Re: [time-nuts] Timelab, GPIB-USB-B in a VM

[paul swed]

Pretty sure the GPIB-enets been unsupported for about 10 years.
I have one and liked it. But when NI didn't move it forward with the
operating systems it became a pain in the butt needing a windows 98 machine.
This talk of using VMs is interesting indeed. I have used both KVM and
VMware.
Regards
Paul
WB8TSL

On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 11:49 PM, Bob Bownes <bow...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> Yup, I'm using VBox. Kinda have to on account it $DAY_JOB. ;)
>
> In any case, it appears, in the USB case, to be an Issue with the
> GPIB-USB-B as when I swapped it out with a GPIB-USB-HS, it all comes right
> up.
>
> I'm suspicious of the GPIB-ENET, and am wondering if I've been bitten by a
> No Longer Supported by NI issue. Bah.
>
> In any case, there is a nice 8 hour adev running on an old 10811 that's
> been on the bench for a while. Will swap that one out for one marked 'bad
> phase noise' in the am and see how they match up.
>
> > On Mar 27, 2017, at 21:20, Bob Stewart <b...@evoria.net> wrote:
> >
> > I don't know how they're done in VMWare, but in VirtualBox, you have to
> setup the USB configuration for the VM before you start it.  You just click
> the machine, settings, then USB, then add a device, then select from what's
> available.  Which means you have to have it plugged in and enumerated first.
> >
> > Bob
> >
> >
> >  From: Bob Bownes <bow...@gmail.com>
> > To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement <
> time-nuts@febo.com>
> > Sent: Monday, March 27, 2017 8:03 PM
> > Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Timelab, GPIB-USB-B in a VM
> >
> > John,
> >
> > Thanks for the reply.
> >
> > I'm obviously missing something as I can't see the GPIB-USB-B or the
> > ethernet connected GPIB-ENET.
> >
> > It's really as simple as going to aquire->HP5371/5372 and the interfaces
> > should be in the list, correct?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Bob
> >
> >
> >> On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 6:42 PM, John Miles <j...@miles.io> wrote:
> >>
> >> Try running the 32-bit version (timelab.exe) instead of timelab64.exe,
> >> even if the VM supports 64-bit execution.  That can sometimes help with
> >> compatibility.
> >>
> >> -- john, KE5FX
> >> Miles Design LLC
> >>
> >>> -Original Message-
> >>> From: time-nuts [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Bob
> >>> Bownes
> >>> Sent: Monday, March 27, 2017 2:49 PM
> >>> To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement
> >>> Subject: [time-nuts] Timelab, GPIB-USB-B in a VM
> >>>
> >>> So I'm trying to run timelab in a windows 7 VM with a GPIB-USB-B
> >> interface.
> >>>
> >>> Anyone ever tried such a thing?
> >>>
> >>> The NI explorer sees the interface but nothing else does.
> >>>
> >>> Pointers welcome!
> >>>
> >>> Data on a bunch of oscillators as soon as I get it to work...:)
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> Bob
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Re: [time-nuts] Timelab, GPIB-USB-B in a VM

[Bob Bownes]

Yup, I'm using VBox. Kinda have to on account it $DAY_JOB. ;)

In any case, it appears, in the USB case, to be an Issue with the GPIB-USB-B as 
when I swapped it out with a GPIB-USB-HS, it all comes right up. 

I'm suspicious of the GPIB-ENET, and am wondering if I've been bitten by a No 
Longer Supported by NI issue. Bah. 

In any case, there is a nice 8 hour adev running on an old 10811 that's been on 
the bench for a while. Will swap that one out for one marked 'bad phase noise' 
in the am and see how they match up. 

> On Mar 27, 2017, at 21:20, Bob Stewart <b...@evoria.net> wrote:
> 
> I don't know how they're done in VMWare, but in VirtualBox, you have to setup 
> the USB configuration for the VM before you start it.  You just click the 
> machine, settings, then USB, then add a device, then select from what's 
> available.  Which means you have to have it plugged in and enumerated first.
> 
> Bob 
> 
> 
>  From: Bob Bownes <bow...@gmail.com>
> To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement <time-nuts@febo.com> 
> Sent: Monday, March 27, 2017 8:03 PM
> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Timelab, GPIB-USB-B in a VM
> 
> John,
> 
> Thanks for the reply.
> 
> I'm obviously missing something as I can't see the GPIB-USB-B or the
> ethernet connected GPIB-ENET.
> 
> It's really as simple as going to aquire->HP5371/5372 and the interfaces
> should be in the list, correct?
> 
> Thanks,
> Bob
> 
> 
>> On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 6:42 PM, John Miles <j...@miles.io> wrote:
>> 
>> Try running the 32-bit version (timelab.exe) instead of timelab64.exe,
>> even if the VM supports 64-bit execution.  That can sometimes help with
>> compatibility.
>> 
>> -- john, KE5FX
>> Miles Design LLC
>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: time-nuts [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Bob
>>> Bownes
>>> Sent: Monday, March 27, 2017 2:49 PM
>>> To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement
>>> Subject: [time-nuts] Timelab, GPIB-USB-B in a VM
>>> 
>>> So I'm trying to run timelab in a windows 7 VM with a GPIB-USB-B
>> interface.
>>> 
>>> Anyone ever tried such a thing?
>>> 
>>> The NI explorer sees the interface but nothing else does.
>>> 
>>> Pointers welcome!
>>> 
>>> Data on a bunch of oscillators as soon as I get it to work...:)
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Bob
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Re: [time-nuts] Timelab, GPIB-USB-B in a VM

[Bob Stewart]

I don't know how they're done in VMWare, but in VirtualBox, you have to setup 
the USB configuration for the VM before you start it.  You just click the 
machine, settings, then USB, then add a device, then select from what's 
available.  Which means you have to have it plugged in and enumerated first.

