Re: [time-nuts] Fun with the Z3815

2012-08-11 Thread jmfranke
Have you tried commanding a survey to get the receive to ignore the old 
location?


:PTIME:GPSYSTEM:POSITION:SURVEY ONCE

John WA4WDL
--
From: Morris Odell vilgo...@bigpond.net.au
Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2012 7:27 AM
To: time-nuts@febo.com
Subject: [time-nuts] Fun with the Z3815


HI all,

I posted a question recently here for a friend re a Z3815 not receiving,
having formerly been perfect.  Here's what he says now:

 I've done more testing with my HP3815A. Firstly I rewired the coax cable
between the external antenna connector and the PCB - there was some 
evidence

of snagging on the outside of the cable where it passes through the metal
casing. However, no improvement in performance resulted. Also the blocking
capacitor referred to turns out to be an inductor. DC is making it through
to the antenna amp, and there is continuity along the whole route from
N-connector to the Furuno GPS receiver input.

The status screen on Hyperterminal shows that something is happening,
however. The SYNCHRONIZATION section on the display showed outputs 
invalid,

TFOM = 9 and FFOM = 3 (i.e. no sync). But the ACQUISITION section showed
that although no satellites had been tracked, several had been detected - 
in
fact 9 of them.  Also, the correct date and time were displayed. The LAT 
and

LONG data was incorrect, being the original northern hemisphere figures.
Health monitor reads OK and there are no ALARMS. So the receiver appears 
to
be picking up enough information to show the satellites' PRN, EL and AZ 
(and

furthermore they change between readings) as well as the date and time.
What's more the time displayed is local time!

Any suggestions as to what's going on?

Morris


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Re: [time-nuts] Fun with the Z3815

2012-08-11 Thread Azelio Boriani
Try to preset the receiver too:
:SYSTEM:PRESET
But first you can read the system log to try to identify when the failure
started:
:DIAGNOSTIC:LOG:READ:ALL?
Doing a SYSTEM:PRESET will clear the log, of course.

Very strange the inductor on the antenna cable: my Z3815A has a capacitor
also because there is a different power for the antenna and I suspect that
you have a short between the Furuno antenna power and the Z3815A antenna
power.

On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 1:51 PM, jmfranke jmfra...@cox.net wrote:

 Have you tried commanding a survey to get the receive to ignore the old
 location?

 :PTIME:GPSYSTEM:POSITION:SURVEY ONCE

 John WA4WDL
 --
 From: Morris Odell vilgo...@bigpond.net.au
 Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2012 7:27 AM
 To: time-nuts@febo.com
 Subject: [time-nuts] Fun with the Z3815


  HI all,

 I posted a question recently here for a friend re a Z3815 not receiving,
 having formerly been perfect.  Here's what he says now:

  I've done more testing with my HP3815A. Firstly I rewired the coax cable
 between the external antenna connector and the PCB - there was some
 evidence
 of snagging on the outside of the cable where it passes through the metal
 casing. However, no improvement in performance resulted. Also the blocking
 capacitor referred to turns out to be an inductor. DC is making it through
 to the antenna amp, and there is continuity along the whole route from
 N-connector to the Furuno GPS receiver input.

 The status screen on Hyperterminal shows that something is happening,
 however. The SYNCHRONIZATION section on the display showed outputs
 invalid,
 TFOM = 9 and FFOM = 3 (i.e. no sync). But the ACQUISITION section showed
 that although no satellites had been tracked, several had been detected -
 in
 fact 9 of them.  Also, the correct date and time were displayed. The LAT
 and
 LONG data was incorrect, being the original northern hemisphere figures.
 Health monitor reads OK and there are no ALARMS. So the receiver appears
 to
 be picking up enough information to show the satellites' PRN, EL and AZ
 (and
 furthermore they change between readings) as well as the date and time.
 What's more the time displayed is local time!

 Any suggestions as to what's going on?

 Morris


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Re: [time-nuts] Fun with the Z3815

2012-08-11 Thread Bob Camp
Hi

As I recall, this was a 3815 that was working and then stopped working. 

If it's back to it's original location, then the new location from the survey 
was never saved to eprom. Once he gets a new survey, make sure to save it. If 
it's not saved, the unit will revert to the old location every time the power 
is cycled.

Bob

On Aug 11, 2012, at 7:27 AM, Morris Odell vilgo...@bigpond.net.au wrote:

 HI all,
 
 I posted a question recently here for a friend re a Z3815 not receiving,
 having formerly been perfect.  Here's what he says now:
 
  I've done more testing with my HP3815A. Firstly I rewired the coax cable
 between the external antenna connector and the PCB - there was some evidence
 of snagging on the outside of the cable where it passes through the metal
 casing. However, no improvement in performance resulted. Also the blocking
 capacitor referred to turns out to be an inductor. DC is making it through
 to the antenna amp, and there is continuity along the whole route from
 N-connector to the Furuno GPS receiver input.
 
 The status screen on Hyperterminal shows that something is happening,
 however. The SYNCHRONIZATION section on the display showed outputs invalid,
 TFOM = 9 and FFOM = 3 (i.e. no sync). But the ACQUISITION section showed
 that although no satellites had been tracked, several had been detected - in
 fact 9 of them.  Also, the correct date and time were displayed. The LAT and
 LONG data was incorrect, being the original northern hemisphere figures.
 Health monitor reads OK and there are no ALARMS. So the receiver appears to
 be picking up enough information to show the satellites' PRN, EL and AZ (and
 furthermore they change between readings) as well as the date and time.
 What's more the time displayed is local time!
 
 Any suggestions as to what's going on?
 
 Morris
 
 
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Re: [time-nuts] Fun with the Z3815

2012-08-11 Thread Christopher Brown


On 8/11/12 4:16 AM, Azelio Boriani wrote:
 
 Very strange the inductor on the antenna cable: my Z3815A has a capacitor
 also because there is a different power for the antenna and I suspect that
 you have a short between the Furuno antenna power and the Z3815A antenna
 power.
 

Think you looking at different things.

There should be an inductor at the DC injection point, connecting to the
signal line.  And a cap as a DC block twards the receiver in-line with it.

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Re: [time-nuts] Fun with the Z3815

2012-08-11 Thread Azelio Boriani
Of course, but they say that there is a DC continuity from the N connector
downto the Furuno receiver: this is very strange. These the exact words:

DC is making it through
 to the antenna amp, and there is continuity along the whole route from
 N-connector to the Furuno GPS receiver input.

Very strange also because the inductor will prevent the receiver from
getting any signal. Another strange thing: I haven't never saved any survey
in my Z3815A and I have seen that in case of a power cycle the survey is
repeated. The faulty Z3815A seems always acquiring and never tracking:
maybe a Furuno clock problem? What can prevent a GPS receiver to enter the
tracking state?

On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 10:03 PM, Christopher Brown cbr...@woods.netwrote:



 On 8/11/12 4:16 AM, Azelio Boriani wrote:
 
  Very strange the inductor on the antenna cable: my Z3815A has a capacitor
  also because there is a different power for the antenna and I suspect
 that
  you have a short between the Furuno antenna power and the Z3815A antenna
  power.
 

 Think you looking at different things.

 There should be an inductor at the DC injection point, connecting to the
 signal line.  And a cap as a DC block twards the receiver in-line with it.

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