Re: [time-nuts] Garmin 18x GPS WNRO, revisited
My GPS has been powered down from time to time over the past 10 years. Its recent WNRO issue was not associated with any power-cycling event. I am using ntpsec's "SHM" driver (*not* the type-20 NMEA driver), with the GPS data captured by gpsd. Gpsd is sensing the PPS signal from the GPS without difficulty. I bought a new Garmin 18x LVC recently, btw, and it is running fine on another computer at my home without any WNRO problems. I assume the firmware on the new unit is newer than on my other, 10-year-old GPS, and that this is why the new GPS is giving good time without my needing to fudge it in ntpsec. Rich Wales ri...@richw.org On 2019-11-29 10:27, David J Taylor via time-nuts wrote: Thanks for reporting that, Rich. I haven't seen that issue with either the GPS18 LVC, or the GPS18x LVC, but neither have been powered down. Were yours running continually? Anyway, I love the fix! I'm running reference NTP here, and noted that with a type 22 PPS driver, the "prefer" must include the type 20 NMEA driver. With the problem pending, I had hoped that using an e.g. Internet source for coarse time might have been enough, and had commented out the NMEA source, but it appears not to be the case. The PPS was never used (but it appeared in the billboard). Cheers, David ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com To unsubscribe, go to http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Garmin 18x GPS WNRO, revisited
The Garmin 18x I have still works, and I verified it works after a power cycle. I'm running firmware version 4.40. Apparently all the 4.XX firmware versions are related to GPS week rollover fixes. Earlier versions also have fixes for "improved" time keeping. Here is the download link for 18X: https://www8.garmin.com/support/download_details.jsp?id=4055 These are all the downloads for the 18x, including the Garmin tool SNSRXCFG: https://www8.garmin.com/support/collection.jsp?product=010-00321-31 This link from David might also be of interest: https://www.satsignal.eu/ntp/Garmin-GSP18x-LVC-firmware-issue.htm I've found the upgrade process to be a bit complicated, the upgrade instructions didn't work for me. So this is what I did: * set receiver at 9600 baud, power cycle * with garmin utility, set receiver in garmin mode, power cycle * run upgrade utility, power cycle, After the upgrade I couldn't get the receiver back to NMEA mode, so I just did it programmatically: /* fd is the file descriptor pointing to the open file to the tty device in RAW mode @ 9600 baud */ /* send_byte is a wrapper code to write() which handles timeouts and write errors */ void garmin_set_nmea(int fd) { printf("==> garmin_set_nmea\n"); /* * garmin binary command to switch to NMEA output */ int i; unsigned char buffer[] = { 0x10, 0x0A, 0x02, 0x26, 0x00, 0xCE, 0x10, 0x03 }; for (i = 0; i < sizeof (buffer); i++) send_byte(fd, buffer[i]); } -- Fio Cattaneo Universal AC, can Entropy be reversed? -- "THERE IS AS YET INSUFFICIENT DATA FOR A MEANINGFUL ANSWER." -Original Message- From: time-nuts On Behalf Of David J Taylor via time-nuts Sent: Friday, 29 November, 2019 10:28 To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Cc: David J Taylor Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Garmin 18x GPS WNRO, revisited From: Rich Wales I may have found the answer to my own question. I added "time1 619315200" to the "refclock" line in my ntp.conf file, and restarted ntpsec, and it appears to be sane once again. (And, of course, 619315200 = 7,168 days = 1,024 weeks.) Rich Wales ri...@richw.org Thanks for reporting that, Rich. I haven't seen that issue with either the GPS18 LVC, or the GPS18x LVC, but neither have been powered down. Were yours running continually? Anyway, I love the fix! I'm running reference NTP here, and noted that with a type 22 PPS driver, the "prefer" must include the type 20 NMEA driver. With the problem pending, I had hoped that using an e.g. Internet source for coarse time might have been enough, and had commented out the NMEA source, but it appears not to be the case. The PPS was never used (but it appeared in the billboard). Cheers, David -- SatSignal Software - Quality software for you Web: http://www.satsignal.eu Email: david-tay...@blueyonder.co.uk Twitter: @gm8arv ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com To unsubscribe, go to http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com To unsubscribe, go to http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Garmin 18x GPS WNRO, revisited
From: Rich Wales I may have found the answer to my own question. I added "time1 619315200" to the "refclock" line in my ntp.conf file, and restarted ntpsec, and it appears to be sane once again. (And, of course, 619315200 = 7,168 days = 1,024 weeks.) Rich Wales ri...@richw.org Thanks for reporting that, Rich. I haven't seen that issue with either the GPS18 LVC, or the GPS18x LVC, but neither have been powered down. Were yours running continually? Anyway, I love the fix! I'm running reference NTP here, and noted that with a type 22 PPS driver, the "prefer" must include the type 20 NMEA driver. With the problem pending, I had hoped that using an e.g. Internet source for coarse time might have been enough, and had commented out the NMEA source, but it appears not to be the case. The PPS was never used (but it appeared in the billboard). Cheers, David -- SatSignal Software - Quality software for you Web: http://www.satsignal.eu Email: david-tay...@blueyonder.co.uk Twitter: @gm8arv ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com To unsubscribe, go to http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Garmin 18x GPS WNRO, revisited
I may have found the answer to my own question. I added "time1 619315200" to the "refclock" line in my ntp.conf file, and restarted ntpsec, and it appears to be sane once again. (And, of course, 619315200 = 7,168 days = 1,024 weeks.) Rich Wales ri...@richw.org ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com To unsubscribe, go to http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com and follow the instructions there.