Re: [time-nuts] Parts (Mouser) for the PICTIC II

2010-07-09 Thread Lester Veenstra
To edit, send project to shopping cart, edit shopping cart, save as project
with revised name



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From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On
Behalf Of Bob Camp
Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 1:08 AM
To: mccor...@ptialaska.net; Discussion of precise time and frequency
measurement
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Parts (Mouser) for the PICTIC II

Hi

Another thing I think we need to get on the project is Q4:

512-2N7000TAFarichild's version at 0.13 each.

Since I didn't create the project I don't seem to be able to edit it 

Bob


On Jul 8, 2010, at 7:26 PM, Richard H McCorkle wrote:

> Bob,
> Instead of the 3266 series go to the 3296 series
> 
> 5K Trimmer, top adjust
> 652-3296W-1-502LF 7100 in stock
> 652-3296Y-1-502LF  590 in stock
> 
> 200 Trimmer, top adjust
> 652-3296W-1-201LF 1090 in stock
> 652-3296Y-1-201LF 830 in stock
> 
> Richard
> 
> 
>> Hi
>> 
>> The real question somebody needs to answer is - will it work with 
>> side adjust trimmers? If not, then we're going to have to find 
>> another source to get the trimmers from.
>> 
>> The project on Mouser shows the 3266p trimmer. AFIK the correct part is
the 3266w.
>> The board also appears to be laid out for the 3266y. Another 
>> alternative is the 3266x. All the details of what's what are at:
>> 
>> http://www.bourns.com/data/global/pdfs/3266.pdf
>> 
>> My guess is that the 3266p isn't going to work. The 3266y is even 
>> harder to get than the 3266w. The 3266x looks problematic when you go 
>> to do the adjustment
>> 
>> Rational solutions:
>> 
>> 1) Jameco shows the 3266w as "ships today" in 5 K ohms. Who knows how 
>> many they actually have
>> 2) 3266w is available in the 2K ohm flavor at Mouser (lots in stock). 
>> If you change
>> R16 and R23 to 1K ohms, the 2K pot should work fine.  That makes them 
>> the same value as R5 and R6. One fewer line item ...
>> 
>> I'd vote for option 2.
>> 
>> Bob
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Jul 8, 2010, at 2:55 PM, Lester Veenstra wrote:
>> 
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Re: [time-nuts] Parts (Mouser) for the PICTIC II

2010-07-09 Thread Bob Camp
Hi

The RS-232 USB dongles are <$4 these days. They are enough cheaper that the TTL 
ones that the MAX232 and misc parts still don't make them more expensive.


Bob

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On Jul 9, 2010, at 5:28 PM, "Richard H McCorkle"  wrote:

