Re: [time-nuts] PBS, Tue evening, The Secret of Tuxedo Park

2018-01-16 Thread Tom Van Baak
I can't stress enough how important Loomis was to the history of precise 
timekeeping in early radio, telephone, pendulum clock, quartz oscillator era. 
And for those of us who still have Loran-C receivers can thank him (Loomis 
Radio Navigation -> LRN -> Loran).

So I highly recommend the 2003 book "Tuxedo Park" by Jennet Conant:
http://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Tuxedo-Park/Jennet-Conant/9780684872889

Our kind of guy. In the "Palace of Science" chapter she writes: Loomis would 
remain a "time nut" for the rest of his life, according to Luis Alvarez, who 
recalled that Loomis always wore "two Accutrons--one on his right wrist and one 
on his left wrist." He would check them every day against WWV (the standard 
frequency broadcasting station of the National Bureau of Standards), and if one 
was gaining a half second on the other, he would wear it on the outside of his 
wrist instead of the inside, so that gravity changed the rate of the tuning 
fork and the two watches tracked each other, and WWV, "to within less than a 
second a day."



Some other Loomis links of interest:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_Lee_Loomis
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LORAN
https://timeandnavigation.si.edu/navigating-air/navigation-at-war/new-era-in-time-and-navigation/alfred-loomis
http://www.ob-ultrasound.net/loomis.html
http://leapsecond.com/pages/loomis/


And the clever way to do time transfer and compare precision clocks to 1 ms in 
the 1930's...

http://leapsecond.com/pend/shortt/1931-RAS-Precise-Measurement-Time-Loomis.pdf


Also the classic "The Evolution of the Quartz Crystal Clock" by Warren A. 
Marrison:

https://ieee-uffc.org/about-us/history/uffc-s-history/the-evolution-of-the-quartz-crystal-clock/
via https://ieee-uffc.org/about-us/history/uffc-s-history/
and original at https://archive.org/details/bstj27-3-510


If someone knows how to record any time/clock/navigation parts of PBS show for 
non-US viewers let me know, off-list.

/tvb


- Original Message - 
From: "Hal Murray" 
To: 
Cc: "Hal Murray" 
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 1:42 AM
Subject: [time-nuts] PBS, Tue evening, The Secret of Tuxedo Park


> (Sorry for the clutter to those of you outside the US.)
> 
> http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/films/secret-tuxedo-park/
> Two of the shorts mentions time.
> 
> Many thanks for the Tuxedo Park book suggestion many years ago.
> 
> 
> -- 
> These are my opinions.  I hate spam.
> 

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Re: [time-nuts] PBS, Tue evening, The Secret of Tuxedo Park

2018-01-16 Thread Azelio Boriani
>>...he would wear it on the outside of his wrist instead of the inside, so 
>>that gravity changed the rate of the tuning fork...
Sort of manual turbillon...

On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 4:04 PM, Tom Van Baak  wrote:
> I can't stress enough how important Loomis was to the history of precise 
> timekeeping in early radio, telephone, pendulum clock, quartz oscillator era. 
> And for those of us who still have Loran-C receivers can thank him (Loomis 
> Radio Navigation -> LRN -> Loran).
>
> So I highly recommend the 2003 book "Tuxedo Park" by Jennet Conant:
> http://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Tuxedo-Park/Jennet-Conant/9780684872889
>
> Our kind of guy. In the "Palace of Science" chapter she writes: Loomis would 
> remain a "time nut" for the rest of his life, according to Luis Alvarez, who 
> recalled that Loomis always wore "two Accutrons--one on his right wrist and 
> one on his left wrist." He would check them every day against WWV (the 
> standard frequency broadcasting station of the National Bureau of Standards), 
> and if one was gaining a half second on the other, he would wear it on the 
> outside of his wrist instead of the inside, so that gravity changed the rate 
> of the tuning fork and the two watches tracked each other, and WWV, "to 
> within less than a second a day."
>
>
>
> Some other Loomis links of interest:
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_Lee_Loomis
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LORAN
> https://timeandnavigation.si.edu/navigating-air/navigation-at-war/new-era-in-time-and-navigation/alfred-loomis
> http://www.ob-ultrasound.net/loomis.html
> http://leapsecond.com/pages/loomis/
>
>
> And the clever way to do time transfer and compare precision clocks to 1 ms 
> in the 1930's...
>
> http://leapsecond.com/pend/shortt/1931-RAS-Precise-Measurement-Time-Loomis.pdf
>
>
> Also the classic "The Evolution of the Quartz Crystal Clock" by Warren A. 
> Marrison:
>
> https://ieee-uffc.org/about-us/history/uffc-s-history/the-evolution-of-the-quartz-crystal-clock/
> via https://ieee-uffc.org/about-us/history/uffc-s-history/
> and original at https://archive.org/details/bstj27-3-510
>
>
> If someone knows how to record any time/clock/navigation parts of PBS show 
> for non-US viewers let me know, off-list.
>
> /tvb
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Hal Murray" 
> To: 
> Cc: "Hal Murray" 
> Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 1:42 AM
> Subject: [time-nuts] PBS, Tue evening, The Secret of Tuxedo Park
>
>
>> (Sorry for the clutter to those of you outside the US.)
>>
>> http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/films/secret-tuxedo-park/
>> Two of the shorts mentions time.
>>
>> Many thanks for the Tuxedo Park book suggestion many years ago.
>>
>>
>> --
>> These are my opinions.  I hate spam.
>>
>
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Re: [time-nuts] PBS, Tue evening, The Secret of Tuxedo Park

