Re: [time-nuts] 20th year of time nuts mailing list

2021-01-07 Thread Martin Burnicki
Hi Tom,

I admit I'm a little bit late, but anyway congratulation to this huge
success.

This mailing list and the associated web pages with a huge bunch of
information are an incredible treasure.

Even though I wasn't able to contribute much to the knowledge
concentrated here, it's always a pleasure to follow the discussions that
highlight very different aspects of timing.

Thanks for all the efforts by you and everyone who's associated, and all
the best for 2021 and beyond!

Martin

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Re: [time-nuts] 20th year of time nuts mailing list

2021-01-03 Thread Magnus Danielson
Poul-Henning,

On 2021-01-03 14:39, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
> 
> Magnus Danielson writes:
>
> So what does an analog synthesizer's allan deviation look like ?
>
> :-)

I got distracted :)

One of these days. :)

Cheers,
Magnus


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Re: [time-nuts] 20th year of time nuts mailing list

2021-01-03 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp

Magnus Danielson writes:

So what does an analog synthesizer's allan deviation look like ?

:-)

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Re: [time-nuts] 20th year of time nuts mailing list

2021-01-03 Thread Magnus Danielson
Fellow time-nuts,

In the end of the previous millennia I got involved in a handful of
email-lists pertaining to analog (musical) synthesizer and building of
these. I then ended up with the opportunity of buying some test-gear to
aid my endeavors on trimming the oscillators. It's a bit of a challenge,
since you have an exponential converter that transforms a 1 V/Oct
voltage over to a current linear with frequency, using NP-junction
properties. Then this current is used convert into a sawtooth or
triangular shape using a capacitor and a reset circuit, of which the
later has a fixed reset-time. A good expo-converter can span over 20
octaves. Trimming this to "track properly" and be temperature stable is
a challenge. So, I was able to acquire a pair of bench DMMs in form of
HP 3457A, a frequency counter in form of HP5335A and a R&S XSRM Rubidium
reference out of Ericsson as they closed one of their factories and also
calibration labs. Great. I also got a HP4195A network analyzer and
HP3325B function generator. Not a bad setup. However, I wanted to learn
more about oscillators. I was searching the net using AltaVista, found
the NIST T&F archive, I found variour other sources, learned that there
is a stability measure called Allan Deviation and phase-noise, and
started to read up a lot. I then also found this little quirky
email-list for people that really like time and frequency and being kind
of nuts, called time-nuts. You might have heard about them. I ended up
learning a lot quickly. In parallel at work I was working with jitter in
digital transmission and how that cause bit errors, synchronization and
how to build synchronization over the full network. I ended up joining
the IEEE UFFC, as this allowed me to get access to that library of articles.

Over time I have seen my lab outgrow the room it started in, I now lost
count of the number of rubidiums I have, I barely know how many cesiums
I have and the once unobtainium of a hydrogen maser obviously takes a
big part of the new lab and is fortunately easy to count so far (1).
Counter-wise I also got a rather sizeable collection, some of which I
have more for museum/reference purposes than anything I can meaningful
use. I can measure ADEV and phase-noise fairly well, to the level that I
was appaulled by the huge 10 ps spikes that the RS232 readout was
causing, and here I thought 10 ps resolution was unobtainable not that
far ago. I have presented at EFTF and IFCS, have a PTTI presentation to
finalize now. I know a whole range of the people behind the names of the
articles I read.

Over the years I learned a lot just hanging out on the list, and I have
hopefully contributed some. It's been an awesome journey. There is still
things to learn, and just reading the list is a great way to learn
things. Also at times, I find myself reminded rather than learning, but
that is important too.