Bob 


  From: Bob Bownes <bow...@gmail.com>
 To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement <time-nuts@febo.com> 
 Sent: Monday, March 27, 2017 8:03 PM
 Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Timelab, GPIB-USB-B in a VM
   
John,

Thanks for the reply.

I'm obviously missing something as I can't see the GPIB-USB-B or the
ethernet connected GPIB-ENET.

It's really as simple as going to aquire->HP5371/5372 and the interfaces
should be in the list, correct?

Thanks,
Bob


On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 6:42 PM, John Miles <j...@miles.io> wrote:

> Try running the 32-bit version (timelab.exe) instead of timelab64.exe,
> even if the VM supports 64-bit execution.  That can sometimes help with
> compatibility.
>
> -- john, KE5FX
> Miles Design LLC
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: time-nuts [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Bob
> > Bownes
> > Sent: Monday, March 27, 2017 2:49 PM
> > To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement
> > Subject: [time-nuts] Timelab, GPIB-USB-B in a VM
> >
> > So I'm trying to run timelab in a windows 7 VM with a GPIB-USB-B
> interface.
> >
> > Anyone ever tried such a thing?
> >
> > The NI explorer sees the interface but nothing else does.
> >
> > Pointers welcome!
> >
> > Data on a bunch of oscillators as soon as I get it to work...:)
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Bob
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Re: [time-nuts] Timelab, GPIB-USB-B in a VM

[Bob Bownes]

John,

Thanks for the reply.

I'm obviously missing something as I can't see the GPIB-USB-B or the
ethernet connected GPIB-ENET.

It's really as simple as going to aquire->HP5371/5372 and the interfaces
should be in the list, correct?

Thanks,
Bob


On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 6:42 PM, John Miles <j...@miles.io> wrote:

> Try running the 32-bit version (timelab.exe) instead of timelab64.exe,
> even if the VM supports 64-bit execution.  That can sometimes help with
> compatibility.
>
> -- john, KE5FX
> Miles Design LLC
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: time-nuts [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Bob
> > Bownes
> > Sent: Monday, March 27, 2017 2:49 PM
> > To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement
> > Subject: [time-nuts] Timelab, GPIB-USB-B in a VM
> >
> > So I'm trying to run timelab in a windows 7 VM with a GPIB-USB-B
> interface.
> >
> > Anyone ever tried such a thing?
> >
> > The NI explorer sees the interface but nothing else does.
> >
> > Pointers welcome!
> >
> > Data on a bunch of oscillators as soon as I get it to work...:)
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Bob
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Re: [time-nuts] Timelab, GPIB-USB-B in a VM

[Tim Lister]

On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 2:48 PM, Bob Bownes  wrote:
> So I'm trying to run timelab in a windows 7 VM with a GPIB-USB-B interface.
>
> Anyone ever tried such a thing?
>
> The NI explorer sees the interface but nothing else does.
>
> Pointers welcome!

I believe you have to configure the Virtual Machine hosting software
to allow USB passthrough to the host OS. I cam across this recently in
a Youtube video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJ0Mfuj0KUQ) which
was getting an ADF4351 board's Windows software working under Linux -
unfortunately I don't have a stream pointer as to how far in it was
but I think it was towards the early-middle

>
> Data on a bunch of oscillators as soon as I get it to work...:)
>
> Thanks,
> Bob

Cheers,
Tim
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Re: [time-nuts] Timelab, GPIB-USB-B in a VM

[John Miles]

Try running the 32-bit version (timelab.exe) instead of timelab64.exe, even if 
the VM supports 64-bit execution.  That can sometimes help with compatibility.

-- john, KE5FX
Miles Design LLC

> -Original Message-
> From: time-nuts [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Bob
> Bownes
> Sent: Monday, March 27, 2017 2:49 PM
> To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement
> Subject: [time-nuts] Timelab, GPIB-USB-B in a VM
> 
> So I'm trying to run timelab in a windows 7 VM with a GPIB-USB-B interface.
> 
> Anyone ever tried such a thing?
> 
> The NI explorer sees the interface but nothing else does.
> 
> Pointers welcome!
> 
> Data on a bunch of oscillators as soon as I get it to work...:)
> 
> Thanks,
> Bob
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[time-nuts] Timelab, GPIB-USB-B in a VM

[Bob Bownes]

So I'm trying to run timelab in a windows 7 VM with a GPIB-USB-B interface.

Anyone ever tried such a thing?

The NI explorer sees the interface but nothing else does.

Pointers welcome!

Data on a bunch of oscillators as soon as I get it to work...:)

Thanks,
Bob
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