2018-01-16 Thread paul swed
Hello to the group.
I did read the book several years ago. Its quite good and I had no idea
about any of this.
Sort of amazing.
So the fact that PBS is doing a show on this is going to be good to watch
tonight.
Thank you for sharing.
Regards
Paul
WB8TSL

On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 1:08 PM, Azelio Boriani 
wrote:

> >>...he would wear it on the outside of his wrist instead of the inside,
> so that gravity changed the rate of the tuning fork...
> Sort of manual turbillon...
>
> On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 4:04 PM, Tom Van Baak  wrote:
> > I can't stress enough how important Loomis was to the history of precise
> timekeeping in early radio, telephone, pendulum clock, quartz oscillator
> era. And for those of us who still have Loran-C receivers can thank him
> (Loomis Radio Navigation -> LRN -> Loran).
> >
> > So I highly recommend the 2003 book "Tuxedo Park" by Jennet Conant:
> > http://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Tuxedo-Park/Jennet-
> Conant/9780684872889
> >
> > Our kind of guy. In the "Palace of Science" chapter she writes: Loomis
> would remain a "time nut" for the rest of his life, according to Luis
> Alvarez, who recalled that Loomis always wore "two Accutrons--one on his
> right wrist and one on his left wrist." He would check them every day
> against WWV (the standard frequency broadcasting station of the National
> Bureau of Standards), and if one was gaining a half second on the other, he
> would wear it on the outside of his wrist instead of the inside, so that
> gravity changed the rate of the tuning fork and the two watches tracked
> each other, and WWV, "to within less than a second a day."
> >
> >
> >
> > Some other Loomis links of interest:
> >
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_Lee_Loomis
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LORAN
> > https://timeandnavigation.si.edu/navigating-air/navigation-
> at-war/new-era-in-time-and-navigation/alfred-loomis
> > http://www.ob-ultrasound.net/loomis.html
> > http://leapsecond.com/pages/loomis/
> >
> >
> > And the clever way to do time transfer and compare precision clocks to 1
> ms in the 1930's...
> >
> > http://leapsecond.com/pend/shortt/1931-RAS-Precise-
> Measurement-Time-Loomis.pdf
> >
> >
> > Also the classic "The Evolution of the Quartz Crystal Clock" by Warren
> A. Marrison:
> >
> > https://ieee-uffc.org/about-us/history/uffc-s-history/the-
> evolution-of-the-quartz-crystal-clock/
> > via https://ieee-uffc.org/about-us/history/uffc-s-history/
> > and original at https://archive.org/details/bstj27-3-510
> >
> >
> > If someone knows how to record any time/clock/navigation parts of PBS
> show for non-US viewers let me know, off-list.
> >
> > /tvb
> >
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Hal Murray" 
> > To: 
> > Cc: "Hal Murray" 
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 1:42 AM
> > Subject: [time-nuts] PBS, Tue evening, The Secret of Tuxedo Park
> >
> >
> >> (Sorry for the clutter to those of you outside the US.)
> >>
> >> http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/films/secret-tuxedo-park/
> >> Two of the shorts mentions time.
> >>
> >> Many thanks for the Tuxedo Park book suggestion many years ago.
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> These are my opinions.  I hate spam.
> >>
> >
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Re: [time-nuts] PBS, Tue evening, The Secret of Tuxedo Park

2018-01-16 Thread Bill Tracey
To record OTA television I use an HDHomeRun : 
https://www.silicondust.com/hdhomerun/


I'll grab tonight's run of The Secret of Tuxedo Park

Cheers,

Bill

At 09:04 AM 1/16/2018, you wrote:
I can't stress enough how important Loomis was to the history of 
precise timekeeping in early radio, telephone, pendulum clock, 
quartz oscillator era. And for those of us who still have Loran-C 
receivers can thank him (Loomis Radio Navigation -> LRN -> Loran).