Cheers,
Magnus

On 2021-01-01 06:02, Tom Van Baak wrote:
> Hello time nuts,
>
> Ah, it is 2021-01-01 (JD 2459215.5, MJD 59215) which is nice because
> that means it's not 2020 anymore.
>
> One reason I've been looking forward to 2021 is that it's now
> officially the 20th year of the time nuts mailing list. So this is a
> note to say *thank you* to everyone for making it so amazing over the
> years. I get comments all the time about this mailing list; its depth,
> its high SNR, its focus, its vast archive of quality postings, and
> especially, the community that evolved around the list.
>
> On the web the phrase "time nut" is now a proper noun, sometimes an
> adjective, or occasionally a diagnosis or disease. Never in my wildest
> dreams did I think any of this would happen. I thought my early
> interest in nixie tubes, clocks, electronics, and precise timing might
> be a passing phase, and that the frequency of eBay purchases would
> fade. But no. This turns out to be an incredibly wide, deep,
> interesting, and rewarding hobby. The mailing list started with 6
> people (half of whom are still active) and we now have 1850 members. [1]
>
> Speaking of history, and also to put time-nuts into perspective, I'd
> like to mention that leapsecond.com (tvb) and febo.com (jra) predate
> Y2K (2000), wikipedia (2001), facebook (2004), youtube (2005), twitter
> (2006), reddit (2006), iPhone (2007), duckduckgo (2008), gmail (2004,
> 2009), eevblog (2009), instagram (2010), snapchat (2011), outlook
> (2012), and literally millions of other web sites and mailing lists.
>
> When this all started for us it was WWV on short-wave, ACTS by phone,
> Loran-C, GOES, WWVB, GPS, Win98, dial-up, and my search engine was
> altavista.dec.com. It's scary to think how much has changed in 20
> years. Fun fact: I started leapsecond.com so I could post the results
> of a Y2K Colorado visit to NIST. If the world was going to crash I was
> going to be at ground zero, with a camera. [2]
>
> Anyway, stay safe, stay healthy, stay timely. Here's to a new decade
> and a happy new year to all of us.
>
> /tvb
>
> [1] htt

[time-nuts] 20th year of time nuts mailing list

2021-01-01 Thread Ronald Held
Congratulations on 20 years, and a big shout-out to Tom!   I have not
contributed much, much but have learn from the experts here.
 Ronald

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Re: [time-nuts] 20th year of time nuts mailing list

2021-01-01 Thread jlonet...@gmail.com
Best wishes for this new year with the aim that it has to be better than 2020! 
I'm very impressed with the history of Time-nuts, thanks a lot to Tom and John 
and all the great people who made it The Place it is! -- Message 
d'origine--De: Bob kb8tqDate: ven. 1 janv. 2021 20:18À: Discussion of 
precise time and frequency measurement;Cc: Objet :Re: [time-nuts] 20th year of 
time nuts mailing listHi

Indeed a very Happy New Year to all. Let’s hope that it is *much* happier than 
2020 …

Thanks very much to Tom and John who put in an enormous amount of work 
to keep this list running and the interesting place it is. Keep up the good 
work !!!

Bob

> On Jan 1, 2021, at 12:02 AM, Tom Van Baak  wrote:
> 
> Hello time nuts,
> 
> Ah, it is 2021-01-01 (JD 2459215.5, MJD 59215) which is nice because that 
> means it's not 2020 anymore.
> 
> One reason I've been looking forward to 2021 is that it's now officially the 
> 20th year of the time nuts mailing list. So this is a note to say *thank you*
 to everyone for making it so amazing over the years. I get comments all the 
time about this mailing list; its depth, its high SNR, its focus, its vast 
archive of quality postings, and especially, the community that evolved around 
the list.
> 
> On the web the phrase "time nut" is now a proper noun, sometimes an 
> adjective, or occasionally a diagnosis or disease. Never in my wildest dreams 
> did I think any of this would happen. I thought my early interest in nixie 
> tubes, clocks, electronics, and precise timing might be a passing phase, and 
> that the frequency of eBay purchases would fade. But no. This turns out to be 
> an incredibly wide, deep, interesting, and rewarding hobby. The mailing list 
> started with 6 people (half of whom are still active) and we now have 1850 
> members. [1]
> 
> Speaking of history, and also to put time-nuts into perspective, I'd like to 
> mention that leapsecond.com (tvb) and febo.com (jra) predate Y2K (2000), 
> wikipedia (2001), facebook (2004), youtube (2005),
 twitter (2006), reddit (2006), iPhone (2007), duckduckgo (2008), gmail (2004, 
2009), eevblog (2009), instagram (2010), snapchat (2011), outlook (2012), and 
literally millions of other web sites and mailing lists.
> 
> When this all started for us it was WWV on short-wave, ACTS by phone, 
> Loran-C, GOES, WWVB, GPS, Win98, dial-up, and my search engine was 
> altavista.dec.com. It's scary to think how much has changed in 20 years. Fun 
> fact: I started leapsecond.com so I could post the results of a Y2K Colorado 
> visit to NIST. If the world was going to crash I was going to be at ground 
> zero, with a camera. [2]
> 
> Anyway, stay safe, stay healthy, stay timely. Here's to a new decade and a 
> happy new year to all of us.
> 
> /tvb
> 
> [1] http://leapsecond.com/time-nuts.htm#history
> 
> [2] http://leapsecond.com/y2k/
> 
> 
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Re: [time-nuts] 20th year of time nuts mailing list

