Re: [time-nuts] Nuts and Phoolery

[jimlux]

Steve Rooke wrote:

On 5 July 2010 06:10, J. Forster  wrote:

Why stop there? How about buying Russian Hydrogen MASERs and putting them
in hand-rubbed old growth teak boxes and selling them for $995,000?


They are pulling out 14,500 y/o kauri trees (hard wood) out of peat
bogs over here which are perfectly preserved in the lack of oxygen (I
have a cutting board made out of some). Maybe the boxes should be made
out of this wood because it has a zero oxygen content and was grown
before the advent of electricity and radio signals so none of these
are trapped inside it and will not interfere with the quality of the
audio. Also the very tight and narrow rings in the wood increase the
high frequency response and do not attenuate the reference frequency
of the HM leading to perfect sound. Combined with silver stranded litz
wire bunches rolled together on the thighs of virgin Cuban young woman
during a lunar eclipse to exclude the effects of solar flares.



Uhh.. solar eclipse.. you want the moon blocking the radiation from the 
sun, and, in reality, you probably want to wait a few minutes ( or 
hours) after the totality, because the particles move slower than light.


Of course, with a lunar eclipse, you have the earth blocking the 
radiation, but that happens every night, and I leave it to time nuts to 
determine precisely when the blocking effect is greatest (just saying 
midnight is probably only accurate to minutes.. what with equation of 
time and all)



Or some such foolery..


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Re: [time-nuts] Nuts and Phoolery

[Dr. David Kirkby]

On 07/ 5/10 02:56 AM, Steve Rooke wrote:

On 4 July 2010 23:30, Dr. David Kirkby  wrote:


Do the cheap fluke units allow locking to a 1 pps signal? If so, you could
sell a GPS locked version for even more!


You could get a Motorola M12+ from Bob for $0.01 if your lucky on one
of his auctions or do a deal with him as he is quite approachable. Add
a handful of chips and an $8 antenna, again, from Bob, fluke.l, and
you could add another $10,000 to the price, I'm sure :)


On closer inspection of the brochure, I see that does have a reference input for 
a cesium source for special applications. (I think that is the wording they used).


Dave

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Re: [time-nuts] Nuts and Phoolery

[Steve Rooke]

On 4 July 2010 23:30, Dr. David Kirkby  wrote:
> On 07/ 4/10 08:48 AM, Steve Rooke wrote:
>>
>> Maybe we are into the wrong sort of projects here, instead of knocking
>> together $10 "testers" we should get some cheap Rb units off fluke.l
>> and start turning out $15,000 audio equipment. Can you imagine how
>> much you could get for your ageing tube Cs unit in this phools market!
>> :)
>>
>> Steve
>
> Do the cheap fluke units allow locking to a 1 pps signal? If so, you could
> sell a GPS locked version for even more!

You could get a Motorola M12+ from Bob for $0.01 if your lucky on one
of his auctions or do a deal with him as he is quite approachable. Add
a handful of chips and an $8 antenna, again, from Bob, fluke.l, and
you could add another $10,000 to the price, I'm sure :)

Add one of the Trimble receivers in there for the extra high quality
stable units  :)

But if you really want to score in this market... You don't supply a
GPS locked Rb unit because with all the birds coming in and out of
constellation this causes jumps in the reference oscillator and
degrades the audio quality. All your units come calibrated and should
be returned to base on a 3 (6) month basis for re-calibration. Costs
for calibration range from $799.95 for a single but a 5 year contract
reduces the cost per calibration down to a mere $499.95. A separate
contract for the supply of a swapout unit to enable continuous use can
be purchased for $699.95 on a per calibration period which includes
the provision of a loan unit to you and the calibration of your unit,
shipping costs additional.