.

If someone knows how to record any time/clock/navigation parts of 
PBS show for non-US viewers let me know, off-list.


/tvb


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Re: [time-nuts] PBS, Tue evening, The Secret of Tuxedo Park

2018-01-16 Thread Dana Whitlow
I could only afford a single Accutron, so I got in the habit of storing it
overnight in an orientation
estimated to correct bedtime error by wake up time.  I got pretty good at
it.

BTW thanks very much for the tip on the book- I must definitely get a copy.

Dana


On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 9:04 AM, Tom Van Baak  wrote:

> I can't stress enough how important Loomis was to the history of precise
> timekeeping in early radio, telephone, pendulum clock, quartz oscillator
> era. And for those of us who still have Loran-C receivers can thank him
> (Loomis Radio Navigation -> LRN -> Loran).
>
> So I highly recommend the 2003 book "Tuxedo Park" by Jennet Conant:
> http://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Tuxedo-Park/Jennet-
> Conant/9780684872889
>
> Our kind of guy. In the "Palace of Science" chapter she writes: Loomis
> would remain a "time nut" for the rest of his life, according to Luis
> Alvarez, who recalled that Loomis always wore "two Accutrons--one on his
> right wrist and one on his left wrist." He would check them every day
> against WWV (the standard frequency broadcasting station of the National
> Bureau of Standards), and if one was gaining a half second on the other, he
> would wear it on the outside of his wrist instead of the inside, so that
> gravity changed the rate of the tuning fork and the two watches tracked
> each other, and WWV, "to within less than a second a day."
>
>
>
> Some other Loomis links of interest:
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_Lee_Loomis
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LORAN
> https://timeandnavigation.si.edu/navigating-air/navigation-
> at-war/new-era-in-time-and-navigation/alfred-loomis
> http://www.ob-ultrasound.net/loomis.html
> http://leapsecond.com/pages/loomis/
>
>
> And the clever way to do time transfer and compare precision clocks to 1
> ms in the 1930's...
>
> http://leapsecond.com/pend/shortt/1931-RAS-Precise-
> Measurement-Time-Loomis.pdf
>
>
> Also the classic "The Evolution of the Quartz Crystal Clock" by Warren A.
> Marrison:
>
> https://ieee-uffc.org/about-us/history/uffc-s-history/the-
> evolution-of-the-quartz-crystal-clock/
> via https://ieee-uffc.org/about-us/history/uffc-s-history/
> and original at https://archive.org/details/bstj27-3-510
>
>
> If someone knows how to record any time/clock/navigation parts of PBS show
> for non-US viewers let me know, off-list.
>
> /tvb
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Hal Murray" 
> To: 
> Cc: "Hal Murray" 
> Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 1:42 AM
> Subject: [time-nuts] PBS, Tue evening, The Secret of Tuxedo Park
>
>
> > (Sorry for the clutter to those of you outside the US.)
> >
> > http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/films/secret-tuxedo-park/
> > Two of the shorts mentions time.
> >
> > Many thanks for the Tuxedo Park book suggestion many years ago.
> >
> >
> > --
> > These are my opinions.  I hate spam.
> >
>
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Re: [time-nuts] PBS, Tue evening, The Secret of Tuxedo Park

2018-01-16 Thread Joseph Gray
If you want to watch this episode online, go here:
http://video.unctv.org/video/3008204310

This is the UNC Public TV web site.

Joe Gray
W5JG



On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 2:28 PM, Bill Tracey  wrote:

> To record OTA television I use an HDHomeRun :
> https://www.silicondust.com/hdhomerun/
>
> I'll grab tonight's run of The Secret of Tuxedo Park
>
> Cheers,
>
> Bill
>
> At 09:04 AM 1/16/2018, you wrote:
>
>> I can't stress enough how important Loomis was to the history of precise
>> timekeeping in early radio, telephone, pendulum clock, quartz oscillator
>> era. And for those of us who still have Loran-C receivers can thank him
>> (Loomis Radio Navigation -> LRN -> Loran).
>> .
>>
>> If someone knows how to record any time/clock/navigation parts of PBS
>> show for non-US viewers let me know, off-list.
>>
>> /tvb
>>
>
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Re: [time-nuts] PBS, Tue evening, The Secret of Tuxedo Park

2018-01-16 Thread djl

pbs video player sucks big ones...