> Bob,
> I included the option to go with a TTL output for users without a serial
> port that might need to feed TTL into an internal USB converter in their
> project or to drive a PC port directly with a short cable. Including the
> extra pads on the board and the TTL invert flag in the code adds no cost.
> But the option of adding appropriate jumpers or components allows TTL
> signals of either polarity to be used with a USB converter. I am not
> certain of the requirements for the different USB converters that might
> be available, but having normal or inverted TTL and RS-232 signals as
> options should provide enough flexibility to use a wide variety of USB
> converter options. I recommend the MAX232 be installed for normal
> serial port use as it will drive longer lines to a PC, with an RS-232 to
> USB dongle added as a simple solution if a serial port is not available.
>  I socketed all the devices on my board to simplify troubleshooting
> and repair should that be required in the future. At the minimum the
> PIC should be socketed to simplify reprogramming as new code is
> developed. I haven't lost a single 74AC74 input chip in 3 years of
> testing but a socket there is also a good idea. The XO and sample
> caps should be selected for the application and desired resolution.
> Three pads are provided for the sample caps so either 0.1” or 0.2”
> lead spacing can be accommodated. Use ceramic NPO/COG caps
> of 5% or better tolerance for best results. No additional parts will
> be required during calibration.
>  The 10M clock XO was selected as the default as many users have a
> 10M OCXO or GPSDO they may want to use as the counter reference.
> In a typical GPS monitoring application where the house 1PPS is
> compared  to GPS 1PPS with 1ns resolution the delay will normally
> be less than 10us and a 30PPM XO will provide sufficient stability
> to return accurate data. Over longer measurement intervals a higher
> stability clock would be needed to insure the clock drifted less than
> 1 cycle over the measurement interval to insure accurate data would
> be returned. For faster clocks 3x or 5x tuned multipliers or doublers
> can be used to derive the counter clock from a slower source. No
> clock conditioning is included on board so for accuracy over longer
> measurement intervals an external high-stability TTL clock needs
> to be supplied by the user.
>  Use of a high stability clock is possible by using an XO for the
> interpolator calibration, storing the calibration values in EEPROM,
> turning off the AutoCal routine, and switching to the external source
> for normal operation. If a faster external source than 10M is available
> the XO and sample capacitor values should be chosen to match the
> faster external rate you plan to use. The lower stability XO would be
> used during initial calibration to insure frequent coincidences between
> the inputs and clock as the XO drifts in frequency. As the inputs pass
> thru coincidence with the clock the interpolators pass thru their min
> and max limits, and the more times they pass thru the limits during a
> calibration cycle the more likely the data will correctly reflect those
> limits.
>  Peak detection of the interpolator data over a long period (> 1 hr)
> will capture the min and max limits and can then be used to determine
> the offset and span of the interpolators. When a high stability timebase
> and high stability sources are used long periods between coincidences
> can occur. This could result in improper peak values returned over a
> calibration cycle, so the AutoCal routine should either use much longer
> calibration intervals to capture the peak limits or be disabled when a
> high stability clock is used.
>  During setup the peak detector values can be displayed continuously
> and can be reset manually after an adjustment to start a new calibration
> cycle. Apply two 1PPS inputs to the counter and adjust the gain
> trimmers to give identical 800 count p-p spans and the offset trimmers
> to center the span in the ADC range. A difference in the channel gains
> will introduce an error in the final result, so a close gain match is
> desired. The offsets are not as critical but centering the data in the ADC
> span will provide a wider range the data can drift over temperature and
> age and stay within the ADC span. A series of adjust, reset, sample,
> and repeat cycles will be required to get the calibration values in the
> ballpark. Allow a full calibration cycle to complete to store the values
> determined in EEPROM. The counter will then use the stored values
> to correct the data mathematically to remove the offset and adjust the
> span for the desired gain. Once the interpolators have been calibrated
> the p

Re: [time-nuts] Parts (Mouser) for the PICTIC II

2010-07-09 Thread Bob Bownes
q4 and the 3/8 trimmers are in my list.

On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 8:34 PM, Bob Bownes  wrote:
>  I'll get these 2 corrections in tonight. I was wondering if the 3/8"
> parts would fit.
>
> On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 8:07 PM, Bob Camp  wrote:
>> Hi
>>
>> Another thing I think we need to get on the project is Q4:
>>
>> 512-2N7000TA    Farichild's version at 0.13 each.
>>
>> Since I didn't create the project I don't seem to be able to edit it 
>>
>> Bob
>>
>>
>> On Jul 8, 2010, at 7:26 PM, Richard H McCorkle wrote:
>>
>>> Bob,
>>> Instead of the 3266 series go to the 3296 series
>>>
>>> 5K Trimmer, top adjust
>>> 652-3296W-1-502LF 7100 in stock
>>> 652-3296Y-1-502LF  590 in stock
>>>
>>> 200 Trimmer, top adjust
>>> 652-3296W-1-201LF 1090 in stock
>>> 652-3296Y-1-201LF 830 in stock
>>>
>>> Richard
>>>
>>>
 Hi

 The real question somebody needs to answer is - will it work with side 
 adjust
 trimmers? If not, then we're going to have to find another source to get 
 the
 trimmers from.

 The project on Mouser shows the 3266p trimmer. AFIK the correct part is 
 the 3266w.
 The board also appears to be laid out for the 3266y. Another alternative 
 is the
 3266x. All the details of what's what are at:

 http://www.bourns.com/data/global/pdfs/3266.pdf

 My guess is that the 3266p isn't going to work. The 3266y is even harder 
 to get
 than the 3266w. The 3266x looks problematic when you go to do the 
 adjustment

 Rational solutions:

 1) Jameco shows the 3266w as "ships today" in 5 K ohms. Who knows how many 
 they
 actually have
 2) 3266w is available in the 2K ohm flavor at Mouser (lots in stock). If 
 you change
 R16 and R23 to 1K ohms, the 2K pot should work fine.  That makes them the 
 same
 value as R5 and R6. One fewer line item ...

