Re: [time-nuts] GPDSO Distribution amp that does not radiate ?

2019-07-14 Thread Glen English VK1XX
This sounds like a shield is not connected , or broken on one of the 
distribution cables.


The 10 MHz will not appreciably leak from half decent coax properly 
terminated.


The 10 MHz should not be detectable unless a wire is coupled directly on 
the coax braid.


That assumes the 10 MHz source itself is well shielded and all wires 
that enter or exit are firewalled .


is this an attempt to distribute square or sine wave 10 MHz ?

-glen


On 14/07/2019 2:53 AM, Jerry O. Stern wrote:

I have been using a Tbolt and TAPR TADD-1 for a few years, mainly as an
external reference source for my workbench equipment.  Just got a SDR radio
kit (Ubitx) and trying to calibrate the local oscillators found this
annoying substantial 10MHz signal heterodyning with the LO's (45MHz and
12MHz).   Taking a look on my SA with just a broad band telescopic antenna
in the SA input, I see a 10MHZ at about -55 dBm and no other signals > -120
dBm.  The Tbolt is about 4-5' away from the workbench BUT I disconnected
everything and it is only connected to the TADD-1 distribution amplifier
The TADD has no distribution coaxes attached, it is in the TAPR metal
cabinet which I always thought was well shielded and every port has been
terminated with 50 Ohm  dummy load plugs.  When I take the TADD-1 out of the
equation and just run the Tbolt into a 50 ohm termination plug, the 10MHz
signal on my SA drops down to  > -90 dBM. I duplicated this with a
Lucent RFTGm-Xo/Rb pair and the TADD-1 with similar results.Has anyone
else seen this with their distribution amp?

  


Jerry

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Re: [time-nuts] Control and monitor program for Spectracom 8195B

2019-07-14 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi

My solution is to kidnap Mark’s pet goldfish and hold it captive until the 
specific device
is incorporated into LH …. :).  In the case of expensive or rare gear lending 
out a
device might get things going faster than the goldfish maneuver ….

Bob

> On Jul 14, 2019, at 4:06 AM, Hal Murray  wrote:
> 
> 
>> I have so many GPSDOs now that I cannot possibly remember command for each.
> 
> My solution for that is to keep a small text file with minimal notes on how 
> things work and chunks of text that I can copy/paste.
> 
> Sometimes, I include URLs for where I found good info.
> 
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Re: [time-nuts] Galileo service currently degraded

2019-07-14 Thread John Ackermann. N8UR
Having just been through the endian issue with a similar parser, I'll mention 
that in Python the struct.unpack() function can handle endian swaps at tne same 
time as it pulls binary data out of the message.  It makes it pretty painless.

On Jul 13, 2019, 11:08 PM, at 11:08 PM, Mark Sims  wrote:
>Lady Heather is open source and has parsers/decoders for just about any
>receiver you are likely to see... and a few that your aren't.One
>big issue with binary protocols is handling big/little endian (byte
>order) issues when reading messages or sending them to the device.  You
>need to be aware of what the system CPU uses and what the receiver
>uses.
>
>
>
>>  One alternative, if you only need two lines is to write a parser
>just for them. 
>There’s not a whole lot to the protocol and the uBlox doc’s are pretty
>good at
>describing it. Yes, it’s a binary protocol so there will be a bit of
>this and that
>involved. 
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Re: [time-nuts] Galileo service currently degraded

2019-07-14 Thread MLewis

Super slow from Canada too. Does eventually respond.
They might be seeing a little more traffic than they usually get...

On 14/07/2019 3:49 AM, Bj??rn wrote:

InsideGNSS is responding really slow (only from Sweden?) My phone browsers gave 
up. My computer Mozilla finally got it.

/Bj??rn


On 14 Jul 2019, at 08:24, Leif Johansson  wrote:

That site seems to be down now

Skickat fr??n min iPhone


14 juli 2019 kl. 00:14 skrev Michael Wouters :

The Galileo outage is being attributed to problems at the Precise Timing
Facility in Italy

https://insidegnss.com/update-galileo-service-degraded-on-all-satellites-precise-timing-facility-problems-cited/

Cheers
Michael



On Sun, 14 Jul 2019 at 7:06 am, Mark Sims  wrote:

The satellite tracking / health  info is sent by the receiver.  Heather
just reports what the receiver is sending.

Oh, and the Galileo system status has changed from "degraded" to "service
outage".

https://www.gsc-europa.eu/system-status/Constellation-Information

What is amazing is that I can find no other reports that the system is
down.  Also how such a long and severe outage could happen.  I expect heads
will be rolling...

