[time-nuts] VIGO time interval devices

2011-11-02 Thread Arthur Dent
Jose Camara-Berkeley Nucleonics has them, Keithley has them, they all must 
come from the same Chinese OEM. Maybe the quality is good, maybe the specs 
are honest and apples to apples. Or maybe not.
---

Interesting to note that the Picotest/Array U6200A and the BNC 1105 use exactly 
the same photos in their ads. The major difference seems to be the asking price.

http://www.picotest.com.tw/product02.html
http://www.array.sh/yq-u6200ae.htm
http://www.berkeleynucleonics.com/products/model_1105.html
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Re: [time-nuts] VIGO time interval devices

2011-11-02 Thread Javier Herrero

A couple more :)

http://www.acquitek.com/u6200a/counter-test-measurement.html
http://www.ptsyst.com/U6200A-B.pdf (even with 20GHz input option)

Similar thing I found some time ago when looking for an electronic load. 
Same thing with several different branding, price ranging for 1 to 2.


Regards,

Javier


El 02/11/2011 12:19, Arthur Dent escribió:

Jose Camara-Berkeley Nucleonics has them, Keithley has them, they all must
come from the same Chinese OEM. Maybe the quality is good, maybe the specs
are honest and apples to apples. Or maybe not.
---

Interesting to note that the Picotest/Array U6200A and the BNC 1105 use exactly
the same photos in their ads. The major difference seems to be the asking price.

http://www.picotest.com.tw/product02.html
http://www.array.sh/yq-u6200ae.htm
http://www.berkeleynucleonics.com/products/model_1105.html
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Re: [time-nuts] VIGO time interval devices

2011-11-02 Thread Mark Spencer
If anyone was ever to review such a device the actual power consumption would 
be usefull to know.   The likely savings in electricty costs could provide some 
justification for replacing one of my HP5370B's (:

Devices that could also easily run from a DC power source could have merit as 
well.  

--- On Tue, 11/1/11, Jose Camara camar...@quantacorp.com wrote:

 From: Jose Camara camar...@quantacorp.com
 Subject: Re: [time-nuts] VIGO time interval devices
 To: 'Arthur Dent' golgarfrinc...@yahoo.com, 'Discussion of precise time 
 and frequency measurement' time-nuts@febo.com
 Received: Tuesday, November 1, 2011, 11:50 PM
 There seems to be a deluge of these
 OEM counters, mimicking the 53132
 operation, with a bit better specs and built-in 3rd
 channel.
 
     Berkeley Nucleonics has them, Keithley
 has them, they all must come
 from the same Chinese OEM. Maybe the quality is good, maybe
 the specs are
 honest and apples to apples. Or maybe not.
 
     The only experience I had was with
 another Agilent knock-off, the
 BNC-branded arb generator model 645, which was cheaper than
 the Agilent,
 with a higher frequency capability (50MHz compared to
 20MHz) and SCPI
 compatible. Didn't check side by side on a spectrum
 analyzer, but for the
 application I had it worked fine.  As a plus, it had
 also digital output on
 the back (16 bits) so it doubled as a cheap word
 generator.
 
     It would be nice for a real time nutter
 to get one (BNC often
 offered 1 month loaners) and measure the actual
 performance.  One thing we
 will only know 10 years from now is if they last as long as
 the HPs - or if
 the manufacturer will still exist.
 
     BNC has a comparison to Agilent and
 Pendulum on their site. Caveat
 Emptor. http://www.berkeleynucleonics.com/Comp/1105/1105_comp_chart.htm
 
 Jose
 
  
 -Original Message-
 From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com
 [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com]
 On
 Behalf Of Arthur Dent
 Sent: Monday, October 31, 2011 2:25 PM
 To: time-nuts@febo.com
 Subject: [time-nuts] VIGO time interval devices
 
 Has anyone looked into the Picotest (also sold as Array)
 U6200A TIC? 
 
 Looks like DC-6Ghz with 12 digits/sec and 40ps resolution.
 Check 
 
 the specs at:
 
 http://www.picotest.com.tw/product02.html
 
 One seller on the popular auction site has them for $1270
 (with shipping).
 
 http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Universal-Frequency-Counter-meter-ARRAY-U6200A-/
 270788500453
 
 
  -Arthur
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Re: [time-nuts] VIGO time interval devices

2011-11-01 Thread Azelio Boriani
What about the Racal Instruments (Racal Dana) 2351 8pS, 300MHz? Yes, it is
VXI but 8pS one-shot seems interesting...