 I'd vote for option 2.

 Bob




 On Jul 8, 2010, at 2:55 PM, Lester Veenstra wrote:

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>
>
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Re: [time-nuts] Parts (Mouser) for the PICTIC II

2010-07-09 Thread Richard H McCorkle
Bob,
I included the option to go with a TTL output for users without a serial
port that might need to feed TTL into an internal USB converter in their
project or to drive a PC port directly with a short cable. Including the
extra pads on the board and the TTL invert flag in the code adds no cost.
But the option of adding appropriate jumpers or components allows TTL
signals of either polarity to be used with a USB converter. I am not
certain of the requirements for the different USB converters that might
be available, but having normal or inverted TTL and RS-232 signals as
options should provide enough flexibility to use a wide variety of USB
converter options. I recommend the MAX232 be installed for normal
serial port use as it will drive longer lines to a PC, with an RS-232 to
USB dongle added as a simple solution if a serial port is not available.
  I socketed all the devices on my board to simplify troubleshooting
and repair should that be required in the future. At the minimum the
PIC should be socketed to simplify reprogramming as new code is
developed. I haven't lost a single 74AC74 input chip in 3 years of
testing but a socket there is also a good idea. The XO and sample
caps should be selected for the application and desired resolution.
Three pads are provided for the sample caps so either 0.1” or 0.2”
lead spacing can be accommodated. Use ceramic NPO/COG caps
of 5% or better tolerance for best results. No additional parts will
be required during calibration.
  The 10M clock XO was selected as the default as many users have a
10M OCXO or GPSDO they may want to use as the counter reference.
In a typical GPS monitoring application where the house 1PPS is
compared  to GPS 1PPS with 1ns resolution the delay will normally
be less than 10us and a 30PPM XO will provide sufficient stability
to return accurate data. Over longer measurement intervals a higher
stability clock would be needed to insure the clock drifted less than
1 cycle over the measurement interval to insure accurate data would
be returned. For faster clocks 3x or 5x tuned multipliers or doublers
can be used to derive the counter clock from a slower source. No
clock conditioning is included on board so for accuracy over longer
measurement intervals an external high-stability TTL clock needs
to be supplied by the user.
  Use of a high stability clock is possible by using an XO for the
interpolator calibration, storing the calibration values in EEPROM,
turning off the AutoCal routine, and switching to the external source
for normal operation. If a faster external source than 10M is available
the XO and sample capacitor values should be chosen to match the
faster external rate you plan to use. The lower stability XO would be
used during initial calibration to insure frequent coincidences between
the inputs and clock as the XO drifts in frequency. As the inputs pass
thru coincidence with the clock the interpolators pass thru their min
and max limits, and the more times they pass thru the limits during a
calibration cycle the more likely the data will correctly reflect those
limits.
  Peak detection of the interpolator data over a long period (> 1 hr)
will capture the min and max limits and can then be used to determine
the offset and span of the interpolators. When a high stability timebase
and high stability sources are used long periods between coincidences
can occur. This could result in improper peak values returned over a
calibration cycle, so the AutoCal routine should either use much longer
calibration intervals to capture the peak limits or be disabled when a
high stability clock is used.
  During setup the peak detector values can be displayed continuously
and can be reset manually after an adjustment to start a new calibration
cycle. Apply two 1PPS inputs to the counter and adjust the gain
trimmers to give identical 800 count p-p spans and the offset trimmers
to center the span in the ADC range. A difference in the channel gains
will introduce an error in the final result, so a close gain match is
desired. The offsets are not as critical but centering the data in the ADC
span will provide a wider range the data can drift over temperature and
age and stay within the ADC span. A series of adjust, reset, sample,
and repeat cycles will be required to get the calibration values in the
ballpark. Allow a full calibration cycle to complete to store the values
determined in EEPROM. The counter will then use the stored values
to correct the data mathematically to remove the offset and adjust the
span for the desired gain. Once the interpolators have been calibrated
the peak detector display and AutoCal routines can be disabled and
the external high stability clock can be selected as the counter
timebase for normal operation.

