Re: [Tinyos-help] Why I couldn't make micaz?

2006-08-05 Thread Philip Levis

On Aug 5, 2006, at 4:16 AM, Fajun Sun wrote:


 Hi:
Recently I have installed TinyOS 2.0 on Red Linux 9.0.But it
 seems not working very well.It gives me many error information
 when I excute command 'make micaz':



Have you run tos-check-env? What does it print out?

Phil

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RE: [Tinyos-help] a question about setRFPower in TOSSIM

2006-08-05 Thread Yinying Yang








Thank you so much for your
help.

 

And I think I have found
out the key step I missed before. That is, in the radio model plugin in tinyviz
even if  we use the default  distance scaling factor(1.0), we should hit
ENTER first to activate it.

 






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Re: [Tinyos-help] set distance between motes in tinyviz

2006-08-05 Thread Darren Bishop
Unfortunately I cannot use TiinyOS-2.0. Maybe Nilay can.

Nilay: Nonetheless, what you are trying to do is possible and I/we have done 
it. I must admit, after just running it again, it does not seem intuitive 
what it is doing: using the same setup as describe earlier but with scale 1, 
a node did not always hear the broadcast of one of its (upto) 4 neighbours; I 
thought being unit disc i.e. 0-loss-rate, that tehy would always hear their 
neighbours.

I do not know what more advice to give this - maybe someone else can offer 
input

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Darren Bishop, MSc, BSc (Hons), MBCS

On Saturday 05 August 2006 10:31, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I think that if you need a more accurate kind of simulation, you should
> think about using TinyOS 2.0 and Tossim. As a matter of fact the new Tossim
> version gives you the possibility of defining Radio Gains among nodes
> instead of using an empirical model or a radius model as in TinyViz.
> Moreover if you need a particular kind of simulation, you can change the
> GainRadioModel defining your own.
>
> Stefano.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -- Initial Header ---
>
> >From  : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> To  : "Nilay" [EMAIL PROTECTED],"tinyOShelp"
> tinyos-help@Millennium.Berkeley.EDU Cc  :
> Date  : Sat, 5 Aug 2006 08:53:17 +0100
> Subject : Re: [Tinyos-help] set distance between motes in tinyviz
>
> > That plugin is a bit buggy.
> >
> > I have just played with it.
> >
> > i) setup a grid of 100 nodes
> > ii) set the radio model to to fixed radius 10
> > ii) set the scalingfactor to 2
> >
> > At this point all nodes are isolated. For some reason the radius is
> > divided by the scale factor; radius 10 / factor 2 = new-radius 5, hence
> > why all nodes are isolated, given they are 10 apart.
> >
> > The buggyness is in the need to hit ENTER then click update when you
> > change the scale; also be patient as I think responsiveness degrades as
> > the network size increases.
> >
> > --
> > Warm regards,
> >
> > Darren Bishop, MSc, BSc (Hons), MBCS
> >
> > On Friday 04 August 2006 21:29, Nilay wrote:
> > > Thanks Darren,
> > > but that doesnt help too.
> > > I set up the 50 motes in a grid fashion, the distant of each is by 12.5
> > > units (when u enable the grid lines). Chose a radio model with radius
> > > 10.0 but still the either mote can reach any other mote which is way
> > > more than 10.0 units. Can u suggest something more (a plugin usage
> > > manual link)or a working example.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Nilay
> > >
> > > On Tue, 01 Aug 2006 Darren BISHOP wrote :
> > > >Hey Nilay,
> > > >
> > > >In TinyViz goto the 'Plugins' menu and enable the 'Radio model'
> > > > plugin. Select the corresponding control panel (on the right) and
> > > > choose the radio range e.g. 'Fixed radius (10.0)'. You can then scale
> > > > this by setting the 'Distance scaling factor'; I believe you must use
> > > > the reciprocal of the factor by which you wish to scale.
> > > >
> > > >Hope this helps.
> > > >
> > > >Darren
> > > >
> > > >Nilay Chheda wrote:
> > > >>  Thanks Darren,
> > > >>The real thing I want to do is to limit the radio range to some
> > > >> nodes. I am simulating around 50 nodes and want to form a tree using
> > > >> them. The problem here is that the root (mote 0) broadcast and
> > > >> allocates the even furthest node (consider nodes are placed in a
> > > >> grid fashion)as its child. So I want to limit the radio range to a
> > > >> certain known distance so as to form the next level of the tree. As
> > > >> you said I can use the RadioModel plugin but how do I set the
> > > >> distance so that I can actually get the relation between the radio
> > > >> range and distance parameters. In other other words, set a numerical
> > > >> distance between two nodes to get the numerical radio range. I hope
> > > >> thats not too confusing.
> > > >>
> > > >>Thanks,
> > > >>Nilay
> >
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[Tinyos-help] Re: IEEE-802.15.4 - Beacon Mode