Steve

> The point made in
>
> http://www.g8wrb.org/useful-stuff/pdf/audiophools.pdf
>
> is that the people that do this sort of thing must have pretty deep pockets,
> which you don't associate with stupid people. (There are exceptions of
> course). There was a guy I was at school with. His parents were richer than
> most of us in the working class area of Walthamstow, East London.
>
> He did advanced level (A-level) in physics, chemistry and maths, just like
> me. He used speaker cables that had arrows on them pointing in the direction
> the music was supposed to flow. I asked him why. He could not offer any
> explanation of any logic for this, but still bought them, as he could afford
> to.
>
> Dave
>
>>
>> On 4 July 2010 19:33, Rob Kimberley  wrote:
>>>
>>> Maybe we've all been missing something in our timing projects.
>>> Must get some of that high purity 6N copper wire...
>>> :-)
>>> Rob K
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On
>>> Behalf Of J. Forster
>>> Sent: 03 July 2010 10:51 PM
>>> To: time-nuts@febo.com
>>> Subject: [time-nuts] Nuts and Phoolery
>>>
>>>
>>> master_clocks/g-0rb/<http://esoteric.teac.com/master_clocks/g-0rb/>
>>>
>>> About $15,000.
>>>
>>> -John
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>>
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Re: [time-nuts] Nuts and Phoolery

[J. Forster]

I don't personally collect tube Tek scopes, but many do. It's better than
seeing them stripped for 12AX7s and 6DJ8s for some silly amp, IMO.

-John

===


> I don't know if old Tek scopes are exactly endangered. I know someone
> who has quite a few scopes and plugins. If you want some of these
> space heaters, I'll put you in touch with him.
>
> Joe Gray
> W5JG
>
> On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 5:16 PM, J. Forster  wrote:
>> Sadly, the Audiophool nuttery has real collateral damage.
>>
>> Many of the very silly tube amps use transmitting tubes that are no
>> longer
>> in production. Audiophools are buying up WW II radios and Tektronix
>> scopes
>> to strip them for their tubes.
>>
>> The Audiphools are like those who get a kick on dining on endangered
>> species.
>>
>> FWIW,
>>
>> -John
>
>



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Re: [time-nuts] Nuts and Phoolery

[Joseph Gray]

I don't know if old Tek scopes are exactly endangered. I know someone
who has quite a few scopes and plugins. If you want some of these
space heaters, I'll put you in touch with him.

Joe Gray
W5JG

On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 5:16 PM, J. Forster  wrote:
> Sadly, the Audiophool nuttery has real collateral damage.
>
> Many of the very silly tube amps use transmitting tubes that are no longer
> in production. Audiophools are buying up WW II radios and Tektronix scopes
> to strip them for their tubes.
>
> The Audiphools are like those who get a kick on dining on endangered species.
>
> FWIW,
>
> -John

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Re: [time-nuts] Nuts and Phoolery

[J. Forster]

Sadly, the Audiophool nuttery has real collateral damage.

Many of the very silly tube amps use transmitting tubes that are no longer
in production. Audiophools are buying up WW II radios and Tektronix scopes
to strip them for their tubes.

The Audiphools are like those who get a kick on dining on endangered species.