Richard

> Hi
>
> A few other things to consider:
>
> The MAX 232 is an either / or with a transistor and a couple of resistors. 
> Not a
> lot of money either way. I'd just go for the MAX and leave out the transistor.
>
> 

Re: [time-nuts] Parts (Mouser) for the PICTIC II

2010-07-08 Thread Bob Camp
Hi

A few other things to consider:

The MAX 232 is an either / or with a transistor and a couple of resistors. Not 
a lot of money either way. I'd just go for the MAX and leave out the 
transistor. 

Putting the PIC in a skinny 14 pin socket would make things a bit easier if 
there are software enhancements down the road. 

Eventually you are going to blow out U4 (the input flip flop). I'd put it in a 
14 pin socket. 

The clock oscillator used is going to depend on what people are trying to do 
with the gizmo. I suspect that a 20 or 40 MHz clock will be more popular than 
the 10 MHz part listed. C16 and C17 are "selects" as well. I think I'd leave 
the clock as is and toss in a couple of the alternate caps. 

---

I wonder if there are any parts required to calibrate the assembled unit?


So many questions 



Bob




On Jul 8, 2010, at 8:34 PM, Bob Bownes wrote:

> I'll get these 2 corrections in tonight. I was wondering if the 3/8"
> parts would fit.
> 
> On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 8:07 PM, Bob Camp  wrote:
>> Hi
>> 
>> Another thing I think we need to get on the project is Q4:
>> 
>> 512-2N7000TAFarichild's version at 0.13 each.
>> 
>> Since I didn't create the project I don't seem to be able to edit it 
>> 
>> Bob
>> 
>> 
>> On Jul 8, 2010, at 7:26 PM, Richard H McCorkle wrote:
>> 
>>> Bob,
>>> Instead of the 3266 series go to the 3296 series
>>> 
>>> 5K Trimmer, top adjust
>>> 652-3296W-1-502LF 7100 in stock
>>> 652-3296Y-1-502LF  590 in stock
>>> 
>>> 200 Trimmer, top adjust
>>> 652-3296W-1-201LF 1090 in stock
>>> 652-3296Y-1-201LF 830 in stock
>>> 
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>> 
 Hi
 
 The real question somebody needs to answer is - will it work with side 
 adjust
 trimmers? If not, then we're going to have to find another source to get 
 the
 trimmers from.
 
 The project on Mouser shows the 3266p trimmer. AFIK the correct part is 
 the 3266w.
 The board also appears to be laid out for the 3266y. Another alternative 
 is the
 3266x. All the details of what's what are at:
 
 http://www.bourns.com/data/global/pdfs/3266.pdf
 
 My guess is that the 3266p isn't going to work. The 3266y is even harder 
 to get
 than the 3266w. The 3266x looks problematic when you go to do the 
 adjustment
 
 Rational solutions:
 
 1) Jameco shows the 3266w as "ships today" in 5 K ohms. Who knows how many 
 they
 actually have
 2) 3266w is available in the 2K ohm flavor at Mouser (lots in stock). If 
 you change
 R16 and R23 to 1K ohms, the 2K pot should work fine.  That makes them the 
 same
 value as R5 and R6. One fewer line item ...
 
 I'd vote for option 2.
 
 Bob
 
 
 
 
 On Jul 8, 2010, at 2:55 PM, Lester Veenstra wrote:
 
> Safe to get in the water yet?
> 
> 
> 
> Lester B Veenstra  MØYCM K1YCM
> les...@veenstras.com
> m0...@veenstras.com
> k1...@veenstras.com
> 
> 
> US Postal Address:
> PSC 45 Box 781
> APO AE 09468 USA
> 
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Re: [time-nuts] Parts (Mouser) for the PICTIC II

2010-07-08 Thread Bob Bownes
 I'll get these 2 corrections in tonight. I was wondering if the 3/8"
parts would fit.