2021-01-01 Thread Tom Bales
Tom, thanks for doing this crazy thing that has so many of us involved.
Since meeting you, John Ackerman, and others at the BHI 150th Anniversary
celebration in England, I somehow have acquired four Rb GPSDOs, two Ce
chip-scale atomic clocks, two Rb miniature atomic clocks, a host of
counter-timers and oscilloscopes, four Hamilton 21 chronometers, and an
untold number of GPSDOs and receivers, none of which I had realized that I
needed prior to meeting you guys.  My current project of synchronizing
Hamilton chronometers with atomic standards is coming together, with three
systems built and operational.  Now, if I can just find someone who needs a
"perfect" chronometer for their megayacht, I'll be in business.

Tom Bales
KE4SYS
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Re: [time-nuts] 20th year of time nuts mailing list

2021-01-01 Thread Brent
I've learned a lot from this list and the community around it.  Thanks to
all who have contributed!

On Fri, Jan 1, 2021 at 8:01 AM Azelio Boriani 
wrote:

> Thank you all and happy new year.
> I joined this list in 2010, my first GPSDO was completed in 2001 when
> working on DVB transmission equipment here in Italy, at that time
> among the very first digital video modulators produced. Precise timing
> was entering the digital video broadcast industry.
>
> On Fri, Jan 1, 2021 at 1:10 PM Poul-Henning Kamp 
> wrote:
> >
> > 
> > Tom Van Baak writes:
> >
> > > One reason I've been looking forward to 2021 is that it's now
> officially
> > > the 20th year of the time nuts mailing list.
> >
> > ...and twenty years feeling part of a community, rather than
> > like an utter goof-ball, for caring about nanoseconds :-)
> >
> > I also think it is fair to say that our community being already up
> > and running, made a lot of other peoples lives easier, once the
> > rest of the world caught up with precision timing.
> >
> > Stay safe!
> >
> > Poul-Henning
> >
> > --
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Re: [time-nuts] 20th year of time nuts mailing list

2021-01-01 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi

Indeed a very Happy New Year to all. Let’s hope that it is *much* happier than 
2020 …

Thanks very much to Tom and John who put in an enormous amount of work 
to keep this list running and the interesting place it is. Keep up the good 
work !!!

Bob

> On Jan 1, 2021, at 12:02 AM, Tom Van Baak  wrote:
> 
> Hello time nuts,
> 
> Ah, it is 2021-01-01 (JD 2459215.5, MJD 59215) which is nice because that 
> means it's not 2020 anymore.
> 
> One reason I've been looking forward to 2021 is that it's now officially the 
> 20th year of the time nuts mailing list. So this is a note to say *thank you* 
> to everyone for making it so amazing over the years. I get comments all the 
> time about this mailing list; its depth, its high SNR, its focus, its vast 
> archive of quality postings, and especially, the community that evolved 
> around the list.
> 
> On the web the phrase "time nut" is now a proper noun, sometimes an 
> adjective, or occasionally a diagnosis or disease. Never in my wildest dreams 
> did I think any of this would happen. I thought my early interest in nixie 
> tubes, clocks, electronics, and precise timing might be a passing phase, and 
> that the frequency of eBay purchases would fade. But no. This turns out to be 
> an incredibly wide, deep, interesting, and rewarding hobby. The mailing list 
> started with 6 people (half of whom are still active) and we now have 1850 
> members. [1]
> 
> Speaking of history, and also to put time-nuts into perspective, I'd like to 
> mention that leapsecond.com (tvb) and febo.com (jra) predate Y2K (2000), 
> wikipedia (2001), facebook (2004), youtube (2005), twitter (2006), reddit 
> (2006), iPhone (2007), duckduckgo (2008), gmail (2004, 2009), eevblog (2009), 
> instagram (2010), snapchat (2011), outlook (2012), and literally millions of 
> other web sites and mailing lists.
> 
> When this all started for us it was WWV on short-wave, ACTS by phone, 
> Loran-C, GOES, WWVB, GPS, Win98, dial-up, and my search engine was 
> altavista.dec.com. It's scary to think how much has changed in 20 years. Fun 
> fact: I started leapsecond.com so I could post the results of a Y2K Colorado 
> visit to NIST. If the world was going to crash I was going to be at ground 
> zero, with a camera. [2]
> 
> Anyway, stay safe, stay healthy, stay timely. Here's to a new decade and a 
> happy new year to all of us.
> 
> /tvb
> 
> [1] http://leapsecond.com/time-nuts.htm#history
> 
> [2] http://leapsecond.com/y2k/
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [time-nuts] 20th year of time nuts mailing list

