[time-nuts] Re: Thunderbolts ...

2021-07-18 Thread djl

Newer module:  $650.00   meh

On 2021-07-17 19:45, Gary E. Miller wrote:

Yo Dave!

On Sat, 17 Jul 2021 00:06:42 +0100
Dave  wrote:


I'm a bit of a newbie at this, but is it possible to buy thunderbolts


WHy?  They newer Trimble GNSS timing modules work beter.  Like the ICM 
SMT 360:


https://timing.trimble.com/products/gnss-receivers/icm-smt-360-multi-gnss-timing-module/


If so, where ?


Hobbyist GNSS receivers are in short supply.  You gotta look harder 
than

before COVID.

An ICM SMT 360 on a carrier board is $125:

https://novotech.com/icm-smt-360-337.html

RGDS
GARY
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[time-nuts] Re: Thunderbolts ...

2021-07-18 Thread Gary E. Miller
Yo Dave!

On Sat, 17 Jul 2021 00:06:42 +0100
Dave  wrote:

> I'm a bit of a newbie at this, but is it possible to buy thunderbolts

WHy?  They newer Trimble GNSS timing modules work beter.  Like the ICM SMT 360:

https://timing.trimble.com/products/gnss-receivers/icm-smt-360-multi-gnss-timing-module/

> If so, where ?

Hobbyist GNSS receivers are in short supply.  You gotta look harder than
before COVID.

An ICM SMT 360 on a carrier board is $125:

https://novotech.com/icm-smt-360-337.html

RGDS
GARY
---
Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703
g...@rellim.com  Tel:+1 541 382 8588

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[time-nuts] Re: RTC DS3231: how well can it be regulated?

2021-07-18 Thread ASSI
On Sonntag, 18. Juli 2021 04:06:56 CEST Tim S wrote:
> I did want to pose the question, are you aware of the existence
> of DS1341/DS1342 RTCs? These parts have a 1pps (or power-line 50/60Hzr
> following built-in.

On these chips the PPS alignment is done by selecting an edge from a 128Hz 
division of the XTAL input, which is always completely free-running.  This 
results in a skew window of almost 8ms on the PPS pulse and large deviations 
in holdover.  So while I can see them working very well for a different 
application, that's not what I was looking for.

The DS3231M can be tuned from the datasheet value of ±5ppm or about half a 
second per day to around 15ms/day holdover.  I have one module lying around 
that I set up a year ago and then disconnected to let it run on battery.  
Based on the experience with the active one over that same year (which you've 
seen the plots of) I think it should still be within 30s when I eventually 
connect it again, which would be absolutely amazing considering the price of 
these modules.
 

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[time-nuts] Re: Assistance Please- need atomic clock time datasets for study

2021-07-18 Thread Ole Petter Ronningen
The BIPM Circular-T would be a good place to start. 30s phase data used to
be available from each participating lab IIRC - they just updated their
webpages, so that may have been moved out of the public eye.

BR,
Ole

On Sat, Jul 17, 2021 at 9:17 PM Dwayne 
wrote:

>Fellow Time-nuts;
>I am working on an interesting research project focused on the phase
>relationship of error accumulation across geographically dispersed
>clocks.
>Early research shows some correlation, but I need access to larger
>datasets. (Fine grained data log of precision clocks, indexed to an
>international time standard)
>Can anyone on this list help point me to a helpful data source?
>A ideal data set would consist of years worth of clock samples, from
>multiple atomic clocks that are geographically dispersed, at fixed
>locations.
>I can adjust my project somewhat in order to accommodate available
>data, so any insight from this audience is welcome.
>Key is that the data should come from multiple clocks (three as
>minimum- more =better), and the data must cover a simultaneous time
>period.
>I can use data from a single clock, and pair it with others, provided
>the collection dates overlap.
>Sources?
>Thanks in advance.
>Dwayne Esterline
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