--


What prompts Heather to mark visible satellites as yellow, and not use

them?
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Re: [time-nuts] Control and monitor program for Spectracom 8195B

2019-07-14 Thread Hal Murray


> I have so many GPSDOs now that I cannot possibly remember command for each.

My solution for that is to keep a small text file with minimal notes on how 
things work and chunks of text that I can copy/paste.

Sometimes, I include URLs for where I found good info.


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Re: [time-nuts] Galileo service currently degraded

2019-07-14 Thread David J Taylor via time-nuts
-Original Message- 
From: Leif Johansson

Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2019 7:24 AM
To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Galileo service currently degraded

That site seems to be down now

=

See:

 
https://web.archive.org/web/20190714012836/https://insidegnss.com/galileo-interruptus/

Cheers,
David
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Re: [time-nuts] Galileo service currently degraded

2019-07-14 Thread Björn
InsideGNSS is responding really slow (only from Sweden?) My phone browsers gave 
up. My computer Mozilla finally got it.

/Björn 

> On 14 Jul 2019, at 08:24, Leif Johansson  wrote:
> 
> That site seems to be down now
> 
> Skickat från min iPhone
> 
>> 14 juli 2019 kl. 00:14 skrev Michael Wouters :
>> 
>> The Galileo outage is being attributed to problems at the Precise Timing
>> Facility in Italy
>> 
>> https://insidegnss.com/update-galileo-service-degraded-on-all-satellites-precise-timing-facility-problems-cited/
>> 
>> Cheers
>> Michael
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sun, 14 Jul 2019 at 7:06 am, Mark Sims  wrote:
>>> 
>>> The satellite tracking / health  info is sent by the receiver.  Heather
>>> just reports what the receiver is sending.
>>> 
>>> Oh, and the Galileo system status has changed from "degraded" to "service
>>> outage".
>>> 
>>> https://www.gsc-europa.eu/system-status/Constellation-Information
>>> 
>>> What is amazing is that I can find no other reports that the system is
>>> down.  Also how such a long and severe outage could happen.  I expect heads
>>> will be rolling...
>>> 
>>> --
>>> 
 What prompts Heather to mark visible satellites as yellow, and not use
>>> them?
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Re: [time-nuts] Galileo service currently degraded

2019-07-14 Thread Björn

> On 14 Jul 2019, at 00:25, Mark Sims  wrote:
> 
> A report that the outage is due to a failure at the Galileo "precise time 
> facility" in Italy.  It has all their cesiums and a maser.   Hmmm... no 
> backup facility... sounds like a recipe for disaster?  

To my knowledge both Italian and German control centers have an identical PTF. 
Do you have any reference to there not being an PTF at Oberpfaffenhofen?

Additional there are backup service from some European national UTC labs. Don’t 
know if this is “online backup” if neither control center has working time.

Still failover has obviously not worked - if the PTF(s) were at fault - as per 
Insidegnss...

Also note that Galileo operational service levels are incrementing from Initial 
Service (where we are now), to Enhanced Service (hopefully soon), to IOC and 
finally FOC.

> Service outage may last over 90 hours.

Can Galileo absorb this within the service level stated in Initial Service 
documents?

https://www.gsc-europa.eu/system/files/documents/Galileo-OS-SDD.pdf

(Page 26) Availability of OS UTC service - >87% over 30days. Equals outage of 
3.9days (93.6h) for a 30 day period.

/Björn 
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Re: [time-nuts] Galileo service currently degraded

2019-07-14 Thread Leif Johansson
That site seems to be down now

Skickat från min iPhone

> 14 juli 2019 kl. 00:14 skrev Michael Wouters :
> 
> The Galileo outage is being attributed to problems at the Precise Timing
> Facility in Italy
> 
> https://insidegnss.com/update-galileo-service-degraded-on-all-satellites-precise-timing-facility-problems-cited/
> 
> Cheers
> Michael
> 
> 
>> On Sun, 14 Jul 2019 at 7:06 am, Mark Sims  wrote:
>> 
>> The satellite tracking / health  info is sent by the receiver.  Heather
>> just reports what the receiver is sending.
>> 
>> Oh, and the Galileo system status has changed from "degraded" to "service
>> outage".
>> 
>> https://www.gsc-europa.eu/system-status/Constellation-Information
>> 
>> What is amazing is that I can find no other reports that the system is
>> down.  Also how such a long and severe outage could happen.  I expect heads
>> will be rolling...
>> 
>> --
>> 
>>> What prompts Heather to mark visible satellites as yellow, and not use
>> them?
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