2021-01-01 Thread Azelio Boriani
Thank you all and happy new year.
I joined this list in 2010, my first GPSDO was completed in 2001 when
working on DVB transmission equipment here in Italy, at that time
among the very first digital video modulators produced. Precise timing
was entering the digital video broadcast industry.

On Fri, Jan 1, 2021 at 1:10 PM Poul-Henning Kamp  wrote:
>
> 
> Tom Van Baak writes:
>
> > One reason I've been looking forward to 2021 is that it's now officially
> > the 20th year of the time nuts mailing list.
>
> ...and twenty years feeling part of a community, rather than
> like an utter goof-ball, for caring about nanoseconds :-)
>
> I also think it is fair to say that our community being already up
> and running, made a lot of other peoples lives easier, once the
> rest of the world caught up with precision timing.
>
> Stay safe!
>
> Poul-Henning
>
> --
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> p...@freebsd.org | TCP/IP since RFC 956
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Re: [time-nuts] 20th year of time nuts mailing list

2021-01-01 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp

Tom Van Baak writes:

> One reason I've been looking forward to 2021 is that it's now officially 
> the 20th year of the time nuts mailing list.

...and twenty years feeling part of a community, rather than
like an utter goof-ball, for caring about nanoseconds :-)

I also think it is fair to say that our community being already up
and running, made a lot of other peoples lives easier, once the
rest of the world caught up with precision timing.

Stay safe!

Poul-Henning

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Re: [time-nuts] 20th year of time nuts mailing list

2021-01-01 Thread Peter Reilley

Congratulations!
Time nuts has been such a great place to be all theses years for me even 
if the

information flow has been mostly one way.    I have learned an enormous
amount.

Pete.

On 1/1/2021 12:02 AM, Tom Van Baak wrote:

Hello time nuts,

Ah, it is 2021-01-01 (JD 2459215.5, MJD 59215) which is nice because 
that means it's not 2020 anymore.


One reason I've been looking forward to 2021 is that it's now 
officially the 20th year of the time nuts mailing list. So this is a 
note to say *thank you* to everyone for making it so amazing over the 
years. I get comments all the time about this mailing list; its depth, 
its high SNR, its focus, its vast archive of quality postings, and 
especially, the community that evolved around the list.


On the web the phrase "time nut" is now a proper noun, sometimes an 
adjective, or occasionally a diagnosis or disease. Never in my wildest 
dreams did I think any of this would happen. I thought my early 
interest in nixie tubes, clocks, electronics, and precise timing might 
be a passing phase, and that the frequency of eBay purchases would 
fade. But no. This turns out to be an incredibly wide, deep, 
interesting, and rewarding hobby. The mailing list started with 6 
people (half of whom are still active) and we now have 1850 members. [1]


Speaking of history, and also to put time-nuts into perspective, I'd 
like to mention that leapsecond.com (tvb) and febo.com (jra) predate 
Y2K (2000), wikipedia (2001), facebook (2004), youtube (2005), twitter 
(2006), reddit (2006), iPhone (2007), duckduckgo (2008), gmail (2004, 
2009), eevblog (2009), instagram (2010), snapchat (2011), outlook 
(2012), and literally millions of other web sites and mailing lists.


