[time-nuts] Free equipment cart for anyone willing to pick it up at near Orlando, Florida, USA

2020-03-11 Thread Taka Kamiya via time-nuts
I have a "Tek Lab Cart Model 3" in pretty nice shape available for FREE.  The 
only caviet is, you must come and pick it up yourself.  I live in Zip Code 
32703 which is near Orlando, Florida, USA.  I cannot ship this.  Please contact 
me off list, if interested.

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(Mr.) Taka Kamiya
KB4EMF / ex JF2DKG
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Re: [time-nuts] ESE ES-161

2020-03-11 Thread Gregory Beat via time-nuts
The ESE manuals have schematic diagram, Pictorial of parts layout on PCB, and 
full parts list — including the options.  The parts list references internal 
ESE # and the OEM supplier’s part number ... so you can populate hardware for 
an option.  In some cases for legacy ESE products, that OEM part may be 
discontinued (hence reason for new updated design).

gb

> On Mar 11, 2020, at 2:46 PM, Frederick Bray  wrote:
> 
> 
> Thanks for all the suggestions. I did get the publicly available manuals but 
> they lack the parts layout.
> 
> I’ll go through the more formal request process for the more detailed manual.
> 
>  Fortunately, I have a similar unit but a different model and PC board.  
> However, I figured out where the most important DIP switch goes and tested 
> this by jumping the contacts.  That lets me set the  time offset and 12/24 
> hour functions.  It would be nice to add the date option, but that might take 
> more components.
> 
> KE6CD
> 
>>> On Mar 11, 2020, at 10:14 AM, Gregory Beat  wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> You can download the manuals for current production ESE products, from their 
>> web site (under the specific product page).  They require ID for this step.
>> 
>> For older or legacy ESE product manuals and enclosed schematic/board layout,
>> you can contact ESE support for that manual/information at +1 310-322-2136 
>> or send a direct e-mail to e...@ese-web.com.  
>> ESE may ask for serial number of this product.  The reason for this request 
>> is their customization work (firmware EPROM or hardware option) for 
>> broadcast industry & military/government clients and they note this 
>> internally (support) by that SN.
>> 
>> I usually deal with Monica Trotter at ESE.
>> 
>> g.beat
>> w9gb
>> ==
>> Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2020 23:01:57 -0700
>> From: Frederick Bray 
>> To: time-nuts@lists.febo.com
>> Subject: [time-nuts] ESE ES-161
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Does anyone have the manual for the ESE ES-161 display?
>> 
>> I'm looking to add the DIP switch that permits certain options to be 
>> configured, but I'd like to be sure that I install it in the correct place.
>> Many thanks.
>> 
>> KE6CD
>> 
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[time-nuts] Buying and using used Cesium Beam Standards

2020-03-11 Thread Skip Withrow
Hello Forrest,
Your question regarding prolonging cesium tube life is very valid and
has several answers depending on the particular situation.  I can
remember asking exactly the same question to the list many years ago.

For the 5061A/B the answer is relatively simple.  There is a 'Cs Off'
switch position that turns every thing to the tube off except the
vac-ion pump.  This does not shorten the tube life in any way, and
keeps the unit ready to use (after the Cs oven warm-up time).  The
downside is that you are burning power continuously to keep all the
other circuitry powered.  It still may take a week or so for the unit
to reach its ultimate stability.

Another alternative is to keep the unit powered off and just turn it
on ever now and then to keep the tube pumped down, as Taka has
suggested.  I have a Datum PRS-50 that I treat this way (there is no
way to just maintain the vac-ion pump).

Another option is to keep the unit in storage and only power on when
needed.  This can take considerable time to pump down the tube
depending on how 'leaky' it is and how much Cs is floating around
inside.  Some units I have seen pump down within minutes/hours, others
may take weeks (and I have even had them work afterwards).  Of course,
once you get the unit locked it still may take a considerable time to
reach thermal equilibrium and its ultimate stability.