On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 8:07 PM, Bob Camp  wrote:
> Hi
>
> Another thing I think we need to get on the project is Q4:
>
> 512-2N7000TA    Farichild's version at 0.13 each.
>
> Since I didn't create the project I don't seem to be able to edit it 
>
> Bob
>
>
> On Jul 8, 2010, at 7:26 PM, Richard H McCorkle wrote:
>
>> Bob,
>> Instead of the 3266 series go to the 3296 series
>>
>> 5K Trimmer, top adjust
>> 652-3296W-1-502LF 7100 in stock
>> 652-3296Y-1-502LF  590 in stock
>>
>> 200 Trimmer, top adjust
>> 652-3296W-1-201LF 1090 in stock
>> 652-3296Y-1-201LF 830 in stock
>>
>> Richard
>>
>>
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> The real question somebody needs to answer is - will it work with side 
>>> adjust
>>> trimmers? If not, then we're going to have to find another source to get the
>>> trimmers from.
>>>
>>> The project on Mouser shows the 3266p trimmer. AFIK the correct part is the 
>>> 3266w.
>>> The board also appears to be laid out for the 3266y. Another alternative is 
>>> the
>>> 3266x. All the details of what's what are at:
>>>
>>> http://www.bourns.com/data/global/pdfs/3266.pdf
>>>
>>> My guess is that the 3266p isn't going to work. The 3266y is even harder to 
>>> get
>>> than the 3266w. The 3266x looks problematic when you go to do the adjustment
>>>
>>> Rational solutions:
>>>
>>> 1) Jameco shows the 3266w as "ships today" in 5 K ohms. Who knows how many 
>>> they
>>> actually have
>>> 2) 3266w is available in the 2K ohm flavor at Mouser (lots in stock). If 
>>> you change
>>> R16 and R23 to 1K ohms, the 2K pot should work fine.  That makes them the 
>>> same
>>> value as R5 and R6. One fewer line item ...
>>>
>>> I'd vote for option 2.
>>>
>>> Bob
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jul 8, 2010, at 2:55 PM, Lester Veenstra wrote:
>>>
 Safe to get in the water yet?



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Re: [time-nuts] Parts (Mouser) for the PICTIC II

2010-07-08 Thread Bob Camp
Hi

Another thing I think we need to get on the project is Q4:

512-2N7000TAFarichild's version at 0.13 each.

Since I didn't create the project I don't seem to be able to edit it 

Bob


On Jul 8, 2010, at 7:26 PM, Richard H McCorkle wrote:

> Bob,
> Instead of the 3266 series go to the 3296 series
> 
> 5K Trimmer, top adjust
> 652-3296W-1-502LF 7100 in stock
> 652-3296Y-1-502LF  590 in stock
> 
> 200 Trimmer, top adjust
> 652-3296W-1-201LF 1090 in stock
> 652-3296Y-1-201LF 830 in stock
> 
> Richard
> 
> 
>> Hi
>> 
>> The real question somebody needs to answer is - will it work with side adjust
>> trimmers? If not, then we're going to have to find another source to get the
>> trimmers from.
>> 
>> The project on Mouser shows the 3266p trimmer. AFIK the correct part is the 
>> 3266w.
>> The board also appears to be laid out for the 3266y. Another alternative is 
>> the
>> 3266x. All the details of what's what are at:
>> 
>> http://www.bourns.com/data/global/pdfs/3266.pdf
>> 
>> My guess is that the 3266p isn't going to work. The 3266y is even harder to 
>> get
>> than the 3266w. The 3266x looks problematic when you go to do the adjustment
>> 
>> Rational solutions:
>> 
>> 1) Jameco shows the 3266w as "ships today" in 5 K ohms. Who knows how many 
>> they
>> actually have
>> 2) 3266w is available in the 2K ohm flavor at Mouser (lots in stock). If you 
>> change
>> R16 and R23 to 1K ohms, the 2K pot should work fine.  That makes them the 
>> same
>> value as R5 and R6. One fewer line item ...
>> 
>> I'd vote for option 2.
>> 
>> Bob
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Jul 8, 2010, at 2:55 PM, Lester Veenstra wrote:
>> 
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Re: [time-nuts] Parts (Mouser) for the PICTIC II

2010-07-08 Thread Bob Camp
Hi

Ok, It wasn't clear to me weather the 3/8" parts would fit on the layout in 
place of the 1/4" parts. The larger parts are indeed easier to get.

Thanks!