2006-08-05 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Dear friends,

The paper entitled "EVALUATING THE USE OF MOTES AND TINYOS FOR A MOBILE 
SENSOR PLATFORM"
evaluates 802.15.4 (beaconmode) on a real sensor network of micaz and 
telos motes.
Suprisingly, it says beacon mode can not be supported on
capabilities that present motes posses. Any comments on  the paper
will be very useful...

please google for the paper as attachment mails are bouncing back

 Regards,
 D. Manjunath


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[Tinyos-help] Why I couldn't make micaz?

2006-08-05 Thread Fajun Sun
 Hi:
    Recently I have installed TinyOS 2.0 on Red Linux 9.0.But it
 seems not working very well.It gives me many error information
 when I excute command 'make micaz':

 
 /opt/tinyos-2.x/support/make/Makerules:162: ***
 
Usage:  make  
    make  help
 
    Valid targets:
    Valid extras:
 
 Welcome to the TinyOS make system!
 
 You must specify one of the valid targets and possibly some
 combination of the extra options.  Many targets have custom
 extras and extended help, so be sure to try "make  help"
 to learn of all the available features.
 
 Global extras:
 
   docs    : compile additional nescdoc documentation
   tinysec : compile with TinySec secure communication
 
ERROR, "micaz tos-ident-flags tos_image" does not specify a valid
 target.  Stop.
-

Can anyone give me some help? Thanks in advance.

 Regards.
 Fajun Sun
 

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Re: [Tinyos-help] set distance between motes in tinyviz

2006-08-05 Thread Darren Bishop
That plugin is a bit buggy.

I have just played with it.

i) setup a grid of 100 nodes
ii) set the radio model to to fixed radius 10
ii) set the scalingfactor to 2

At this point all nodes are isolated. For some reason the radius is divided by 
the scale factor; radius 10 / factor 2 = new-radius 5, hence why all nodes 
are isolated, given they are 10 apart.

The buggyness is in the need to hit ENTER then click update when you change 
the scale; also be patient as I think responsiveness degrades as the network 
size increases.

-- 
Warm regards,

Darren Bishop, MSc, BSc (Hons), MBCS

On Friday 04 August 2006 21:29, Nilay wrote:
> Thanks Darren,
> but that doesnt help too.
> I set up the 50 motes in a grid fashion, the distant of each is by 12.5
> units (when u enable the grid lines). Chose a radio model with radius 10.0
> but still the either mote can reach any other mote which is way more than
> 10.0 units. Can u suggest something more (a plugin usage manual link)or a
> working example.
>
> Thanks,
> Nilay
>
> On Tue, 01 Aug 2006 Darren BISHOP wrote :
> >Hey Nilay,
> >
> >In TinyViz goto the 'Plugins' menu and enable the 'Radio model' plugin.
> > Select the corresponding control panel (on the right) and choose the
> > radio range e.g. 'Fixed radius (10.0)'. You can then scale this by
> > setting the 'Distance scaling factor'; I believe you must use the
> > reciprocal of the factor by which you wish to scale.
> >
> >Hope this helps.
> >
> >Darren
> >
> >Nilay Chheda wrote:
> >>  Thanks Darren,
> >>The real thing I want to do is to limit the radio range to some nodes.
> >>I am simulating around 50 nodes and want to form a tree using them.
> >>The problem here is that the root (mote 0) broadcast and allocates the
> >> even furthest node (consider nodes are placed in a grid fashion)as its
> >> child. So I want to limit the radio range to a certain known distance so
> >> as to form the next level of the tree. As you said I can use the
> >> RadioModel plugin but how do I set the distance so that I can actually
> >> get the relation between the radio range and distance parameters. In
> >> other other words, set a numerical distance between two nodes to get 
> >> the numerical radio range. I hope thats not too confusing.
> >>
> >>Thanks,
> >>Nilay
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