FWIW,

-John

==


> I'm going to forward this over to the fun with tubes list.  Most of the
> guys
> over there get a big kick out of the nuts who spend big bucks on oxygen
> free
> copper wire and other nutty things for their sound systems.
>
> Regards.
>
> Max.  K 4 O D S.
>
> Email: m...@maxsmusicplace.com
>
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> - Original Message -
> From: "Steve Rooke" 
> To: ; "Discussion of precise time and frequency
> measurement"
> 
> Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2010 5:23 PM
> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Nuts and Phoolery
>
>
>> On 5 July 2010 06:10, J. Forster  wrote:
>>> Why stop there? How about buying Russian Hydrogen MASERs and putting
>>> them
>>> in hand-rubbed old growth teak boxes and selling them for $995,000?
>>
>> They are pulling out 14,500 y/o kauri trees (hard wood) out of peat
>> bogs over here which are perfectly preserved in the lack of oxygen (I
>> have a cutting board made out of some). Maybe the boxes should be made
>> out of this wood because it has a zero oxygen content and was grown
>> before the advent of electricity and radio signals so none of these
>> are trapped inside it and will not interfere with the quality of the
>> audio. Also the very tight and narrow rings in the wood increase the
>> high frequency response and do not attenuate the reference frequency
>> of the HM leading to perfect sound. Combined with silver stranded litz
>> wire bunches rolled together on the thighs of virgin Cuban young woman
>> during a lunar eclipse to exclude the effects of solar flares.
>>
>>> Think big.
>>
>> This is interesting!
>>
>> Steve
>>
>>> -John
>>>
>>> ==
>>>
>>>
>>>> Maybe we are into the wrong sort of projects here, instead of knocking
>>>> together $10 "testers" we should get some cheap Rb units off fluke.l
>>>> and start turning out $15,000 audio equipment. Can you imagine how
>>>> much you could get for your ageing tube Cs unit in this phools market!
>>>> :)
>>>>
>>>> Steve
>>>>
>>>> On 4 July 2010 19:33, Rob Kimberley  wrote:
>>>>> Maybe we've all been missing something in our timing projects.
>>>>> Must get some of that high purity 6N copper wire...
>>>>> :-)
>>>>> Rob K
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>> From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com]
>>>>> On
>>>>> Behalf Of J. Forster
>>>>> Sent: 03 July 2010 10:51 PM
>>>>> To: time-nuts@febo.com
>>>>> Subject: [time-nuts] Nuts and Phoolery
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> master_clocks/g-0rb/ <http://esoteric.teac.com/master_clocks/g-0rb/>
>>>>>
>>>>> About $15,000.
>>>>>
>>>>> -John
>>>>>
>>>>> 
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>> The only reason for time is so that everything doesn't happen at once.
>>>> - Einstein
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Re: [time-nuts] Nuts and Phoolery

[Max Robinson]

I'm going to forward this over to the fun with tubes list.  Most of the guys 
over there get a big kick out of the nuts who spend big bucks on oxygen free 
copper wire and other nutty things for their sound systems.


Regards.

Max.  K 4 O D S.

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- Original Message - 
From: "Steve Rooke" 
To: ; "Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement" 


Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2010 5:23 PM
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Nuts and Phoolery



On 5 July 2010 06:10, J. Forster  wrote:

Why stop there? How about buying Russian Hydrogen MASERs and putting them
in hand-rubbed old growth teak boxes and selling them for $995,000?


They are pulling out 14,500 y/o kauri trees (hard wood) out of peat
bogs over here which are perfectly preserved in the lack of oxygen (I
have a cutting board made out of some). Maybe the boxes should be made
out of this wood because it has a zero oxygen content and was grown
before the advent of electricity and radio signals so none of these
are trapped inside it and will not interfere with the quality of the
audio. Also the very tight and narrow rings in the wood increase the
high frequency response and do not attenuate the reference frequency
of the HM leading to perfect sound. Combined with silver stranded litz
wire bunches rolled together on the thighs of virgin Cuban young woman
during a lunar eclipse to exclude the effects of solar flares.


Think big.


This is interesting!

Steve


-John

==



Maybe we are into the wrong sort of projects here, instead of knocking
together $10 "testers" we should get some cheap Rb units off fluke.l
and start turning out $15,000 audio equipment. Can you imagine how
much you could get for your ageing tube Cs unit in this phools market!
:)

Steve

On 4 July 2010 19:33, Rob Kimberley  wrote:

Maybe we've all been missing something in our timing projects.
Must get some of that high purity 6N copper wire...
:-)
Rob K


-Original Message-
From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On
Behalf Of J. Forster
Sent: 03 July 2010 10:51 PM
To: time-nuts@febo.com
Subject: [time-nuts] Nuts and Phoolery


master_clocks/g-0rb/ <http://esoteric.teac.com/master_clocks/g-0rb/>

About $15,000.