Bob


On Jul 8, 2010, at 7:26 PM, Richard H McCorkle wrote:

> Bob,
> Instead of the 3266 series go to the 3296 series
> 
> 5K Trimmer, top adjust
> 652-3296W-1-502LF 7100 in stock
> 652-3296Y-1-502LF  590 in stock
> 
> 200 Trimmer, top adjust
> 652-3296W-1-201LF 1090 in stock
> 652-3296Y-1-201LF 830 in stock
> 
> Richard
> 
> 
>> Hi
>> 
>> The real question somebody needs to answer is - will it work with side adjust
>> trimmers? If not, then we're going to have to find another source to get the
>> trimmers from.
>> 
>> The project on Mouser shows the 3266p trimmer. AFIK the correct part is the 
>> 3266w.
>> The board also appears to be laid out for the 3266y. Another alternative is 
>> the
>> 3266x. All the details of what's what are at:
>> 
>> http://www.bourns.com/data/global/pdfs/3266.pdf
>> 
>> My guess is that the 3266p isn't going to work. The 3266y is even harder to 
>> get
>> than the 3266w. The 3266x looks problematic when you go to do the adjustment
>> 
>> Rational solutions:
>> 
>> 1) Jameco shows the 3266w as "ships today" in 5 K ohms. Who knows how many 
>> they
>> actually have
>> 2) 3266w is available in the 2K ohm flavor at Mouser (lots in stock). If you 
>> change
>> R16 and R23 to 1K ohms, the 2K pot should work fine.  That makes them the 
>> same
>> value as R5 and R6. One fewer line item ...
>> 
>> I'd vote for option 2.
>> 
>> Bob
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Jul 8, 2010, at 2:55 PM, Lester Veenstra wrote:
>> 
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>>> 
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Re: [time-nuts] Parts (Mouser) for the PICTIC II

2010-07-08 Thread Richard H McCorkle
Bob,
Instead of the 3266 series go to the 3296 series

5K Trimmer, top adjust
652-3296W-1-502LF 7100 in stock
652-3296Y-1-502LF  590 in stock

200 Trimmer, top adjust
652-3296W-1-201LF 1090 in stock
652-3296Y-1-201LF 830 in stock

Richard


> Hi
>
> The real question somebody needs to answer is - will it work with side adjust
> trimmers? If not, then we're going to have to find another source to get the
> trimmers from.
>
> The project on Mouser shows the 3266p trimmer. AFIK the correct part is the 
> 3266w.
> The board also appears to be laid out for the 3266y. Another alternative is 
> the
> 3266x. All the details of what's what are at:
>
> http://www.bourns.com/data/global/pdfs/3266.pdf
>
> My guess is that the 3266p isn't going to work. The 3266y is even harder to 
> get
> than the 3266w. The 3266x looks problematic when you go to do the adjustment
>
> Rational solutions:
>
> 1) Jameco shows the 3266w as "ships today" in 5 K ohms. Who knows how many 
> they
> actually have
> 2) 3266w is available in the 2K ohm flavor at Mouser (lots in stock). If you 
> change
> R16 and R23 to 1K ohms, the 2K pot should work fine.  That makes them the same
> value as R5 and R6. One fewer line item ...
>
> I'd vote for option 2.
>
> Bob
>
>
>
>
> On Jul 8, 2010, at 2:55 PM, Lester Veenstra wrote:
>
>> Safe to get in the water yet?
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [time-nuts] Parts (Mouser) for the PICTIC II

2010-07-08 Thread Bob Camp
Hi

The real question somebody needs to answer is - will it work with side adjust 
trimmers? If not, then we're going to have to find another source to get the 
trimmers from. 

The project on Mouser shows the 3266p trimmer. AFIK the correct part is the 
3266w. The board also appears to be laid out for the 3266y. Another alternative 
is the 3266x. All the details of what's what are at:

http://www.bourns.com/data/global/pdfs/3266.pdf

My guess is that the 3266p isn't going to work. The 3266y is even harder to get 
than the 3266w. The 3266x looks problematic when you go to do the adjustment 

Rational solutions:

1) Jameco shows the 3266w as "ships today" in 5 K ohms. Who knows how many they 
actually have
2) 3266w is available in the 2K ohm flavor at Mouser (lots in stock). If you 
change R16 and R23 to 1K ohms, the 2K pot should work fine.  That makes them 
the same value as R5 and R6. One fewer line item ...