On 2018-01-16 18:47, Joseph Gray wrote:

If you want to watch this episode online, go here:
http://video.unctv.org/video/3008204310

This is the UNC Public TV web site.

Joe Gray
W5JG



On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 2:28 PM, Bill Tracey  wrote:


To record OTA television I use an HDHomeRun :
https://www.silicondust.com/hdhomerun/

I'll grab tonight's run of The Secret of Tuxedo Park

Cheers,

Bill

At 09:04 AM 1/16/2018, you wrote:

I can't stress enough how important Loomis was to the history of 
precise
timekeeping in early radio, telephone, pendulum clock, quartz 
oscillator
era. And for those of us who still have Loran-C receivers can thank 
him

(Loomis Radio Navigation -> LRN -> Loran).
.

If someone knows how to record any time/clock/navigation parts of PBS
show for non-US viewers let me know, off-list.

/tvb



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Re: [time-nuts] PBS, Tue evening, The Secret of Tuxedo Park

2018-01-16 Thread Joseph Gray
I watched the episode with only a few minor buffering issues. Considering
that I couldn't watch it on live TV, and the web video was free, I didn't
find any reason to complain.

Joe Gray
W5JG


On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 10:21 PM, djl  wrote:

> pbs video player sucks big ones...
>
> On 2018-01-16 18:47, Joseph Gray wrote:
>
>> If you want to watch this episode online, go here:
>> http://video.unctv.org/video/3008204310
>>
>> This is the UNC Public TV web site.
>>
>> Joe Gray
>> W5JG
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 2:28 PM, Bill Tracey  wrote:
>>
>> To record OTA television I use an HDHomeRun :
>>> https://www.silicondust.com/hdhomerun/
>>>
>>> I'll grab tonight's run of The Secret of Tuxedo Park
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
>>> At 09:04 AM 1/16/2018, you wrote:
>>>
>>> I can't stress enough how important Loomis was to the history of precise
 timekeeping in early radio, telephone, pendulum clock, quartz oscillator
 era. And for those of us who still have Loran-C receivers can thank him
 (Loomis Radio Navigation -> LRN -> Loran).
 .

 If someone knows how to record any time/clock/navigation parts of PBS
 show for non-US viewers let me know, off-list.

 /tvb


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Re: [time-nuts] PBS, Tue evening, The Secret of Tuxedo Park

2018-01-17 Thread Heinz Breuer
Thanks for the link. I watched it on the internet with my iPhone. I have to 
admit that I never heard of Alfred Lee Loomis before, maybe because he was not 
known in Germany.

OT: I have a fundamental problem with these kind of documentation as I always 
ask myself which movie sequence is real and authentic and what is staged 
(Hollywood style).
I would certainly appreciate if authentic sequences could be marked as 
authentic movie sequence.
Maybe it's just me as I retired my TV 26 years ago.
vy 73 Heinz DH2FA, KM5VT


Von meinem iPhone gesendet

> Am 17.01.2018 um 07:45 schrieb Joseph Gray :
> 
> I watched the episode with only a few minor buffering issues. Considering
> that I couldn't watch it on live TV, and the web video was free, I didn't
> find any reason to complain.
> 
> Joe Gray
> W5JG
> 
> 
>> On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 10:21 PM, djl  wrote:
>> 
>> pbs video player sucks big ones...
>> 
>>> On 2018-01-16 18:47, Joseph Gray wrote:
>>> 
>>> If you want to watch this episode online, go here:
>>> http://video.unctv.org/video/3008204310
>>> 
>>> This is the UNC Public TV web site.
>>> 
>>> Joe Gray
>>> W5JG
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 2:28 PM, Bill Tracey  wrote:
>>> 
>>> To record OTA television I use an HDHomeRun :
 https://www.silicondust.com/hdhomerun/
 
 I'll grab tonight's run of The Secret of Tuxedo Park
 
 Cheers,
 
 Bill
 
 At 09:04 AM 1/16/2018, you wrote:
 
 I can't stress enough how important Loomis was to the history of precise
> timekeeping in early radio, telephone, pendulum clock, quartz oscillator
> era. And for those of us who still have Loran-C receivers can thank him
> (Loomis Radio Navigation -> LRN -> Loran).
> .
> 
> If someone knows how to record any time/clock/navigation parts of PBS
> show for non-US viewers let me know, off-list.
> 
> /tvb
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Re: [time-nuts] PBS, Tue evening, The Secret of Tuxedo Park

2018-01-17 Thread EB4APL

Joe,
Thank you for the pointer. The regular web site don't allow the series 
to be viewed outside USA.