On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 10:24 PM, Arthur Dent golgarfrinc...@yahoo.comwrote:

 Has anyone looked into the Picotest (also sold as Array) U6200A TIC?

 Looks like DC-6Ghz with 12 digits/sec and 40ps resolution. Check

 the specs at:

 http://www.picotest.com.tw/product02.html

 One seller on the popular auction site has them for $1270 (with shipping).


 http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Universal-Frequency-Counter-meter-ARRAY-U6200A-/270788500453


  -Arthur
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[time-nuts] VIGO time interval devices

2011-11-01 Thread Arthur Dent
The specs for the Racal 2351 indicate it might take 16.6 minutes to attain 8ps 

resolution, if I understand the specs correctly. Check under resolution mode 

vs max. sample rate, meas. time under input characteristics on the spec 
sheet.

http://www.testequipmentconnection.com/tecspecs/Racal_Instruments_2351.PDF

-Arthur
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Re: [time-nuts] VIGO time interval devices

2011-11-01 Thread Jose Camara
There seems to be a deluge of these OEM counters, mimicking the 53132
operation, with a bit better specs and built-in 3rd channel.

Berkeley Nucleonics has them, Keithley has them, they all must come
from the same Chinese OEM. Maybe the quality is good, maybe the specs are
honest and apples to apples. Or maybe not.

The only experience I had was with another Agilent knock-off, the
BNC-branded arb generator model 645, which was cheaper than the Agilent,
with a higher frequency capability (50MHz compared to 20MHz) and SCPI
compatible. Didn't check side by side on a spectrum analyzer, but for the
application I had it worked fine.  As a plus, it had also digital output on
the back (16 bits) so it doubled as a cheap word generator.

It would be nice for a real time nutter to get one (BNC often
offered 1 month loaners) and measure the actual performance.  One thing we
will only know 10 years from now is if they last as long as the HPs - or if
the manufacturer will still exist.

BNC has a comparison to Agilent and Pendulum on their site. Caveat
Emptor. http://www.berkeleynucleonics.com/Comp/1105/1105_comp_chart.htm

Jose

 
-Original Message-
From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On
Behalf Of Arthur Dent
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2011 2:25 PM
To: time-nuts@febo.com
Subject: [time-nuts] VIGO time interval devices

Has anyone looked into the Picotest (also sold as Array) U6200A TIC? 

Looks like DC-6Ghz with 12 digits/sec and 40ps resolution. Check 

the specs at:

http://www.picotest.com.tw/product02.html

One seller on the popular auction site has them for $1270 (with shipping).

http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Universal-Frequency-Counter-meter-ARRAY-U6200A-/
270788500453


 -Arthur
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[time-nuts] VIGO time interval devices

2011-10-31 Thread Don Latham
Nutters:
I've been emailing with the VIGO factory about the T3200U
counter/timers. The specs looked good.
Here is the factory reply:

Hello,
We will open a Pay Pal account if needed.
Following please find the requested quotation:
QUOTE #1xxx
T3200U...2270,_ USD
Prices are  EXW VIGO System (do not include cost of shipment   insurance)
Shipment within ~4 weeks ARO
Since these  time counters are assembled as orders come in,  we offer
them  on the basis of prepayment:
Upon receipt of the order we will issue a proforma invoice with all
details needed to arrange the payment.
So, there is probably not a user community out there, and my guess is
the counters will be buggy. At that price, they will disappear from the
catalog Real Soon Now. Recovery of engineering costs in the first few
units ain't a good business plan?
Needless to say, but I will anyway, I do not plan to order one of these
in the near future. Will stick with my Hp5370A's and 5363B triggers, and
Prologix net interface. (all of which is not yet implemented, so no, I
do not have any handy hints yet :-))

But FYI,
Don
-- 
Neither the voice of authority nor the weight of reason and argument
are as significant as experiment, for thence comes quiet to the mind.
R. Bacon
If you don't know what it is, don't poke it.
Ghost in the Shell


Dr. Don Latham AJ7LL
Six Mile Systems LLP
17850 Six Mile Road
POB 134
Huson, MT, 59846
VOX 406-626-4304
www.lightningforensics.com
www.sixmilesystems.com



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[time-nuts] VIGO time interval devices

2011-10-31 Thread Arthur Dent
Has anyone looked into the Picotest (also sold as Array) U6200A TIC? 

Looks like DC-6Ghz with 12 digits/sec and 40ps resolution. Check 

the specs at:

http://www.picotest.com.tw/product02.html

One seller on the popular auction site has them for $1270 (with shipping).

http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Universal-Frequency-Counter-meter-ARRAY-U6200A-/270788500453


 -Arthur
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