Re: [time-nuts] Spectracom 8161 "Standard Frequency Receiver - Oscillator" for WWVB (and question...)

2020-10-05 Thread Burt I. Weiner
The 45 degree phase shift was a form of identification for WWVB and 
also served as a marker for chart recorders.  The shift occurred from 
10-minutes past the hour until 15 minutes past the hour.


Before GPS came along, WWVB was my main frequency 
standard/reference.  I had two Gertsch RLF devices and a "thumper" 
chart recorder.  It was really a lot of grief trying to keep my 
relatively poor crystal oscillators on frequency.  If I was able to 
see the 45-degree shift I felt as though I was really accomplishing 
something.  :]  I now have two DATUM 9390-52054 GPS units.  GPS has 
really spoiled me!


Up until the phase shift was added I used a Symmetricom 8170, not so 
much as a frequency reference, but as a clock in my shoppe.  The 8170 
is still running, but displays some strange combination of numbers 
that actually tell me the status of it trying to set.  I suppose I 
should build a de-psk-er thingy, but I lost the paper work on how to 
do it.The 8170 presently serves as a night lite.


Burt, K6OQK

At 08:36 AM 10/4/2020, someone wrote:
Now, there is a 45 degree (2.1 micro) modulation on the WWVB 
signal, > that shows up as time-tags on the strip-chart, so it is 
not trivially...


Burt I. Weiner Associates
Broadcast Technical Services
Glendale, California U.S.A.
b...@att.net
K6OQK


___
time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com
To unsubscribe, go to 
http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com
and follow the instructions there.


Re: [time-nuts] Time Interval Counter(?) for high-precision watch measurement...

2020-09-09 Thread Burt I. Weiner
A friend of mine sets watches this way, except that he slips the 
watch into a coil connected to his HP-3586B SLM receiver. This seems 
to work even with metal cased watches.


Burt, K6OQK

At 07:57 AM 9/9/2020, you wrote:
 The 32768 Hz crystal oscillator can be received, amplified, and 
filtered outside the watch as described here:


 http://charliethompson.50megs.com/quartz.html

I actually tried this once, and it worked quite well on every watch 
and clock I could get my hands on at the time.


The first three transistors form an amplifier with around 100 dB of 
gain. The crystal filter is required to remove the broadband noise 
generated by the amplifier.


I didn't include the final two transistor "squaring" output stage 
because I was interested in having a sinusoidal output to view on a scope.




73.000 de John, KD2BD


___
time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com
To unsubscribe, go to 
http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com

and follow the instructions there.


Burt I. Weiner Associates
Broadcast Technical Services
Glendale, California U.S.A.
b...@att.net
K6OQK


___
time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com
To unsubscribe, go to 
http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com
and follow the instructions there.


Re: [time-nuts] Soldering small stuffs...

2020-04-25 Thread Burt I. Weiner
I have an AM-SCOPE 7-35 magnification stereo microscope. I also have 
an OptiVisor with a 5x stereo lense that my son gave me about 10 
years ago. As nice as the microscope is, I generally wind up using 
the OptiVisor. I have to agree with you about trying to solder under 
a microscope.  It take a lot of practice.


Burt, K6OQK


At 05:38 PM 4/25/2020, Bill Notfaded wrote:
I bought some magnifying glasses with 5 sets of different power 
lenses you wear like glasses. It has built in led light and 
adjustable strap that hold it on your head off Amazon. Works great. I 
can do all small surface mount stuff with them. Plus I have my normal 
vision and hand eye coordination going that way. Soldering under a 
scope or on a video monitor is a lesson all in itself!


Burt I. Weiner Associates
Broadcast Technical Services
Glendale, California U.S.A.
b...@att.net
K6OQK


___
time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com
To unsubscribe, go to 
http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com
and follow the instructions there.


Re: [time-nuts] Vaperware Parts and pulse stretching circuits

2020-04-25 Thread Burt I. Weiner

John,

What you and I do for SMT type IC's is pretty much the same.