73 de Ignacio, EB4APL


El 17/01/2018 a las 2:47, Joseph Gray escribió:

If you want to watch this episode online, go here:
http://video.unctv.org/video/3008204310

This is the UNC Public TV web site.

Joe Gray
W5JG



On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 2:28 PM, Bill Tracey  wrote:


To record OTA television I use an HDHomeRun :
https://www.silicondust.com/hdhomerun/

I'll grab tonight's run of The Secret of Tuxedo Park

Cheers,

Bill

At 09:04 AM 1/16/2018, you wrote:


I can't stress enough how important Loomis was to the history of precise
timekeeping in early radio, telephone, pendulum clock, quartz oscillator
era. And for those of us who still have Loran-C receivers can thank him
(Loomis Radio Navigation -> LRN -> Loran).
.

If someone knows how to record any time/clock/navigation parts of PBS
show for non-US viewers let me know, off-list.

/tvb





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Re: [time-nuts] PBS, Tue evening, The Secret of Tuxedo Park

2018-01-17 Thread Heinz Breuer
The link worked perfectly in Germany.

vy 73 Heinz DH2FA, KM5VT

Von meinem iPhone gesendet

> Am 17.01.2018 um 15:48 schrieb EB4APL :
> 
> Joe,
> Thank you for the pointer. The regular web site don't allow the series to be 
> viewed outside USA.
> 
> 73 de Ignacio, EB4APL
> 
> 
>> El 17/01/2018 a las 2:47, Joseph Gray escribió:
>> If you want to watch this episode online, go here:
>> http://video.unctv.org/video/3008204310
>> 
>> This is the UNC Public TV web site.
>> 
>> Joe Gray
>> W5JG
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 2:28 PM, Bill Tracey  wrote:
>>> 
>>> To record OTA television I use an HDHomeRun :
>>> https://www.silicondust.com/hdhomerun/
>>> 
>>> I'll grab tonight's run of The Secret of Tuxedo Park
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Bill
>>> 
>>> At 09:04 AM 1/16/2018, you wrote:
>>> 
 I can't stress enough how important Loomis was to the history of precise
 timekeeping in early radio, telephone, pendulum clock, quartz oscillator
 era. And for those of us who still have Loran-C receivers can thank him
 (Loomis Radio Navigation -> LRN -> Loran).
 .
 
 If someone knows how to record any time/clock/navigation parts of PBS
 show for non-US viewers let me know, off-list.
 
 /tvb
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Re: [time-nuts] PBS, Tue evening, The Secret of Tuxedo Park

2018-01-17 Thread David G. McGaw
Here is the PBS website which includes the full video: 
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/films/secret-tuxedo-park/#part01


David N1HAC


On 1/16/18 1:14 PM, paul swed wrote:

Hello to the group.
I did read the book several years ago. Its quite good and I had no idea
about any of this.
Sort of amazing.
So the fact that PBS is doing a show on this is going to be good to watch
tonight.
Thank you for sharing.
Regards
Paul
WB8TSL

On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 1:08 PM, Azelio Boriani 
wrote:


...he would wear it on the outside of his wrist instead of the inside,

so that gravity changed the rate of the tuning fork...
Sort of manual turbillon...

On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 4:04 PM, Tom Van Baak  wrote:

I can't stress enough how important Loomis was to the history of precise

timekeeping in early radio, telephone, pendulum clock, quartz oscillator
era. And for those of us who still have Loran-C receivers can thank him
(Loomis Radio Navigation -> LRN -> Loran).

So I highly recommend the 2003 book "Tuxedo Park" by Jennet Conant:
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.simonandschuster.com%2Fbooks%2FTuxedo-Park%2FJennet-&data=02%7C01%7Cdavid.g.mcgaw%40dartmouth.edu%7C2baf103d9c32419fccc108d55d0d047f%7C995b093648d640e5a31ebf689ec9446f%7C0%7C0%7C636517232850475383&sdata=qFPSaqAEbfKwjfSO9D76XsqMfIm91Kw6eZuKLsmTvqo%3D&reserved=0

Conant/9780684872889

Our kind of guy. In the "Palace of Science" chapter she writes: Loomis

would remain a "time nut" for the rest of his life, according to Luis
Alvarez, who recalled that Loomis always wore "two Accutrons--one on his
right wrist and one on his left wrist." He would check them every day
against WWV (the standard frequency broadcasting station of the National
Bureau of Standards), and if one was gaining a half second on the other, he
would wear it on the outside of his wrist instead of the inside, so that
gravity changed the rate of the tuning fork and the two watches tracked
each other, and WWV, "to within less than a second a day."