-John





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Re: [time-nuts] Nuts and Phoolery

[Oz-in-DFW]

On 7/4/2010 5:23 PM, Steve Rooke wrote:
> On 5 July 2010 06:10, J. Forster  wrote:
>   
>> Why stop there? How about buying Russian Hydrogen MASERs and putting them
>> in hand-rubbed old growth teak boxes and selling them for $995,000?
>> 
> They are pulling out 14,500 y/o kauri trees (hard wood) out of peat
> bogs over here which are perfectly preserved in the lack of oxygen (I
> have a cutting board made out of some). Maybe the boxes should be made
> out of this wood because it has a zero oxygen content and was grown
> before the advent of electricity and radio signals so none of these
> are trapped inside it and will not interfere with the quality of the
> audio. Also the very tight and narrow rings in the wood increase the
> high frequency response and do not attenuate the reference frequency
> of the HM leading to perfect sound. Combined with silver stranded litz
> wire bunches rolled together on the thighs of virgin Cuban young woman
> during a lunar eclipse to exclude the effects of solar flares.
>
>   
Inspired.

Just inspired.  You seem to have missed your calling.

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Re: [time-nuts] Nuts and Phoolery

[Steve Rooke]

On 5 July 2010 06:10, J. Forster  wrote:
> Why stop there? How about buying Russian Hydrogen MASERs and putting them
> in hand-rubbed old growth teak boxes and selling them for $995,000?

They are pulling out 14,500 y/o kauri trees (hard wood) out of peat
bogs over here which are perfectly preserved in the lack of oxygen (I
have a cutting board made out of some). Maybe the boxes should be made
out of this wood because it has a zero oxygen content and was grown
before the advent of electricity and radio signals so none of these
are trapped inside it and will not interfere with the quality of the
audio. Also the very tight and narrow rings in the wood increase the
high frequency response and do not attenuate the reference frequency
of the HM leading to perfect sound. Combined with silver stranded litz
wire bunches rolled together on the thighs of virgin Cuban young woman
during a lunar eclipse to exclude the effects of solar flares.

> Think big.

This is interesting!

Steve

> -John
>
> ==
>
>
>> Maybe we are into the wrong sort of projects here, instead of knocking
>> together $10 "testers" we should get some cheap Rb units off fluke.l
>> and start turning out $15,000 audio equipment. Can you imagine how
>> much you could get for your ageing tube Cs unit in this phools market!
>> :)
>>
>> Steve
>>
>> On 4 July 2010 19:33, Rob Kimberley  wrote:
>>> Maybe we've all been missing something in our timing projects.
>>> Must get some of that high purity 6N copper wire...
>>> :-)
>>> Rob K
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On
>>> Behalf Of J. Forster
>>> Sent: 03 July 2010 10:51 PM
>>> To: time-nuts@febo.com
>>> Subject: [time-nuts] Nuts and Phoolery
>>>
>>>
>>> master_clocks/g-0rb/ <http://esoteric.teac.com/master_clocks/g-0rb/>
>>>
>>> About $15,000.
>>>
>>> -John
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>>
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>> - Einstein
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Re: [time-nuts] Nuts and Phoolery

[J. Forster]

Clearly, not Audiophool grade.

It's FAR too cheap. It should cost at least $5000 more.

-John

===


> looks like he has anticipated this market:
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/Ultra-low-jitter-16-9344Mhz-Rubidium-Frequency-Clock-/300299812514?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item45eb437ea2
>
> -Eric
>
> On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 4:30 AM, Dr. David Kirkby
>  wrote:
>> On 07/ 4/10 08:48 AM, Steve Rooke wrote:
>>>
>>> Maybe we are into the wrong sort of projects here, instead of knocking
>>> together $10 "testers" we should get some cheap Rb units off fluke.l
>>> and start turning out $15,000 audio equipment. Can you imagine how
>>> much you could get for your ageing tube Cs unit in this phools market!
>>> :)
>>>
>>> Steve
>>
>> Do the cheap fluke units allow locking to a 1 pps signal? If so, you
>> could
>> sell a GPS locked version for even more!
>>
>> The point made in
>>
>> http://www.g8wrb.org/useful-stuff/pdf/audiophools.pdf
>>
>> is that the people that do this sort of thing must have pretty deep
>> pockets,
>> which you don't associate with stupid people. (There are exceptions of
>> course). There was a guy I was at school with. His parents were richer
>> than
>> most of us in the working class area of Walthamstow, East London.
>>
>> He did advanced level (A-level) in physics, chemistry and maths, just
>> like
>> me. He used speaker cables that had arrows on them pointing in the
>> direction
>> the music was supposed to flow. I asked him why. He could not offer any
>> explanation of any logic for this, but still bought them, as he could
>> afford
>> to.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>>>
>>> On 4 July 2010 19:33, Rob Kimberley  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Maybe we've all been missing something in our timing projects.
>>>> Must get some of that high purity 6N copper wire...
>>>> :-)
>>>> Rob K
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com]
>>>> On
>>>> Behalf Of J. Forster
>>>> Sent: 03 July 2010 10:51 PM
>>>> To: time-nuts@febo.com
>>>> Subject: [time-nuts] Nuts and Phoolery
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> master_clocks/g-0rb/<http://esoteric.teac.com/master_clocks/g-0rb/>
>>>>
>>>> About $15,000.
>>>>
>>>> -John
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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Re: [time-nuts] Nuts and Phoolery

