[Tinyos-help] oufff....from where should i start?

2005-11-23 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Hello all...
 
i am kind of confused... totally confused... 

i am intrested in tinyos and nesC. In particular i 
would like to learn some things about these 2 topics and then maybe write an app 
to test my earnings... I tried to start from the official site www.tinyos.net. There, the first thing i 
realised was that they "redirect" you to the links of Moteiv Telos and 
Corssbow Mica to "get started".. But if you read them, you learn some thing 
about the hardware and not learn some usefull stuf... if then, you start reading 
the lessons from the tutorial you ll find some code of nesC apps  but then 
you realize that you dont know not even a singe command of this programming 
language. if you try to learn nesC...you ll find (thats the only official thing 
i found till now) only a reference (nesC 1.1 Language 
Reference Manual)... if you try to learn about tossim, you ll run onto zigbe and 
beacon based algorithms...things i dont even heard before! 
 
Maybe i haven't done a proper search..maybe i ve 
tried to read from the end...i dont know.. 
I am not afraid of reading and searching but please 
tell me from where should i start? what are the documents i should read and what 
is the proper order-cohesion??
 
Many many thanks!
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Re: [Tinyos-help] oufff....from where should i start?

2005-11-23 Thread Kristin Wright
Hmmm. The Getting Started guides are intended for people who have
hardware in their hands. If you'd like to just learn about tinyos
without actually doing anything, check out this paper:

The Emergence of Networking Abstractions and Techniques in TinyOS,
Philip Levis, Sam Madden, David Gay, Joe Polastre, Robert Szewczyk,
Alec Woo, Eric Brewer and David Culler, Proceedings of the First
USENIX/ACM Symposium on Networked Systems Design and Implementation
(NSDI 2004).
link: http://www.tinyos.net/papers/tinyos-nsdi04.pdf

If you'd like to get your hands more into it, try this:
- download and install tinyos
- read the tutorial over and use the platform 'pc' rather than any,
say, mica2 platform; skip to the tutorial lesson regarding tossim if
you'd like to see how to run it

-kw

On 11/23/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hello all...
>
> i am kind of confused... totally confused...
> i am intrested in tinyos and nesC. In particular i would like to learn some
> things about these 2 topics and then maybe write an app to test my
> earnings... I tried to start from the official site www.tinyos.net. There,
> the first thing i realised was that they "redirect" you to the links of
> Moteiv Telos and Corssbow Mica to "get started".. But if you read them, you
> learn some thing about the hardware and not learn some usefull stuf... if
> then, you start reading the lessons from the tutorial you ll find some code
> of nesC apps  but then you realize that you dont know not even a singe
> command of this programming language. if you try to learn nesC...you ll find
> (thats the only official thing i found till now) only a reference (nesC 1.1
> Language Reference Manual)... if you try to learn about tossim, you ll run
> onto zigbe and beacon based algorithms...things i dont even heard before!
>
> Maybe i haven't done a proper search..maybe i ve tried to read from the
> end...i dont know..
> I am not afraid of reading and searching but please tell me from where
> should i start? what are the documents i should read and what is the proper
> order-cohesion??
>
> Many many thanks!
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> 
>  http://www.freemail.gr - δωρεάν υπηρεσία ηλεκτρονικού ταχυδρομείου.
>  http://www.freemail.gr - free email service for the Greek-speaking.
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Re: [Tinyos-help] oufff....from where should i start?

2005-11-24 Thread Antonio D'Ottavio



Really true,
I agree with you in all, this project seems really 
not open also if it is an open source project.
It's not easy to enter in the mechanism respect to 
the gain you can have using it.
The tutorial is a almost good starting point but it 
was never updated, I don't think that 
10 htm pages it's enough, companies like Intel or 
Universities may offer somethng more to the community in term of documentation. 
But I told all this just because in 2 years I've 
not found a way to have a feeling with tinyos and 
sensor networks, maybe one day ... :-)  
Good evening
 
        
        Eng. Antonio D'Ottavio
   
www.etantonio.it/en/
 

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  where should i start?
  
  Hello all...
   
  i am kind of confused... totally confused... 
  
  i am intrested in tinyos and nesC. In particular 
  i would like to learn some things about these 2 topics and then maybe write an 
  app to test my earnings... I tried to start from the official site www.tinyos.net. There, the first thing i 
  realised was that they "redirect" you to the links of Moteiv Telos and 
  Corssbow Mica to "get started".. But if you read them, you learn some thing 
  about the hardware and not learn some usefull stuf... if then, you start 
  reading the lessons from the tutorial you ll find some code of nesC apps  
  but then you realize that you dont know not even a singe command of this 
  programming language. if you try to learn nesC...you ll find (thats the only 
  official thing i found till now) only a reference (nesC 1.1 Language Reference Manual)... if you try to learn about 
  tossim, you ll run onto zigbe and beacon based algorithms...things i dont even 
  heard before! 
   
  Maybe i haven't done a proper search..maybe i ve 
  tried to read from the end...i dont know.. 
  I am not afraid of reading and searching but 
  please tell me from where should i start? what are the documents i should read 
  and what is the proper order-cohesion??
   
  Many many thanks!
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Re: [Tinyos-help] oufff....from where should i start?

2005-11-24 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]




Hmmm. The Getting Started guides are intended for people who have
hardware in their hands. If you'd like to just learn about tinyos
without actually doing anything, check out this paper:

The Emergence of Networking Abstractions and Techniques in TinyOS,
Philip Levis, Sam Madden, David Gay, Joe Polastre, Robert Szewczyk,
Alec Woo, Eric Brewer and David Culler, Proceedings of the First
USENIX/ACM Symposium on Networked Systems Design and Implementation
(NSDI 2004).
link: http://www.tinyos.net/papers/tinyos-nsdi04.pdf



i haven't noticed that one! i ve just downloaded it and i ll check it ;-)
any other good paper for newbies? ;-P



If you'd like to get your hands more into it, try this:
- download and install tinyos


done that;-)


- read the tutorial over and use the platform 'pc' rather than any,
say, mica2 platform; skip to the tutorial lesson regarding tossim if
you'd like to see how to run it


ehmm.. thats what i am working on;-))
of!

many thanks for your answer!
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



-kw

On 11/23/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Hello all...

i am kind of confused... totally confused...
i am intrested in tinyos and nesC. In particular i would like to learn 
some

things about these 2 topics and then maybe write an app to test my
earnings... I tried to start from the official site www.tinyos.net. 
There,

the first thing i realised was that they "redirect" you to the links of
Moteiv Telos and Corssbow Mica to "get started".. But if you read them, 
you

learn some thing about the hardware and not learn some usefull stuf... if
then, you start reading the lessons from the tutorial you ll find some 
code
of nesC apps  but then you realize that you dont know not even a 
singe
command of this programming language. if you try to learn nesC...you ll 
find
(thats the only official thing i found till now) only a reference (nesC 
1.1
Language Reference Manual)... if you try to learn about tossim, you ll 
run

onto zigbe and beacon based algorithms...things i dont even heard before!

Maybe i haven't done a proper search..maybe i ve tried to read from the
end...i dont know..
I am not afraid of reading and searching but please tell me from where
should i start? what are the documents i should read and what is the 
proper

order-cohesion??

Many many thanks!
[EMAIL PROTECTED]






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