Some other Loomis links of interest:

https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FAlfred_Lee_Loomis&data=02%7C01%7Cdavid.g.mcgaw%40dartmouth.edu%7C2baf103d9c32419fccc108d55d0d047f%7C995b093648d640e5a31ebf689ec9446f%7C0%7C0%7C636517232850475383&sdata=%2FkxpYWQyHhOGfAPH6N6enMskObQhtRzC8oK5j0sZLFk%3D&reserved=0
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FLORAN&data=02%7C01%7Cdavid.g.mcgaw%40dartmouth.edu%7C2baf103d9c32419fccc108d55d0d047f%7C995b093648d640e5a31ebf689ec9446f%7C0%7C0%7C636517232850475383&sdata=ijMVI04uZM0eTrbLuv4mUY%2B083xMfjWbNpZ3MTc7t9c%3D&reserved=0
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Ftimeandnavigation.si.edu%2Fnavigating-air%2Fnavigation-&data=02%7C01%7Cdavid.g.mcgaw%40dartmouth.edu%7C2baf103d9c32419fccc108d55d0d047f%7C995b093648d640e5a31ebf689ec9446f%7C0%7C0%7C636517232850475383&sdata=jYgt%2FrAP8cQKLvF9R4nVZG3k6nKUJzbJnJTzOcM5UAM%3D&reserved=0

at-war/new-era-in-time-and-navigation/alfred-loomis

https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ob-ultrasound.net%2Floomis.html&data=02%7C01%7Cdavid.g.mcgaw%40dartmouth.edu%7C2baf103d9c32419fccc108d55d0d047f%7C995b093648d640e5a31ebf689ec9446f%7C0%7C0%7C636517232850475383&sdata=GWqcRU3I3aUBiLOIE5Mw3Ei0YcSjgWIkZbUYIzlR%2FFw%3D&reserved=0
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fleapsecond.com%2Fpages%2Floomis%2F&data=02%7C01%7Cdavid.g.mcgaw%40dartmouth.edu%7C2baf103d9c32419fccc108d55d0d047f%7C995b093648d640e5a31ebf689ec9446f%7C0%7C0%7C636517232850475383&sdata=ClO8gkx05Vq6qhDr5hkYYiwUO8na8HA1%2FYjNAGWuNZk%3D&reserved=0


And the clever way to do time transfer and compare precision clocks to 1

ms in the 1930's...

https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fleapsecond.com%2Fpend%2Fshortt%2F1931-RAS-Precise-&data=02%7C01%7Cdavid.g.mcgaw%40dartmouth.edu%7C2baf103d9c32419fccc108d55d0d047f%7C995b093648d640e5a31ebf689ec9446f%7C0%7C0%7C636517232850475383&sdata=q9iz56t67V0%2BwCYEVnkAtHxpVPLT3WeJo9Q%2FECXznzU%3D&reserved=0

Measurement-Time-Loomis.pdf


Also the classic "The Evolution of the Quartz Crystal Clock" by Warren

A. Marrison:

https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fieee-uffc.org%2Fabout-us%2Fhistory%2Fuffc-s-history%2Fthe-&data=02%7C01%7Cdavid.g.mcgaw%40dartmouth.edu%7C2baf103d9c32419fccc108d55d0d047f%7C995b093648d640e5a31ebf689ec9446f%7C0%7C0%7C636517232850475383&sdata=%2Fhbhe1nN0EpFHrUC9lbFRX8vdOzsqVFh7K6pkUncVQ0%3D&reserved=0

evolution-of-the-quartz-crystal-clock/

via 
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fieee-uffc.org%2Fabout-us%2Fhistory%2Fuffc-s-history%2F&data=02%7C01%7Cdavid.g.mcgaw%40dartmouth.edu%7C2baf103d9c32419fccc108d55d0d047f%7C995b093648d640e5a31ebf689ec9446f%7C0%7C0%7C636517232850475383&sdata=gkQ3dzxJODXSS2QoxyZ9pCDH%2FvMNByXOxXDkbWelwDE%3D&reserved=0
and original at 
https://na01.safelinks.protec

Re: [time-nuts] PBS, Tue evening, The Secret of Tuxedo Park

2018-01-17 Thread Bill Metzenthen
It also worked in Australia last night.  I watched a few minutes and 
decided to watch the rest today.  Unfortunately, it is now geo-blocked 
:-(  It's also blocked on the PBS site.



