RE: [tips] The Boy With The Incredible Brain

[Tollefsrud, Linda]

His autobiography is called _Born on a Blue Day_.   The amazon link is
http://www.amazon.com/Born-Blue-Day-Extraordinary-Autistic/dp/1416535071

 

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University of Wisconsin - Barron County

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From: Christopher D. Green [mailto:chri...@yorku.ca] 
Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 8:05 AM
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Subject: [tips] The Boy With The Incredible Brain

 


See this film about a "savant" in England who can recite pi to 22,500
places, do extraordinary math problems in his head, and learn new
languages in about a week.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4913196365903075662 

He has Asperger's, but unlike most savants, he is quite high functioning
interpersonally.

There is more information about him here:
http://www.mindhacks.com/blog/2009/01/inside_the_mind_of_a.html 

Chris

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RE: [tips] The Boy With The Incredible Brain

[Jim Matiya]

Dr Darold Treffert has worked with him as well.
here is Dr. Treffert's link, 
http://www.wisconsinmedicalsociety.org/savant_syndrome/
 
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Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 09:04:37 -0500From: chri...@yorku.cato: 
t...@acsun.frostburg.edusubject: [tips] The Boy With The Incredible Brain

See this film about a "savant" in England who can recite pi to 22,500 places, 
do extraordinary math problems in his head, and learn new languages in about a 
week. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4913196365903075662 He has 
Asperger's, but unlike most savants, he is quite high functioning 
interpersonally.There is more information about him here: 
http://www.mindhacks.com/blog/2009/01/inside_the_mind_of_a.html Chris
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Re: [tips] The Boy With The Incredible Brain

[Beth Benoit]

One of my students made a DVD of this young man's appearance on 60 Minutes.
 it's now on youtube:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbASOcqc1Ss

On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 10:13 AM, Jim Matiya  wrote:

>
> Dr Darold Treffert has worked with him as well.
> here is Dr. Treffert's link,
> http://www.wisconsinmedicalsociety.org/savant_syndrome/
>
> JIm
>
> Jim Matiya
> Florida Gulf Coast University
> jmat...@fgcu.edu
>
> Contributor, for Karen Huffman's *Psychology in Action, *Video Guest
> Lecturettes
>
> John Wiley and Sons.
>
>
>
> Using David Myers' texts for AP Psychology? Go to
>
> http://bcs.worthpublishers.com/cppsych/
>
> High School Psychology and Advanced Psychology Graphic Organizers,
>
> Pacing Guides, and Daily Lesson Plans archived at 
> www.Teaching-Point.net
>
>
>
>
> --
> Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 09:04:37 -0500
> From: chri...@yorku.ca
> To: tips@acsun.frostburg.edu
> Subject: [tips] The Boy With The Incredible Brain
>
>
>
>
> See this film about a "savant" in England who can recite pi to 22,500
> places, do extraordinary math problems in his head, and learn new languages
> in about a week.
> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4913196365903075662
>
> He has Asperger's, but unlike most savants, he is quite high functioning
> interpersonally.
>
> There is more information about him here:
> http://www.mindhacks.com/blog/2009/01/inside_the_mind_of_a.html
>
> Chris
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>
> Christopher D. Green
> Department of Psychology
> York University
> Toronto, ON M3J 1P3
> Canada
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Re: [tips] The Boy With The Incredible Brain

[Rick Stevens]

I recorded this show and show it sometimes in class.  His '22,500' places of
pi is billed as a memory event but I have wondered if he was not 'just'
calculating as he went along.  Chao Lu may still hold the record at 67,890
places.

I found his meeting with Kim Peek to be interesting, too.

RS

On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 8:04 AM, Christopher D. Green wrote:

>
> See this film about a "savant" in England who can recite pi to 22,500
> places, do extraordinary math problems in his head, and learn new languages
> in about a week.
> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4913196365903075662
>
> He has Asperger's, but unlike most savants, he is quite high functioning
> interpersonally.
>
> There is more information about him here:
> http://www.mindhacks.com/blog/2009/01/inside_the_mind_of_a.html
>
> Chris
> --
>
> Christopher D. Green
> Department of Psychology
> York University
> Toronto, ON M3J 1P3
> Canada
>
>
>
> 416-736-2100 ex. 66164
> chri...@yorku.ca
> http://www.yorku.ca/christo/
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Re: [tips] The Boy With The Incredible Brain

[Sandy Price]

If you are in the intelligence chapter, here's a resource.  Around 23 
minutes the video shows a meeting between Kim Peek, the inspiration for 
Rainman, and Daniel Tammet.  I did not watch the following portion whieh 
takes Daniel to Las Vegas.