I'd vote for option 2.

Bob




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Re: [time-nuts] Parts (Mouser) for the PICTIC II

2010-07-08 Thread Lester Veenstra
Safe to get in the water yet?



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Re: [time-nuts] Parts (Mouser) for the PICTIC II

2010-07-07 Thread Lester Veenstra
Q4, the FET seems to missing from the Mouser BOM.



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-Original Message-
From: Bob Bownes [mailto:bow...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 4:14 PM
To: les...@veenstras.com
Cc: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Parts (Mouser) for the PICTIC II

Not right this sec. Give us a few hours.



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> measurement
> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Parts (Mouser) for the PICTIC II
>
> It has not been updated yet. We're still looking for a good replacement.
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 10:57 AM, Lester Veenstra 
> 
> wrote:
>> Has the Mouser list:
>> https://www.mouser.com/ProjectManager/ProjectDetail.aspx?AccessID=c7a
>> d
>> a9ced0 Been updated with the right trimmers, or is "right" still up 
>> in the air?
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [time-nuts] Parts (Mouser) for the PICTIC II

2010-07-07 Thread Bob Bownes
Not right this sec. Give us a few hours.



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>
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> measurement
> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Parts (Mouser) for the PICTIC II
>
> It has not been updated yet. We're still looking for a good replacement.
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 10:57 AM, Lester Veenstra 
> wrote:
>> Has the Mouser list:
>> https://www.mouser.com/ProjectManager/ProjectDetail.aspx?AccessID=c7ad
>> a9ced0 Been updated with the right trimmers, or is "right" still up in
>> the air?
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [time-nuts] Parts (Mouser) for the PICTIC II

2010-07-07 Thread Lester Veenstra
So now would not be a good time to execute a Mouser Project buy.

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From: Bob Bownes [mailto:bow...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 4:05 PM
To: les...@veenstras.com; Discussion of precise time and frequency
measurement
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Parts (Mouser) for the PICTIC II

It has not been updated yet. We're still looking for a good replacement.


On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 10:57 AM, Lester Veenstra 
wrote:
> Has the Mouser list:
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> a9ced0 Been updated with the right trimmers, or is "right" still up in 
> the air?
>
>
>
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Re: [time-nuts] Parts (Mouser) for the PICTIC II

2010-07-07 Thread Bob Bownes
It has not been updated yet. We're still looking for a good replacement.


On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 10:57 AM, Lester Veenstra  wrote:
> Has the Mouser list:
> https://www.mouser.com/ProjectManager/ProjectDetail.aspx?AccessID=c7ada9ced0
> Been updated with the right trimmers, or is "right" still up in the air?
>
>
>
> Lester B Veenstra  MØYCM K1YCM
> les...@veenstras.com
> m0...@veenstras.com
> k1...@veenstras.com
>
>
> US Postal Address:
> PSC 45 Box 781
> APO AE 09468 USA
>
> UK Postal Address:
> Dawn Cottage
> Norwood, Harrogate
> HG3 1SD, UK
>
> Telephones:
> Office: +44-(0)1423-846-385
> Home: +44-(0)1943-880-963
> Guam Cell: +1-671-788-5654
> UK Cell:   +44-(0)7716-298-224
> US Cell:   +1-240-425-7335
> Jamaica:  +1-876-352-7504
>
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[time-nuts] Parts (Mouser) for the PICTIC II

2010-07-07 Thread Lester Veenstra
Has the Mouser list:
https://www.mouser.com/ProjectManager/ProjectDetail.aspx?AccessID=c7ada9ced0
Been updated with the right trimmers, or is "right" still up in the air?



Lester B Veenstra  MØYCM K1YCM
les...@veenstras.com
m0...@veenstras.com
k1...@veenstras.com
 

US Postal Address:
PSC 45 Box 781
APO AE 09468 USA

UK Postal Address:
Dawn Cottage
Norwood, Harrogate
HG3 1SD, UK

Telephones:
Office: +44-(0)1423-846-385
Home: +44-(0)1943-880-963 
Guam Cell: +1-671-788-5654
UK Cell:   +44-(0)7716-298-224 
US Cell:   +1-240-425-7335 
Jamaica:  +1-876-352-7504 
 
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