-and-dirty Windows port (including the modified source code): http://www.ke5fx.com/tbolt/setup.exe (600K) Tested on XP, should be fine on Win9x/2K, no telling with Vista. As with Mark's original program, the default is COM1; you'll need to modify your Windows shortcut to run heather /x (without the quotes) for COMx. It runs fine functionally, however, the font is minimalistic and I can't read anything written. But the graphs seems to work etc. Also, I can't change the display at run-time, which would be nice. /vl does not improve the size of fonts, just the overall windown size. It is notable that it maps to the wrong font as the right and lower part of the text-area is left empty, but the everything seems to work, just below the limit to unreadable. I lack the Windows magic wand capability... Cheers, Magnus ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Lady Heather's Window, font size
Hi Didier: I've been working with my PC display adapter and it's related software. In WIN XP when I right click the desktop \ properties \ settings \advanced \ general there is an option for DPI with 96 the default, 120 the option I choose for larger text in general applications, or a custom setting. Also regarding fonts. There are fixed fonts, like courier, and True Type variable fonts that scale, like Times New Roman. Have Fun, Brooke Clarke http://www.prc68.com Didier wrote: I have found it difficult to find out from within a Windows program how big or small a particular font is rendered. Windows has a function called TextWidth (and TextHeight) that does not work correctly for all fonts. It seems to be video card driver dependant too, as the same fonts look different (and have different size) on different video cards. I wrote a small VB program that you can use to find out if windows is lying for a particular font. It's at http://www.ko4bb.com/VB_Projects/TextWidth/TextWidth.exe This programs sets the size of the colored background to what windows says the font takes. You can see some fonts work well, and some don't. I have found that most of the time, Windows returns a size greater than is actually used. That can be useful if you use these functions by letting you choose fonts that work. Didier -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Magnus Danielson Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 8:46 AM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Lady Heather's Window Magnus Danielson skrev: John Miles skrev: Here's my quick-and-dirty Windows port (including the modified source code): http://www.ke5fx.com/tbolt/setup.exe (600K) Tested on XP, should be fine on Win9x/2K, no telling with Vista. As with Mark's original program, the default is COM1; you'll need to modify your Windows shortcut to run heather /x (without the quotes) for COMx. It runs fine functionally, however, the font is minimalistic and I can't read anything written. But the graphs seems to work etc. Also, I can't change the display at run-time, which would be nice. /vl does not improve the size of fonts, just the overall windown size. It is notable that it maps to the wrong font as the right and lower part of the text-area is left empty, but the everything seems to work, just below the limit to unreadable. I lack the Windows magic wand capability... Cheers, Magnus ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Lady Heather's Window, font size
Hi Brooke, Windows' error in the response to TextWidth is not a function of fixed versus proportional spacing, bitmap versus scalable font. I have not found a hard rule. Simpler fonts tend to be more accurately reported, but that's not universal. Experiment with my little program on different computers, you will be surprised of the differences. This came about because I tried to emulate a TTY screen and make the window exactly 80 characters wide, while offering the capability to change the size of the window. I have not been able to do what I wanted and at the end, I only selected one font which worked consistently over a few sizes, and I simply offer the user a few selections rather than let the user scale the window continuously. Didier -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Brooke Clarke Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 10:16 AM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Lady Heather's Window, font size Hi Didier: I've been working with my PC display adapter and it's related software. In WIN XP when I right click the desktop \ properties \ settings \advanced \ general there is an option for DPI with 96 the default, 120 the option I choose for larger text in general applications, or a custom setting. Also regarding fonts. There are fixed fonts, like courier, and True Type variable fonts that scale, like Times New Roman. Have Fun, Brooke Clarke http://www.prc68.com Didier wrote: I have found it difficult to find out from within a Windows program how big or small a particular font is rendered. Windows has a function called TextWidth (and TextHeight) that does not work correctly for all fonts. It seems to be video card driver dependant too, as the same fonts look different (and have different size) on different video cards. I wrote a small VB program that you can use to find out if windows is lying for a particular font. It's at http://www.ko4bb.com/VB_Projects/TextWidth/TextWidth.exe This programs sets the size of the colored background to what windows says the font takes. You can see some fonts work well, and some don't. I have found that most of the time, Windows returns a size greater than is actually used. That can be useful if you use these functions by letting you choose fonts that work. Didier -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Magnus Danielson Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 8:46 AM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Lady Heather's Window Magnus Danielson skrev: John Miles skrev: Here's my quick-and-dirty Windows port (including the modified source code): http://www.ke5fx.com/tbolt/setup.exe (600K) Tested on XP, should be fine on Win9x/2K, no telling with Vista. As with Mark's original program, the default is COM1; you'll need to modify your Windows shortcut to run heather /x (without the quotes) for COMx. It runs fine functionally, however, the font is minimalistic and I can't read anything written. But the graphs seems to work etc. Also, I can't change the display at run-time, which would be nice. /vl does not improve the size of fonts, just the overall windown size. It is notable that it maps to the wrong font as the right and lower part of the text-area is left empty, but the everything seems to work, just below the limit to unreadable. I lack the Windows magic wand capability... Cheers, Magnus ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Lady Heather's Window, font size
Didier skrev: I have found it difficult to find out from within a Windows program how big or small a particular font is rendered. Windows has a function called TextWidth (and TextHeight) that does not work correctly for all fonts. It seems to be video card driver dependant too, as the same fonts look different (and have different size) on different video cards. The trouble is that the windows port of Lady Heathers choose system default which is not the system default one sets in the Display Configuration. It seems like it picks Terminal 4 point. It needs to at least choose size... but preferably also choose font. I wrote a small VB program that you can use to find out if windows is lying for a particular font. It's at http://www.ko4bb.com/VB_Projects/TextWidth/TextWidth.exe This programs sets the size of the colored background to what windows says the font takes. You can see some fonts work well, and some don't. I have found that most of the time, Windows returns a size greater than is actually used. That can be useful if you use these functions by letting you choose fonts that work. Well, it is useful as such, but it seems like the graphic on my display is not obstructed from incorrectly given size, it simply chooses the wrong size to begin with Cheers, Magnus ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
