Re: [time-nuts] OCXO phase pops

2016-05-09 Thread Bob Stewart
Hi Magnus,

I wouldn't know how.  I don't have the password to the thing, either.  I'm not 
even sure it can be done.

Bob

On Mon, 5/9/16, Magnus Danielson  wrote:

 Subject: Re: [time-nuts] OCXO phase pops
 To: time-nuts@febo.com
 Cc: mag...@rubidium.se
 Date: Monday, May 9, 2016, 5:30 AM
 
 How does it behave when
 you run the PRS-45 in open loop?
 
 Cheers,
 Magnus
 
 On 05/09/2016 02:43 AM, Bob
 Stewart wrote:
 > I started getting phase
 pops in my testing recently, and I'm pretty sure
 they're from the PRS-45A Cs standard.  Is this likely
 to go away after it cooks some more, or do I need to start
 looking for a new OCXO?  It's been running since
 January, and has an MTI marked model number 250-0827.  The
 only thing I has as a potential replacement is the
 260-0624-C in a spare KS-24361.  I have no idea whether
 they are even close in quality or power/EFC needs.  Oh, and
 when one of these pops happens (usually between 1 and 2ns)
 the output tracks back to where it was, so it doesn't
 seem like it's a problem with the other parts of the
 PRS.
 >
 > Bob -
 AE6RV
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Re: [time-nuts] OCXO phase pops

2016-05-09 Thread Magnus Danielson

How does it behave when you run the PRS-45 in open loop?

Cheers,
Magnus

On 05/09/2016 02:43 AM, Bob Stewart wrote:

I started getting phase pops in my testing recently, and I'm pretty sure 
they're from the PRS-45A Cs standard.  Is this likely to go away after it cooks 
some more, or do I need to start looking for a new OCXO?  It's been running 
since January, and has an MTI marked model number 250-0827.  The only thing I 
has as a potential replacement is the 260-0624-C in a spare KS-24361.  I have 
no idea whether they are even close in quality or power/EFC needs.  Oh, and 
when one of these pops happens (usually between 1 and 2ns) the output tracks 
back to where it was, so it doesn't seem like it's a problem with the other 
parts of the PRS.

Bob - AE6RV
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Re: [time-nuts] OCXO phase pops

2016-05-09 Thread Bob Camp
Hi

The problem with phase pops inside a control loop is that they can come from a 
lot of places. As
long as the loop is still closed they generally track out. That’s not saying 
the OCXO is *not* the source,
only that there are other culprits to dig into. 

Classic phase pops in an OCXO tend to be wide spaced in time. Since they are 
also randomly spaced,
that’s not any help with two pops. Sorry about that. 

Bob


> On May 8, 2016, at 8:43 PM, Bob Stewart  wrote:
> 
> I started getting phase pops in my testing recently, and I'm pretty sure 
> they're from the PRS-45A Cs standard.  Is this likely to go away after it 
> cooks some more, or do I need to start looking for a new OCXO?  It's been 
> running since January, and has an MTI marked model number 250-0827.  The only 
> thing I has as a potential replacement is the 260-0624-C in a spare KS-24361. 
>  I have no idea whether they are even close in quality or power/EFC needs.  
> Oh, and when one of these pops happens (usually between 1 and 2ns) the output 
> tracks back to where it was, so it doesn't seem like it's a problem with the 
> other parts of the PRS.
> 
> Bob - AE6RV
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[time-nuts] OCXO phase pops

2016-05-08 Thread Bob Stewart
I started getting phase pops in my testing recently, and I'm pretty sure 
they're from the PRS-45A Cs standard.  Is this likely to go away after it cooks 
some more, or do I need to start looking for a new OCXO?  It's been running 
since January, and has an MTI marked model number 250-0827.  The only thing I 
has as a potential replacement is the 260-0624-C in a spare KS-24361.  I have 
no idea whether they are even close in quality or power/EFC needs.  Oh, and 
when one of these pops happens (usually between 1 and 2ns) the output tracks 
back to where it was, so it doesn't seem like it's a problem with the other 
parts of the PRS.

Bob - AE6RV
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