Re: [time-nuts] Cloudflare

2019-06-22 Thread Aanchal Malhotra
On Sat, Jun 22, 2019 at 11:02 AM Didier Juges  wrote:

> Wow, what a well written article.
>

Thanks!

>
> I have been using Cloudflare's DNS service since it was introduced.
> Absolutely no issues whatsoever. These people are top notch.
> I anticipate this new service will be as well.
>

Agreed.

>
> Didier KO4BB
>
> On Fri, Jun 21, 2019, 3:03 PM Marco Davids via time-nuts <
> time-nuts@lists.febo.com> wrote:
>
> > Opinions, anyone?
> >
> > https://blog.cloudflare.com/secure-time/amp/
> >
> > ("Introducing time.cloudflare.com")
> >
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Re: [time-nuts] Cloudflare

2019-06-22 Thread Aanchal Malhotra
hi

On Fri, Jun 21, 2019 at 11:01 PM Sanjeev Gupta  wrote:

> Bob,
>
> The hardware is cheap.  The software is free.  The skills to deploy are
> widely available.  But...
>
> A cable run from your rack in the middle of the datacenter, through to the
> roof, is either impossible or thousands of dollars and weeks of planning.
>
> Data centers can run wires within the building for exorbitant costs, asking
> them to run one to the exterior is, well, impossible.
>

+1

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>
> On Sat, Jun 22, 2019 at 6:06 AM Bob kb8tq  wrote:
>
> > Hi
> >
> > Given the relatively low cost of a GPS based “Stratum 1” NTP, it’s not
> > real clear
> > why (at the end of the paper) they go off and “exchange emails
> > individually with the
> > organizations that run stratum 1 servers, as well as negotiate permission
> > to use them.”
> > to source the root time for the system. I would have thought that some
> > sort of combo
> > of on site and off site sources would be at the “top of the tree”.
> >
> > Bob
> >
> > > On Jun 21, 2019, at 2:20 PM, Marco Davids via time-nuts <
> > time-nuts@lists.febo.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Opinions, anyone?
> > >
> > > https://blog.cloudflare.com/secure-time/amp/
> > >
> > > ("Introducing time.cloudflare.com")
> > >
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Re: [time-nuts] Cloudflare

2019-06-22 Thread Aanchal Malhotra
Hi,

On Fri, Jun 21, 2019 at 6:07 PM Bob kb8tq  wrote:

> Hi
>
> Given the relatively low cost of a GPS based “Stratum 1” NTP, it’s not
> real clear
> why (at the end of the paper) they go off and “exchange emails
> individually with the
> organizations that run stratum 1 servers, as well as negotiate permission
> to use them.”
> to source the root time for the system. I would have thought that some
> sort of combo
> of on site and off site sources would be at the “top of the tree”.
>

CF does not own their 185 datacenters across the globe. These are rented
spaces. Some are not affable to GPS setup (no rooftop access or GPS farms
etc.). Even if they were there is extra cost for GPS setup, rent,
maintenance,  requires traveling to remote physical locations if something
goes wrong and more... CF has 185 datacenters and so the cost and effort
accumulates. Using external stratum 1 servers was a more reasonable option.
CF made sure that their servers are connected to the closest available
authenticated S1s.
Buying their own S1s is definitely on the table.

Best,
Aanchal.

>
> Bob
>
> > On Jun 21, 2019, at 2:20 PM, Marco Davids via time-nuts <
> time-nuts@lists.febo.com> wrote:
> >
> > Opinions, anyone?
> >
> > https://blog.cloudflare.com/secure-time/amp/
> >
> > ("Introducing time.cloudflare.com")
> >
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Re: [time-nuts] Cloudflare

2019-06-21 Thread Aanchal Malhotra
On Fri, Jun 21, 2019 at 4:03 PM Marco Davids via time-nuts <
time-nuts@lists.febo.com> wrote:

> Opinions, anyone?
>
> https://blog.cloudflare.com/secure-time/amp/
>
> ("Introducing time.cloudflare.com")
>

Would love to have the feedback :)

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