[Eric Garner]

looks like he has anticipated this market:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Ultra-low-jitter-16-9344Mhz-Rubidium-Frequency-Clock-/300299812514?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item45eb437ea2

-Eric

On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 4:30 AM, Dr. David Kirkby
 wrote:
> On 07/ 4/10 08:48 AM, Steve Rooke wrote:
>>
>> Maybe we are into the wrong sort of projects here, instead of knocking
>> together $10 "testers" we should get some cheap Rb units off fluke.l
>> and start turning out $15,000 audio equipment. Can you imagine how
>> much you could get for your ageing tube Cs unit in this phools market!
>> :)
>>
>> Steve
>
> Do the cheap fluke units allow locking to a 1 pps signal? If so, you could
> sell a GPS locked version for even more!
>
> The point made in
>
> http://www.g8wrb.org/useful-stuff/pdf/audiophools.pdf
>
> is that the people that do this sort of thing must have pretty deep pockets,
> which you don't associate with stupid people. (There are exceptions of
> course). There was a guy I was at school with. His parents were richer than
> most of us in the working class area of Walthamstow, East London.
>
> He did advanced level (A-level) in physics, chemistry and maths, just like
> me. He used speaker cables that had arrows on them pointing in the direction
> the music was supposed to flow. I asked him why. He could not offer any
> explanation of any logic for this, but still bought them, as he could afford
> to.
>
> Dave
>
>>
>> On 4 July 2010 19:33, Rob Kimberley  wrote:
>>>
>>> Maybe we've all been missing something in our timing projects.
>>> Must get some of that high purity 6N copper wire...
>>> :-)
>>> Rob K
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-
>>> From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On
>>> Behalf Of J. Forster
>>> Sent: 03 July 2010 10:51 PM
>>> To: time-nuts@febo.com
>>> Subject: [time-nuts] Nuts and Phoolery
>>>
>>>
>>> master_clocks/g-0rb/<http://esoteric.teac.com/master_clocks/g-0rb/>
>>>
>>> About $15,000.
>>>
>>> -John
>>>
>>> 
>>>
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Re: [time-nuts] Nuts and Phoolery

[J. Forster]

Why stop there? How about buying Russian Hydrogen MASERs and putting them
in hand-rubbed old growth teak boxes and selling them for $995,000?

Think big.

-John

==


> Maybe we are into the wrong sort of projects here, instead of knocking
> together $10 "testers" we should get some cheap Rb units off fluke.l
> and start turning out $15,000 audio equipment. Can you imagine how
> much you could get for your ageing tube Cs unit in this phools market!
> :)
>
> Steve
>
> On 4 July 2010 19:33, Rob Kimberley  wrote:
>> Maybe we've all been missing something in our timing projects.
>> Must get some of that high purity 6N copper wire...
>> :-)
>> Rob K
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On
>> Behalf Of J. Forster
>> Sent: 03 July 2010 10:51 PM
>> To: time-nuts@febo.com
>> Subject: [time-nuts] Nuts and Phoolery
>>
>>
>> master_clocks/g-0rb/ <http://esoteric.teac.com/master_clocks/g-0rb/>
>>
>> About $15,000.
>>
>> -John
>>
>> 
>>
>>
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Re: [time-nuts] Nuts and Phoolery

[bg]

> On 07/ 4/10 08:48 AM, Steve Rooke wrote:
>> Maybe we are into the wrong sort of projects here, instead of knocking
>> together $10 "testers" we should get some cheap Rb units off fluke.l
>> and start turning out $15,000 audio equipment. Can you imagine how
>> much you could get for your ageing tube Cs unit in this phools market!
>> :)
>>
>> Steve
>
> Do the cheap fluke units allow locking to a 1 pps signal? If so, you could
> sell
> a GPS locked version for even more!