When this all started for us it was WWV on short-wave, ACTS by phone, 
Loran-C, GOES, WWVB, GPS, Win98, dial-up, and my search engine was 
altavista.dec.com. It's scary to think how much has changed in 20 
years. Fun fact: I started leapsecond.com so I could post the results 
of a Y2K Colorado visit to NIST. If the world was going to crash I was 
going to be at ground zero, with a camera. [2]


Anyway, stay safe, stay healthy, stay timely. Here's to a new decade 
and a happy new year to all of us.


/tvb

[1] http://leapsecond.com/time-nuts.htm#history

[2] http://leapsecond.com/y2k/



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Re: [time-nuts] 20th year of time nuts mailing list

2020-12-31 Thread Hugh Blemings

Hi Tom, All,

Thank you for sharing such a great remembrance!

At about five years subscribed I'm a newcomer and certainly at early 
stages of my time-nuttery journey, but none the less time-nuts remains 
my favourite 'net mailing list for all the reasons you outline - the 
exceptionally high SNR, fascinating discourse and just plain lovely 
bunch of folk that are involved.


Thank you to Tom and all who keep it ticking over and to all that 
contribute to the discussions.


The very best for 2021 and beyond

vy 73
Hugh
VK3YYZ/AD5RV

On 1/1/21 4:02 pm, Tom Van Baak wrote:

Hello time nuts,

Ah, it is 2021-01-01 (JD 2459215.5, MJD 59215) which is nice because 
that means it's not 2020 anymore.


One reason I've been looking forward to 2021 is that it's now 
officially the 20th year of the time nuts mailing list. So this is a 
note to say *thank you* to everyone for making it so amazing over the 
years. I get comments all the time about this mailing list; its depth, 
its high SNR, its focus, its vast archive of quality postings, and 
especially, the community that evolved around the list.


On the web the phrase "time nut" is now a proper noun, sometimes an 
adjective, or occasionally a diagnosis or disease. Never in my wildest 
dreams did I think any of this would happen. I thought my early 
interest in nixie tubes, clocks, electronics, and precise timing might 
be a passing phase, and that the frequency of eBay purchases would 
fade. But no. This turns out to be an incredibly wide, deep, 
interesting, and rewarding hobby. The mailing list started with 6 
people (half of whom are still active) and we now have 1850 members. [1]


Speaking of history, and also to put time-nuts into perspective, I'd 
like to mention that leapsecond.com (tvb) and febo.com (jra) predate 
Y2K (2000), wikipedia (2001), facebook (2004), youtube (2005), twitter 
(2006), reddit (2006), iPhone (2007), duckduckgo (2008), gmail (2004, 
2009), eevblog (2009), instagram (2010), snapchat (2011), outlook 
(2012), and literally millions of other web sites and mailing lists.


When this all started for us it was WWV on short-wave, ACTS by phone, 
Loran-C, GOES, WWVB, GPS, Win98, dial-up, and my search engine was 
altavista.dec.com. It's scary to think how much has changed in 20 
years. Fun fact: I started leapsecond.com so I could post the results 
of a Y2K Colorado visit to NIST. If the world was going to crash I was 
going to be at ground zero, with a camera. [2]


Anyway, stay safe, stay healthy, stay timely. Here's to a new decade 
and a happy new year to all of us.


/tvb

[1] http://leapsecond.com/time-nuts.htm#history

[2] http://leapsecond.com/y2k/



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Re: [time-nuts] 20th year of time nuts mailing list

2020-12-31 Thread Wes
Congratulations Tom!  Happy, prosperous and healthy New Year to you and all of 
the other nuts.


Wes Stewart,  N7WS

On 12/31/2020 10:02 PM, Tom Van Baak wrote:

Hello time nuts,

Ah, it is 2021-01-01 (JD 2459215.5, MJD 59215) which is nice because that 
means it's not 2020 anymore.


One reason I've been looking forward to 2021 is that it's now officially the 
20th year of the time nuts mailing list. So this is a note to say *thank you* 
to everyone for making it so amazing over the years. I get comments all the 
time about this mailing list; its depth, its high SNR, its focus, its vast 
archive of quality postings, and especially, the community that evolved around 
the list.