Several years ago the wife of a close friend was 
in the re-work business with a home setup.  What 
she taught me was to first line up one of the 
corner pins and tack solder it down.  Then do the 
opposite corner, center the pin and tack solder 
it down.  Do that with all four corners, taking 
care that the pins are properly centered before 
tack soldering them.  Once you've got the four 
corners properly in places, then go and center 
the remaining pins; depending on the size of the 
chip, this might require either a microscope or 
very pointy eyes.  Once all the pins are properly 
centered, flow solder over all the pins.  At this 
point shorting all the pins together is not a problem.


Once you've flowed soldered across all of the 
pins you need to slurp up all of the solder with 
a fine pitch SolderWick.  If done correctly you 
will wind up with all of the pins properly 
soldered and centered.  The next step is to 
remove and flux using Denatured Alcohol.  Once 
that's completed, inspect for any possible shorts 
or pins in the wrong place.  If all looks good, 
cover your eyes and power it up.


I have done the above one time on my own and to my utter amazement it worked!

Burt, K6OQK


At 04:41 AM 4/25/2020, you wrote:
I do have a microscope (cheap Chinese unit, 
maybe $400 with articulated arm and the works) 
and it does make things much easier.  But as 
long as you can see the work, you can do the 
job. It's not that hard to do small pitch 
parts.  I usually do the best I can soldering 
individual pins, knowing their will be bridges, 
then clean up with solder wick and *lots* of 
no-clean flux.  You can never have too much 
flux.  I've found a 1.6 mm chisel tip is a good 
all around size for SMD work, though I have a 
0.8 mm chisel available for when things get 
tight. The hardest part is getting the first 
couple of pins tacked down so the part is square on the pads


Burt I. Weiner Associates
Broadcast Technical Services
Glendale, California U.S.A.
b...@att.net
K6OQK


___
time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com
To unsubscribe, go to 
http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com
and follow the instructions there.


Re: [time-nuts] Connector options for HP10811A?...

2020-04-08 Thread Burt I. Weiner

Frank,

Can you send me a picture of the connector?

Are you familiar with APEX (Surplus) Electronics in Sun Valley.  The 
sometimes have unusual connectors.  The problem is, you may have to 
look through the place for it.  The good news is that they can tell 
you where to start looking.


me



At 06:39 PM 4/8/2020, you wrote:
I recently bought an HP10811A oscillator on eBay, only belatedly 
realizing that it's designed to interface to a 15-contact connector 
that the manual identifies as a CINCH 250-15-30-210 or equivalent.


A search turns up a vendor in Massachusetts called BMI Surplus Inc., 
that appears to have these in stock in new condition at a minimal 
price. The only hitch is that BMI's website says they're closed down 
due to COVID-19 and will not process any orders until their state 
government authorizes businesses to return. (And at this point, it's 
anyone's guess when that will be.)


To get going with the oscillator, it occurs to me that I could rig 
up a few small alligator clips and use them on the required contacts 
for the time being. Any other thoughts or suggestions on how to work 
this? By any chance are there other known sources for the right size 
of connector that might be operating right now?


Thanks much,

Frank O'Donnell
South Pasadena, California





___
time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com
To unsubscribe, go to 
http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com

and follow the instructions there.


Burt I. Weiner Associates
Broadcast Technical Services
Glendale, California U.S.A.
b...@att.net
K6OQK


___
time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com
To unsubscribe, go to 
http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com
and follow the instructions there.


[time-nuts] From Burt - K6OQK...

2020-02-20 Thread Burt I. Weiner

Gang,

I became aware that I had not been getting anything from the 
time-nuts list. Apparently I somehow fell off the list. I just 
re-subscribed and hope things will get back to normal for me.


Burt, K6OQK

Burt I. Weiner Associates
Broadcast Technical Services
Glendale, California U.S.A.
b...@att.net
K6OQK


___
time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com
To unsubscribe, go to 
http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com
and follow the instructions there.