On 18/01/18 02:09, Heinz Breuer wrote:

The link worked perfectly in Germany.

vy 73 Heinz DH2FA, KM5VT

Von meinem iPhone gesendet


Am 17.01.2018 um 15:48 schrieb EB4APL :

Joe,
Thank you for the pointer. The regular web site don't allow the series to be 
viewed outside USA.

73 de Ignacio, EB4APL



El 17/01/2018 a las 2:47, Joseph Gray escribió:
If you want to watch this episode online, go here:
http://video.unctv.org/video/3008204310

This is the UNC Public TV web site.

Joe Gray
W5JG




On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 2:28 PM, Bill Tracey  wrote:

To record OTA television I use an HDHomeRun :
https://www.silicondust.com/hdhomerun/

I'll grab tonight's run of The Secret of Tuxedo Park

Cheers,

Bill

At 09:04 AM 1/16/2018, you wrote:


I can't stress enough how important Loomis was to the history of precise
timekeeping in early radio, telephone, pendulum clock, quartz oscillator
era. And for those of us who still have Loran-C receivers can thank him
(Loomis Radio Navigation -> LRN -> Loran).
.

If someone knows how to record any time/clock/navigation parts of PBS
show for non-US viewers let me know, off-list.

/tvb

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Re: [time-nuts] PBS, Tue evening, The Secret of Tuxedo Park

2018-01-17 Thread Adrian Godwin
Joe's link worked for me earlier this afternoon in the UK, but is blocked
now at 10pm local time.
Glad I watched it when I could !


On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 10:00 PM, Bill Metzenthen 
wrote:

> It also worked in Australia last night.  I watched a few minutes and
> decided to watch the rest today.  Unfortunately, it is now geo-blocked :-(
> It's also blocked on the PBS site.
>
>
>
> On 18/01/18 02:09, Heinz Breuer wrote:
>
>> The link worked perfectly in Germany.
>>
>> vy 73 Heinz DH2FA, KM5VT
>>
>> Von meinem iPhone gesendet
>>
>> Am 17.01.2018 um 15:48 schrieb EB4APL :
>>>
>>> Joe,
>>> Thank you for the pointer. The regular web site don't allow the series
>>> to be viewed outside USA.
>>>
>>> 73 de Ignacio, EB4APL
>>>
>>>
>>> El 17/01/2018 a las 2:47, Joseph Gray escribió:
 If you want to watch this episode online, go here:
 http://video.unctv.org/video/3008204310

 This is the UNC Public TV web site.

 Joe Gray
 W5JG



 On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 2:28 PM, Bill Tracey  wrote:
>
> To record OTA television I use an HDHomeRun :
> https://www.silicondust.com/hdhomerun/
>
> I'll grab tonight's run of The Secret of Tuxedo Park
>
> Cheers,
>
> Bill
>
> At 09:04 AM 1/16/2018, you wrote:
>
> I can't stress enough how important Loomis was to the history of
>> precise
>> timekeeping in early radio, telephone, pendulum clock, quartz
>> oscillator
>> era. And for those of us who still have Loran-C receivers can thank
>> him
>> (Loomis Radio Navigation -> LRN -> Loran).
>> .
>>
>> If someone knows how to record any time/clock/navigation parts of PBS
>> show for non-US viewers let me know, off-list.
>>
>> /tvb
>>
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Re: [time-nuts] PBS, Tue evening, The Secret of Tuxedo Park

2018-01-17 Thread Heinz Breuer
In Europe there is a good chance that the French/German cultural public TV 
Station "arte" will rebroadcast it via ASTRA satellite some day. arte shows a 
lot of PBS documentations.

vy 73 Heinz DH2FA, KM5VT

Von meinem iPhone gesendet

> Am 17.01.2018 um 23:07 schrieb Adrian Godwin :
> 
> Joe's link worked for me earlier this afternoon in the UK, but is blocked
> now at 10pm local time.
> Glad I watched it when I could !
> 
> 
> On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 10:00 PM, Bill Metzenthen 
> wrote:
> 
>> It also worked in Australia last night.  I watched a few minutes and
>> decided to watch the rest today.  Unfortunately, it is now geo-blocked :-(
>> It's also blocked on the PBS site.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 18/01/18 02:09, Heinz Breuer wrote:
>>> 
>>> The link worked perfectly in Germany.
>>> 
>>> vy 73 Heinz DH2FA, KM5VT
>>> 
>>> Von meinem iPhone gesendet
>>> 
 Am 17.01.2018 um 15:48 schrieb EB4APL :
 
 Joe,
 Thank you for the pointer. The regular web site don't allow the series
 to be viewed outside USA.
 