On the web the phrase "time nut" is now a proper noun, sometimes an adjective, 
or occasionally a diagnosis or disease. Never in my wildest dreams did I think 
any of this would happen. I thought my early interest in nixie tubes, clocks, 
electronics, and precise timing might be a passing phase, and that the 
frequency of eBay purchases would fade. But no. This turns out to be an 
incredibly wide, deep, interesting, and rewarding hobby. The mailing list 
started with 6 people (half of whom are still active) and we now have 1850 
members. [1]


Speaking of history, and also to put time-nuts into perspective, I'd like to 
mention that leapsecond.com (tvb) and febo.com (jra) predate Y2K (2000), 
wikipedia (2001), facebook (2004), youtube (2005), twitter (2006), reddit 
(2006), iPhone (2007), duckduckgo (2008), gmail (2004, 2009), eevblog (2009), 
instagram (2010), snapchat (2011), outlook (2012), and literally millions of 
other web sites and mailing lists.


When this all started for us it was WWV on short-wave, ACTS by phone, Loran-C, 
GOES, WWVB, GPS, Win98, dial-up, and my search engine was altavista.dec.com. 
It's scary to think how much has changed in 20 years. Fun fact: I started 
leapsecond.com so I could post the results of a Y2K Colorado visit to NIST. If 
the world was going to crash I was going to be at ground zero, with a camera. [2]


Anyway, stay safe, stay healthy, stay timely. Here's to a new decade and a 
happy new year to all of us.


/tvb

[1] http://leapsecond.com/time-nuts.htm#history

[2] http://leapsecond.com/y2k/ 



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Re: [time-nuts] 20th year of time nuts mailing list

2020-12-31 Thread Steve - Home
Happy New Year to all the time nuts, and a big THANK YOU to you, Tom, for 
making the list available to all of us, from newbies to the top tier in time 
and frequency experts around the world!

Steve




> On Dec 31, 2020, at 11:15 PM, Tom Van Baak  wrote:
> 
> Hello time nuts,
> 
> Ah, it is 2021-01-01 (JD 2459215.5, MJD 59215) which is nice because that 
> means it's not 2020 anymore.
> 
> One reason I've been looking forward to 2021 is that it's now officially the 
> 20th year of the time nuts mailing list. So this is a note to say *thank you* 
> to everyone for making it so amazing over the years. I get comments all the 
> time about this mailing list; its depth, its high SNR, its focus, its vast 
> archive of quality postings, and especially, the community that evolved 
> around the list.
> 
> On the web the phrase "time nut" is now a proper noun, sometimes an 
> adjective, or occasionally a diagnosis or disease. Never in my wildest dreams 
> did I think any of this would happen. I thought my early interest in nixie 
> tubes, clocks, electronics, and precise timing might be a passing phase, and 
> that the frequency of eBay purchases would fade. But no. This turns out to be 
> an incredibly wide, deep, interesting, and rewarding hobby. The mailing list 
> started with 6 people (half of whom are still active) and we now have 1850 
> members. [1]
> 
> Speaking of history, and also to put time-nuts into perspective, I'd like to 
> mention that leapsecond.com (tvb) and febo.com (jra) predate Y2K (2000), 
> wikipedia (2001), facebook (2004), youtube (2005), twitter (2006), reddit 
> (2006), iPhone (2007), duckduckgo (2008), gmail (2004, 2009), eevblog (2009), 
> instagram (2010), snapchat (2011), outlook (2012), and literally millions of 
> other web sites and mailing lists.
> 
> When this all started for us it was WWV on short-wave, ACTS by phone, 
> Loran-C, GOES, WWVB, GPS, Win98, dial-up, and my search engine was 
> altavista.dec.com. It's scary to think how much has changed in 20 years. Fun 
> fact: I started leapsecond.com so I could post the results of a Y2K Colorado 
> visit to NIST. If the world was going to crash I was going to be at ground 
> zero, with a camera. [2]
> 
> Anyway, stay safe, stay healthy, stay timely. Here's to a new decade and a 
> happy new year to all of us.
> 
> /tvb
> 
> [1] http://leapsecond.com/time-nuts.htm#history
> 
> [2] http://leapsecond.com/y2k/
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [time-nuts] 20th year of time nuts mailing list

2020-12-31 Thread Bob Albert via time-nuts
 Great job Tom!  It's an important service you have here and for me at least, 
an irreplaceable resource.  I have learned more than I thought possible and a 
good part of the blame rests on your shoulders.
Keep up the great work, and happy new year!
Bob K6DDX
On Thursday, December 31, 2020, 09:15:36 PM PST, Tom Van Baak 
 wrote:  
 
 Hello time nuts,

Ah, it is 2021-01-01 (JD 2459215.5, MJD 59215) which is nice because 
that means it's not 2020 anymore.