Sandy


Rick Stevens wrote:


I recorded this show and show it sometimes in class.  His '22,500' 
places of pi is billed as a memory event but I have wondered if he was 
not 'just' calculating as he went along.  Chao Lu may still hold the 
record at 67,890 places.


I found his meeting with Kim Peek to be interesting, too.

RS

On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 8:04 AM, Christopher D. Green > wrote:



See this film about a "savant" in England who can recite pi to
22,500 places, do extraordinary math problems in his head, and
learn new languages in about a week.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4913196365903075662

He has Asperger's, but unlike most savants, he is quite high
functioning interpersonally.

There is more information about him here:
http://www.mindhacks.com/blog/2009/01/inside_the_mind_of_a.html

Chris
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Department of Psychology
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Re:[tips] The Boy With The Incredible Brain

[Allen Esterson]

On 10 January 2009 Rick Stevens wrote:
> I recorded this show and show it sometimes in class. 
> His '22,500' places of pi is billed as a memory event 
> but I have wondered if he was not 'just' calculating as
> he went along. [...] 

There is no straightforward formula for pi that he could have used to
calculate as he went along. (Not at the rate he was going all the way
through!) See, e.g., Leibniz's formula

pi/4 = 1 - 1/3 + 1/5 - 1/7 + 1/9 - 1/11 + 1/13 - 1/15 + 1/17 - 1/19... ad
infinitum 

(For the later decimal digits for pi he would have had to have calculated
hundreds of these terms for every digit -- and then add them together.)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leibniz_formula_for_pi

Hands up all those who think pi = 22/7. :-)

Allen Esterson
Former lecturer, Science Department
Southwark College, London
http://www.esterson.org


Subject: Re: The Boy With The Incredible Brain
From: "Rick Stevens" 
Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 08:29:54 -0600

I recorded this show and show it sometimes in class.  His '22,500' places
of
pi is billed as a memory event but I have wondered if he was not 'just'
calculating as he went along.  Chao Lu may still hold the record at 67,890
places.

I found his meeting with Kim Peek to be interesting, too.

RS

On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 8:04 AM, Christopher D. Green
wrote:

>
> See this film about a "savant" in England who can recite pi to 22,500
> places, do extraordinary math problems in his head, and learn new
languages
> in about a week.
> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4913196365903075662
>
> He has Asperger's, but unlike most savants, he is quite high functioning
> interpersonally.
>
> There is more information about him here:
> http://www.mindhacks.com/blog/2009/01/inside_the_mind_of_a.html
>
> Chris
> --
>
> Christopher D. Green
> Department of Psychology
> York University
> Toronto, ON M3J 1P3
> Canada
>
>
>
> 416-736-2100 ex. 66164
> chri...@yorku.ca
> http://www.yorku.ca/christo/

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Re:[tips] The Boy With The Incredible Brain

[Mike Palij]

On Sun, 11 Jan 2009 04:13:51 -0800, Allen Esterson wrote:
>Hands up all those who think pi = 22/7. :-)

It's good enough for government work! ;-)  For a somewhat
interesting history on the development of pi and where 22/7
falls as an approximation of pi see:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_numerical_approximations_of_%CF%80

Then again, if one has faith in the Bible, then pi =3.00. End of story. :-)
This is covered briefly around the middle of the above page.