Bottom line is - if the Cs oven is running, so is the clock on your tube.

Regards,
Skip Withrow

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Re: [time-nuts] ESE ES-161

2020-03-11 Thread Frederick Bray
Thanks for all the suggestions. I did get the publicly available manuals but 
they lack the parts layout.

I’ll go through the more formal request process for the more detailed manual.

 Fortunately, I have a similar unit but a different model and PC board.  
However, I figured out where the most important DIP switch goes and tested this 
by jumping the contacts.  That lets me set the  time offset and 12/24 hour 
functions.  It would be nice to add the date option, but that might take more 
components.

KE6CD

> On Mar 11, 2020, at 10:14 AM, Gregory Beat  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> You can download the manuals for current production ESE products, from their 
> web site (under the specific product page).  They require ID for this step.
> 
> For older or legacy ESE product manuals and enclosed schematic/board layout,
> you can contact ESE support for that manual/information at +1 310-322-2136 or 
> send a direct e-mail to e...@ese-web.com.  
> ESE may ask for serial number of this product.  The reason for this request 
> is their customization work (firmware EPROM or hardware option) for broadcast 
> industry & military/government clients and they note this internally 
> (support) by that SN.
> 
> I usually deal with Monica Trotter at ESE.
> 
> g.beat
> w9gb
> ==
> Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2020 23:01:57 -0700
> From: Frederick Bray 
> To: time-nuts@lists.febo.com
> Subject: [time-nuts] ESE ES-161
> Hi,
> 
> Does anyone have the manual for the ESE ES-161 display?
> 
> I'm looking to add the DIP switch that permits certain options to be 
> configured, but I'd like to be sure that I install it in the correct place.
> Many thanks.
> 
> KE6CD
> 
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Re: [time-nuts] ESE ES-161

2020-03-11 Thread Gregory Beat via time-nuts

You can download the manuals for current production ESE products, from their 
web site (under the specific product page).  They require ID for this step.

For older or legacy ESE product manuals and enclosed schematic/board layout,
you can contact ESE support for that manual/information at +1 310-322-2136 or 
send a direct e-mail to e...@ese-web.com.  
ESE may ask for serial number of this product.  The reason for this request is 
their customization work (firmware EPROM or hardware option) for broadcast 
industry & military/government clients and they note this internally (support) 
by that SN.

I usually deal with Monica Trotter at ESE.

g.beat
w9gb
==
Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2020 23:01:57 -0700
From: Frederick Bray 
To: time-nuts@lists.febo.com
Subject: [time-nuts] ESE ES-161
Hi,

Does anyone have the manual for the ESE ES-161 display?

I'm looking to add the DIP switch that permits certain options to be 
configured, but I'd like to be sure that I install it in the correct place.
Many thanks.

KE6CD

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[time-nuts] Trueposition GPSDO - patience is a virtue

2020-03-11 Thread Skip Withrow
Hello Time-Nuts,
Wow, what a difference a day makes.  Seems that the Trueposition GPSDO
has a fairly low gain/long time constant in the 'normal' mode of
operation.  So, at startup it could not keep up with the oscillator
drift.  This led to it dropping into the 'acquire' mode which has
higher gain/shorter time constant to reset the phase.

Once the OCXO drift slowed down the 'normal' loop operation was able
to handle things without a problem and it has been running in that
mode continuously now.  I have attached the 24 hours since start up of
the 10MHz output.  Yesterday's attachment was just the first couple of
cycles of the reset.  They did indeed slow down as the oscillator
drift slowed down, and after a few hours there were no more resets.

Regards,
Skip Withrow
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[time-nuts] ESE ES-161

2020-03-11 Thread Frederick Bray

Hi,

Does anyone have the manual for the ESE ES-161 display?

I'm looking to add the DIP switch that permits certain options to be 
configured, but I'd like to be sure that I install it in the correct place.


Many thanks.

KE6CD



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