That is what the different GPSDO boards/designs do. Most oscillators does
not include this. There are exceptions, like the X72 rubidiums that
'flyingbest' has on the market. Apparently X72s have a very modern small
rubidium package - this came with some performance hit. Search the
archives for details.

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Re: [time-nuts] Nuts and Phoolery

[Oz-in-DFW]

Ooh, ooh, and it has a 10 MHz input that you can use to upgrade to
Cesium (or hydrogen maser...)
>
> -Original Message-
> From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On
> Behalf Of J. Forster
> Sent: 03 July 2010 10:51 PM
> To: time-nuts@febo.com
> Subject: [time-nuts] Nuts and Phoolery
>
>
> master_clocks/g-0rb/ <http://esoteric.teac.com/master_clocks/g-0rb/>
>
> About $15,000.
>
> -John
>
>   

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Re: [time-nuts] Nuts and Phoolery

[Robert Lutwak]

Note that the Rb audio timing unit also provides an input for an external 10 
MHz reference. So the discerning audiophile can use his cesium if the 
rubidium drift becomes intolerable.


-RL
---


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Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Nuts and Phoolery


On 07/ 4/10 08:48 AM, Steve Rooke wrote:

Maybe we are into the wrong sort of projects here, instead of knocking
together $10 "testers" we should get some cheap Rb units off fluke.l
and start turning out $15,000 audio equipment. Can you imagine how
much you could get for your ageing tube Cs unit in this phools market!
:)

Steve


Do the cheap fluke units allow locking to a 1 pps signal? If so, you could 
sell a GPS locked version for even more!


The point made in

http://www.g8wrb.org/useful-stuff/pdf/audiophools.pdf

is that the people that do this sort of thing must have pretty deep 
pockets, which you don't associate with stupid people. (There are 
exceptions of course). There was a guy I was at school with. His parents 
were richer than most of us in the working class area of Walthamstow, East 
London.


He did advanced level (A-level) in physics, chemistry and maths, just like 
me. He used speaker cables that had arrows on them pointing in the 
direction the music was supposed to flow. I asked him why. He could not 
offer any explanation of any logic for this, but still bought them, as he 
could afford to.


Dave



On 4 July 2010 19:33, Rob Kimberley  wrote:

Maybe we've all been missing something in our timing projects.
Must get some of that high purity 6N copper wire...
:-)
Rob K


-Original Message-
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Behalf Of J. Forster
Sent: 03 July 2010 10:51 PM
To: time-nuts@febo.com
Subject: [time-nuts] Nuts and Phoolery


master_clocks/g-0rb/<http://esoteric.teac.com/master_clocks/g-0rb/>

About $15,000.

-John





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Re: [time-nuts] Nuts and Phoolery

[Dr. David Kirkby]

On 07/ 4/10 08:48 AM, Steve Rooke wrote:

Maybe we are into the wrong sort of projects here, instead of knocking
together $10 "testers" we should get some cheap Rb units off fluke.l
and start turning out $15,000 audio equipment. Can you imagine how
much you could get for your ageing tube Cs unit in this phools market!
:)

Steve


Do the cheap fluke units allow locking to a 1 pps signal? If so, you could sell 
a GPS locked version for even more!


The point made in

http://www.g8wrb.org/useful-stuff/pdf/audiophools.pdf

is that the people that do this sort of thing must have pretty deep pockets, 
which you don't associate with stupid people. (There are exceptions of course). 
There was a guy I was at school with. His parents were richer than most of us in 
the working class area of Walthamstow, East London.