 73 de Ignacio, EB4APL
 
 
> El 17/01/2018 a las 2:47, Joseph Gray escribió:
> If you want to watch this episode online, go here:
> http://video.unctv.org/video/3008204310
> 
> This is the UNC Public TV web site.
> 
> Joe Gray
> W5JG
> 
> 
> 
>> On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 2:28 PM, Bill Tracey  wrote:
>> 
>> To record OTA television I use an HDHomeRun :
>> https://www.silicondust.com/hdhomerun/
>> 
>> I'll grab tonight's run of The Secret of Tuxedo Park
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Bill
>> 
>> At 09:04 AM 1/16/2018, you wrote:
>> 
>> I can't stress enough how important Loomis was to the history of
>>> precise
>>> timekeeping in early radio, telephone, pendulum clock, quartz
>>> oscillator
>>> era. And for those of us who still have Loran-C receivers can thank
>>> him
>>> (Loomis Radio Navigation -> LRN -> Loran).
>>> .
>>> 
>>> If someone knows how to record any time/clock/navigation parts of PBS
>>> show for non-US viewers let me know, off-list.
>>> 
>>> /tvb
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Re: [time-nuts] PBS, Tue evening, The Secret of Tuxedo Park

2018-01-17 Thread David Smith
If you have a low cost VPN account, you just need to connect to a server 
located in the US. Then you can watch it from where ever.

Dave W6TE

-Original Message-
From: time-nuts [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Heinz Breuer
Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 5:17 PM
To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement 
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] PBS, Tue evening, The Secret of Tuxedo Park

In Europe there is a good chance that the French/German cultural public TV 
Station "arte" will rebroadcast it via ASTRA satellite some day. arte shows a 
lot of PBS documentations.

vy 73 Heinz DH2FA, KM5VT

Von meinem iPhone gesendet

> Am 17.01.2018 um 23:07 schrieb Adrian Godwin :
> 
> Joe's link worked for me earlier this afternoon in the UK, but is 
> blocked now at 10pm local time.
> Glad I watched it when I could !
> 
> 
> On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 10:00 PM, Bill Metzenthen 
> wrote:
> 
>> It also worked in Australia last night.  I watched a few minutes and 
>> decided to watch the rest today.  Unfortunately, it is now 
>> geo-blocked :-( It's also blocked on the PBS site.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 18/01/18 02:09, Heinz Breuer wrote:
>>> 
>>> The link worked perfectly in Germany.
>>> 
>>> vy 73 Heinz DH2FA, KM5VT
>>> 
>>> Von meinem iPhone gesendet
>>> 
>>>> Am 17.01.2018 um 15:48 schrieb EB4APL :
>>>> 
>>>> Joe,
>>>> Thank you for the pointer. The regular web site don't allow the 
>>>> series to be viewed outside USA.
>>>> 
>>>> 73 de Ignacio, EB4APL
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> El 17/01/2018 a las 2:47, Joseph Gray escribió:
>>>>> If you want to watch this episode online, go here:
>>>>> https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fv
>>>>> ideo.unctv.org%2Fvideo%2F3008204310&data=02%7C01%7C%7C9ce35d569ce8
>>>>> 4cceb66b08d55e119ca7%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C
>>>>> 636518352086759489&sdata=CG1xCfztOS%2BdTuCo%2Bgd%2BQm%2BYffg%2FARL
>>>>> W%2BcN4sh2gRMw%3D&reserved=0
>>>>> 
>>>>> This is the UNC Public TV web site.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Joe Gray
>>>>> W5JG
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 2:28 PM, Bill Tracey  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> To record OTA television I use an HDHomeRun :
>>>>>> https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2
>>>>>> Fwww.silicondust.com%2Fhdhomerun%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7C9ce35d569ce
>>>>>> 84cceb66b08d55e119ca7%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%
>>>>>> 7C636518352086759489&sdata=A93GBtLd7vrNcz58i9QQdiIEnfPmIzg7wkNAtk
>>>>>> Dn5hc%3D&reserved=0
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I'll grab tonight's run of The Secret of Tuxedo Park
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Bill
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> At 09:04 AM 1/16/2018, you wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I can't stress enough how important Loomis was to the history of
>>>>>>> precise
>>>>>>> timekeeping in early radio, telephone, pendulum clock, quartz 
>>>>>>> oscillator era. And for those of us who still have Loran-C 
>>>>>>> receivers can thank him (Loomis Radio Navigation -> LRN -> 
>>>>>>> Loran).
>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> If someone knows how to record any time/clock/navigation parts 
>>>>>>> of PBS show for non-US viewers let me know, off-list.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> /tvb
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