[time-nuts] Z3801A version issues - was Re: Substitute GPS in a Z3801A

2010-08-29 Thread Matthew Kaufman
 I believe I've found a difference between the faulty units and the 
working units... The faulty ones come up as 1/1/1997 when you do 
:SYSTEM:PRESET, the good ones come up as 1/1/1998. Does this difference 
ring any bells for anyone?


Matthew Kaufman

On 6/24/2010 8:41 AM, Matthew Kaufman wrote:
I now have *two* Z3801A units which misbehave in the following way 
(which this thread reminded me of):


The GPS status says it acquires quite a few (5-6) satellites with high 
signal strength... then after a minute or two, for no apparent reason, 
it loses *all* of them simultaneously but immediately goes back into 
"acquiring" for the ones it was seeing, and a few seconds later, 
they're all back. During this time, survey (if in progress) is halted 
and then restarts and runs for a bit before halting again when it 
loses everything briefly again. Then, within days, the unit ends up 
out of lock... if I go check it, I see it doing the same thing, and 
when the satellites are being received it is in "fine frequency 
adjust" mode, but so far off the 1pps phase that it really has no hope 
of re-locking before the next time it drops and then reacquires all 
the satellites.


This is independent of antenna, location, and 48v power source... one 
unit apparently has been this way since I got it, the other worked 
fine for months and then developed this problem.


Without knowing more, I'm thinking it might simply be a bad GPS 
receiver board, thus the idea of trying to find a replacement, perhaps 
one that is better at staying acquired, has crossed my mind.


Matthew Kaufman

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Re: [time-nuts] Z3801A version issues - was Re: Substitute GPS in a Z3801A

2010-08-29 Thread paul swed
I seem to remember a rollover about then that obsoleted older gps units.

On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 5:40 PM, Matthew Kaufman  wrote:

>  I believe I've found a difference between the faulty units and the working
> units... The faulty ones come up as 1/1/1997 when you do :SYSTEM:PRESET, the
> good ones come up as 1/1/1998. Does this difference ring any bells for
> anyone?
>
> Matthew Kaufman
>
> On 6/24/2010 8:41 AM, Matthew Kaufman wrote:
>
>> I now have *two* Z3801A units which misbehave in the following way (which
>> this thread reminded me of):
>>
>> The GPS status says it acquires quite a few (5-6) satellites with high
>> signal strength... then after a minute or two, for no apparent reason, it
>> loses *all* of them simultaneously but immediately goes back into
>> "acquiring" for the ones it was seeing, and a few seconds later, they're all
>> back. During this time, survey (if in progress) is halted and then restarts
>> and runs for a bit before halting again when it loses everything briefly
>> again. Then, within days, the unit ends up out of lock... if I go check it,
>> I see it doing the same thing, and when the satellites are being received it
>> is in "fine frequency adjust" mode, but so far off the 1pps phase that it
>> really has no hope of re-locking before the next time it drops and then
>> reacquires all the satellites.
>>
>> This is independent of antenna, location, and 48v power source... one unit
>> apparently has been this way since I got it, the other worked fine for
>> months and then developed this problem.
>>
>> Without knowing more, I'm thinking it might simply be a bad GPS receiver
>> board, thus the idea of trying to find a replacement, perhaps one that is
>> better at staying acquired, has crossed my mind.
>>
>> Matthew Kaufman
>>
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Re: [time-nuts] Z3801A version issues - was Re: Substitute GPS in a Z3801A

2010-08-29 Thread mike cook

 would that have shown up in a firmware version id change?

try *IDN? and see if there is any correlation Matthew.



Le 30/08/2010 03:23, paul swed a écrit :

I seem to remember a rollover about then that obsoleted older gps units.

On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 5:40 PM, Matthew Kaufman  wrote:


  I believe I've found a difference between the faulty units and the working
units... The faulty ones come up as 1/1/1997 when you do :SYSTEM:PRESET, the
good ones come up as 1/1/1998. Does this difference ring any bells for
anyone?

Matthew Kaufman

On 6/24/2010 8:41 AM, Matthew Kaufman wrote:


I now have *two* Z3801A units which misbehave in the following way (which
this thread reminded me of):

The GPS status says it acquires quite a few (5-6) satellites with high
signal strength... then after a minute or two, for no apparent reason, it
loses *all* of them simultaneously but immediately goes back into
"acquiring" for the ones it was seeing, and a few seconds later, they're all
back. During this time, survey (if in progress) is halted and then restarts
and runs for a bit before halting again when it loses everything briefly
again. Then, within days, the unit ends up out of lock... if I go check it,
I see it doing the same thing, and when the satellites are being received it
is in "fine frequency adjust" mode, but so far off the 1pps phase that it
really has no hope of re-locking before the next time it drops and then
reacquires all the satellites.

This is independent of antenna, location, and 48v power source... one unit
apparently has been this way since I got it, the other worked fine for
months and then developed this problem.

Without knowing more, I'm thinking it might simply be a bad GPS receiver
board, thus the idea of trying to find a replacement, perhaps one that is
better at staying acquired, has crossed my mind.

Matthew Kaufman

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