He did advanced level (A-level) in physics, chemistry and maths, just like me. 
He used speaker cables that had arrows on them pointing in the direction the 
music was supposed to flow. I asked him why. He could not offer any explanation 
of any logic for this, but still bought them, as he could afford to.


Dave



On 4 July 2010 19:33, Rob Kimberley  wrote:

Maybe we've all been missing something in our timing projects.
Must get some of that high purity 6N copper wire...
:-)
Rob K


-Original Message-
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Behalf Of J. Forster
Sent: 03 July 2010 10:51 PM
To: time-nuts@febo.com
Subject: [time-nuts] Nuts and Phoolery


master_clocks/g-0rb/<http://esoteric.teac.com/master_clocks/g-0rb/>

About $15,000.

-John





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Re: [time-nuts] Nuts and Phoolery

[Steve Rooke]

Maybe we are into the wrong sort of projects here, instead of knocking
together $10 "testers" we should get some cheap Rb units off fluke.l
and start turning out $15,000 audio equipment. Can you imagine how
much you could get for your ageing tube Cs unit in this phools market!
:)

Steve

On 4 July 2010 19:33, Rob Kimberley  wrote:
> Maybe we've all been missing something in our timing projects.
> Must get some of that high purity 6N copper wire...
> :-)
> Rob K
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On
> Behalf Of J. Forster
> Sent: 03 July 2010 10:51 PM
> To: time-nuts@febo.com
> Subject: [time-nuts] Nuts and Phoolery
>
>
> master_clocks/g-0rb/ <http://esoteric.teac.com/master_clocks/g-0rb/>
>
> About $15,000.
>
> -John
>
> 
>
>
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Re: [time-nuts] Nuts and Phoolery

[Raj]

It's made for people who listen to their equipment and not to their music.

I'd rather spend the extra money on my cd/dvds!


>On 07/ 3/10 10:50 PM, J. Forster wrote:
>>
>>master_clocks/g-0rb/
>>
>>About $15,000.
>>
>>-John
>
>Perhaps you should ask why they don't use a more accurate reference than 
>rubidium. Or better still, play dumb and ask them if this rubidium is the best 
>possible clock, or could they make you something better if money was no object.
>
>You might find
>
>http://www.g8wrb.org/useful-stuff/pdf/audiophools.pdf
>
>interesting.

-- 
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Bangalore, India. 


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Re: [time-nuts] Nuts and Phoolery

[Rob Kimberley]

Maybe we've all been missing something in our timing projects. 
Must get some of that high purity 6N copper wire...
:-)
Rob K


-Original Message-
From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On
Behalf Of J. Forster
Sent: 03 July 2010 10:51 PM
To: time-nuts@febo.com
Subject: [time-nuts] Nuts and Phoolery


master_clocks/g-0rb/ <http://esoteric.teac.com/master_clocks/g-0rb/>

About $15,000.

-John





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Re: [time-nuts] Nuts and Phoolery

[Greg Burnett]

John - Your topic was already covered extensively in this group during July 
2008. (Search 4Jul2008)

Greg

- Original Message - 
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To: 
Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2010 3:50 PM
Subject: [time-nuts] Nuts and Phoolery



master_clocks/g-0rb/ <http://esoteric.teac.com/master_clocks/g-0rb/>

About $15,000.

-John







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Re: [time-nuts] Nuts and Phoolery

[Dr. David Kirkby]

On 07/ 3/10 10:50 PM, J. Forster wrote:


master_clocks/g-0rb/

About $15,000.

-John


Perhaps you should ask why they don't use a more accurate reference than 
rubidium. Or better still, play dumb and ask them if this rubidium is the best 
possible clock, or could they make you something better if money was no object.


You might find

http://www.g8wrb.org/useful-stuff/pdf/audiophools.pdf

interesting.


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[time-nuts] Nuts and Phoolery

[J. Forster]

master_clocks/g-0rb/ 

About $15,000.

-John

   Way late on the clock idea. For example :
   [1]master_clocks/g-0rb/
   About $15,000.

   --
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References

   1. http://esoteric.teac.com/master_clocks/g-0rb/
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