One reason I've been looking forward to 2021 is that it's now officially 
the 20th year of the time nuts mailing list. So this is a note to say 
*thank you* to everyone for making it so amazing over the years. I get 
comments all the time about this mailing list; its depth, its high SNR, 
its focus, its vast archive of quality postings, and especially, the 
community that evolved around the list.

On the web the phrase "time nut" is now a proper noun, sometimes an 
adjective, or occasionally a diagnosis or disease. Never in my wildest 
dreams did I think any of this would happen. I thought my early interest 
in nixie tubes, clocks, electronics, and precise timing might be a 
passing phase, and that the frequency of eBay purchases would fade. But 
no. This turns out to be an incredibly wide, deep, interesting, and 
rewarding hobby. The mailing list started with 6 people (half of whom 
are still active) and we now have 1850 members. [1]

Speaking of history, and also to put time-nuts into perspective, I'd 
like to mention that leapsecond.com (tvb) and febo.com (jra) predate Y2K 
(2000), wikipedia (2001), facebook (2004), youtube (2005), twitter 
(2006), reddit (2006), iPhone (2007), duckduckgo (2008), gmail (2004, 
2009), eevblog (2009), instagram (2010), snapchat (2011), outlook 
(2012), and literally millions of other web sites and mailing lists.

When this all started for us it was WWV on short-wave, ACTS by phone, 
Loran-C, GOES, WWVB, GPS, Win98, dial-up, and my search engine was 
altavista.dec.com. It's scary to think how much has changed in 20 years. 
Fun fact: I started leapsecond.com so I could post the results of a Y2K 
Colorado visit to NIST. If the world was going to crash I was going to 
be at ground zero, with a camera. [2]

Anyway, stay safe, stay healthy, stay timely. Here's to a new decade and 
a happy new year to all of us.

/tvb

[1] http://leapsecond.com/time-nuts.htm#history

[2] http://leapsecond.com/y2k/



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[time-nuts] 20th year of time nuts mailing list

2020-12-31 Thread Tom Van Baak

Hello time nuts,

Ah, it is 2021-01-01 (JD 2459215.5, MJD 59215) which is nice because 
that means it's not 2020 anymore.


One reason I've been looking forward to 2021 is that it's now officially 
the 20th year of the time nuts mailing list. So this is a note to say 
*thank you* to everyone for making it so amazing over the years. I get 
comments all the time about this mailing list; its depth, its high SNR, 
its focus, its vast archive of quality postings, and especially, the 
community that evolved around the list.


On the web the phrase "time nut" is now a proper noun, sometimes an 
adjective, or occasionally a diagnosis or disease. Never in my wildest 
dreams did I think any of this would happen. I thought my early interest 
in nixie tubes, clocks, electronics, and precise timing might be a 
passing phase, and that the frequency of eBay purchases would fade. But 
no. This turns out to be an incredibly wide, deep, interesting, and 
rewarding hobby. The mailing list started with 6 people (half of whom 
are still active) and we now have 1850 members. [1]


Speaking of history, and also to put time-nuts into perspective, I'd 
like to mention that leapsecond.com (tvb) and febo.com (jra) predate Y2K 
(2000), wikipedia (2001), facebook (2004), youtube (2005), twitter 
(2006), reddit (2006), iPhone (2007), duckduckgo (2008), gmail (2004, 
2009), eevblog (2009), instagram (2010), snapchat (2011), outlook 
(2012), and literally millions of other web sites and mailing lists.


When this all started for us it was WWV on short-wave, ACTS by phone, 
Loran-C, GOES, WWVB, GPS, Win98, dial-up, and my search engine was 
altavista.dec.com. It's scary to think how much has changed in 20 years. 
Fun fact: I started leapsecond.com so I could post the results of a Y2K 
Colorado visit to NIST. If the world was going to crash I was going to 
be at ground zero, with a camera. [2]


Anyway, stay safe, stay healthy, stay timely. Here's to a new decade and 
a happy new year to all of us.


/tvb

[1] http://leapsecond.com/time-nuts.htm#history

[2] http://leapsecond.com/y2k/



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