Re: [time-nuts] RG6 or LMR400 for GPS Antenna (Symmetricom, 58532Aand T-bolt)

2016-04-22 Thread Dan Kemppainen



On 4/22/2016 12:00 PM, time-nuts-requ...@febo.com wrote:

On 4/21/16 6:03 PM, Tom Van Baak wrote:

>Paul,
>
>If possible can you make an audio recording of a woodpecker attack? You know 
it's a form of 1pPS.
>I'd like to add that data set to my list of ADEV plots.
>

I am sure, like almost all oscillators, it will have 1/f flicker noise.



It's not unheard of around here to increase shot noise to solve the 
problem...


Dan

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Re: [time-nuts] RG6 or LMR400 for GPS Antenna (Symmetricom 58532Aand T-bolt)

2016-04-22 Thread Hal Murray
Groan...

>> If possible can you make an audio recording of a woodpecker attack?
> I am sure, like almost all oscillators, it will have 1/f flicker noise.

In case some of you aren't familiar with the local fauna:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colaptes


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Re: [time-nuts] RG6 or LMR400 for GPS Antenna (Symmetricom 58532Aand T-bolt)

2016-04-22 Thread Magnus Danielson
Love the sound of them as they use the telephone-pole as target, the 
phone line ties into the house and the ceiling becomes a speaker 
element. No recording. Woodpeckers run faster than 1 PPS, around 2 PPS 
or so I'd guess from memory.


I was once asked by a friend, who lives a couple of km away, if I had a 
russian woodpecker on my backside. Knowing his ability to make 
minimalistic jokes, I quickly checked the Internet, understood and 
replied that he could probably see that better from his place. :)


Cheers,
Magnus

On 04/22/2016 03:03 AM, Tom Van Baak wrote:

Paul,

If possible can you make an audio recording of a woodpecker attack? You know 
it's a form of 1pPS.
I'd like to add that data set to my list of ADEV plots.

/tvb

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Subject: Re: [time-nuts] RG6 or LMR400 for GPS Antenna (Symmetricom 58532Aand 
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All accurate accept the aging rate of any coax/heliax. Useful life =Years
of expected life/woodpecker attacks. I would never have believed it but I
am actually having trouble with those birds. :-) Just never know.
Regards
Paul
WB8TSL


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Re: [time-nuts] RG6 or LMR400 for GPS Antenna (Symmetricom 58532Aand T-bolt)

2016-04-21 Thread jimlux

On 4/21/16 6:03 PM, Tom Van Baak wrote:

Paul,

If possible can you make an audio recording of a woodpecker attack? You know 
it's a form of 1pPS.
I'd like to add that data set to my list of ADEV plots.



I am sure, like almost all oscillators, it will have 1/f flicker noise.

Heatbeats do, walking stride rates do, etc.



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Re: [time-nuts] RG6 or LMR400 for GPS Antenna (Symmetricom 58532Aand T-bolt)

2016-04-21 Thread Tom Van Baak
Paul,

If possible can you make an audio recording of a woodpecker attack? You know 
it's a form of 1pPS.
I'd like to add that data set to my list of ADEV plots.

/tvb

- Original Message - 
From: "paul swed" <paulsw...@gmail.com>
To: "Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement" <time-nuts@febo.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2016 5:54 PM
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] RG6 or LMR400 for GPS Antenna (Symmetricom 58532Aand 
T-bolt)


All accurate accept the aging rate of any coax/heliax. Useful life =Years
of expected life/woodpecker attacks. I would never have believed it but I
am actually having trouble with those birds. :-) Just never know.
Regards
Paul
WB8TSL


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