-Mike Palij
New York University
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Re: [tips] The Boy With The Incredible Brain

[Christopher D. Green]

Allen Esterson wrote:
> On 10 January 2009 Rick Stevens wrote:
>   
>> I recorded this show and show it sometimes in class. 
>> His '22,500' places of pi is billed as a memory event 
>> but I have wondered if he was not 'just' calculating as
>> he went along. [...] 
>> 
>
> There is no straightforward formula for pi that he could have used to
> calculate as he went along. (Not at the rate he was going all the way
> through!) See, e.g., Leibniz's formula
>
> pi/4 = 1 - 1/3 + 1/5 - 1/7 + 1/9 - 1/11 + 1/13 - 1/15 + 1/17 - 1/19... ad
> infinitum 
>   

As I recall, the legislature of Kentucky (or was it Tennessee?) 
attempted to "solve" this annoying problem at some point (back in the 
1980s?) by simply legislating pi to be equal to 3. (To think otherwise 
would be to limit their constitutional liberties.) :-)

And by the way, according to latest figures, 14% of American adults 
cannot read. That's 32 million (about the total population of Canada) 
who "lack basic prose literacy skill. That means they can't read a 
newspaper or the instruction on a bottle of pills."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/livescience/20090110/sc_livescience/14percentofusadultscantread
 


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Re: [tips] The Boy With The Incredible Brain

[Ken Steele]

Allen:

Is it possible that he picked up on a pattern of change in the 
digits and was using a IF  THEN  type of algorithm to 
predict the next values?


The miracle is being able to produce a string of 22,500 words 
that are comprised of only 10 words.


Ken


Allen Esterson wrote:

On 10 January 2009 Rick Stevens wrote:
I recorded this show and show it sometimes in class. 
His '22,500' places of pi is billed as a memory event 
but I have wondered if he was not 'just' calculating as
he went along. [...] 


There is no straightforward formula for pi that he could have used to
calculate as he went along. (Not at the rate he was going all the way
through!) See, e.g., Leibniz's formula

pi/4 = 1 - 1/3 + 1/5 - 1/7 + 1/9 - 1/11 + 1/13 - 1/15 + 1/17 - 1/19... ad
infinitum 


(For the later decimal digits for pi he would have had to have calculated
hundreds of these terms for every digit -- and then add them together.)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leibniz_formula_for_pi

Hands up all those who think pi = 22/7. :-)

Allen Esterson
Former lecturer, Science Department
Southwark College, London
http://www.esterson.org


Subject: Re: The Boy With The Incredible Brain
From: "Rick Stevens" 
Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 08:29:54 -0600

I recorded this show and show it sometimes in class.  His '22,500' places
of
pi is billed as a memory event but I have wondered if he was not 'just'
calculating as he went along.  Chao Lu may still hold the record at 67,890
places.

I found his meeting with Kim Peek to be interesting, too.

RS

On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 8:04 AM, Christopher D. Green
wrote:


See this film about a "savant" in England who can recite pi to 22,500
places, do extraordinary math problems in his head, and learn new

languages

in about a week.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4913196365903075662

He has Asperger's, but unlike most savants, he is quite high functioning
interpersonally.

There is more information about him here:
http://www.mindhacks.com/blog/2009/01/inside_the_mind_of_a.html

Chris
--

Christopher D. Green
Department of Psychology
York University
Toronto, ON M3J 1P3
Canada



416-736-2100 ex. 66164
chri...@yorku.ca
http://www.yorku.ca/christo/


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Re:[tips] The Boy With The Incredible Brain

[Allen Esterson]

Subject: Re: The Boy With The Incredible Brain

Ken Steele asked: 
>Is it possible that he picked up on a pattern of change
>in the digits and was using a IF  THEN  type 
>of algorithm to predict the next values?

1. You'd have to check this out with a pure mathematician, but I don't
think there is any such pattern of change in any of the formulae for pi
(which, anyway, I suspect he is unlikely to know).

2. He works with shapes and colours that spontaneously come into his mind,
not algorithms.

Allen Esterson
Former lecturer, Science Department
Southwark College, London
http://www.esterson.org

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From: Ken Steele 
Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 12:21:56 -0500
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Allen:

Is it possible that he picked up on a pattern of change in the 
digits and was using a IF  THEN  type of algorithm to 
predict the next values?

The miracle is being able to produce a string of 22,500 words 
that are comprised of only 10 words.

Ken


Allen Esterson wrote:
> On 10 January 2009 Rick Stevens wrote:
>> I recorded this show and show it sometimes in class. 
>> His '22,500' places of pi is billed as a memory event 
>> but I have wondered if he was not 'just' calculating as
>> he went along. [...] 
> 
> There is no straightforward formula for pi that he could have used to
> calculate as he went along. (Not at the rate he was going all the way
> through!) See, e.g., Leibniz's formula
> 
> pi/4 = 1 - 1/3 + 1/5 - 1/7 + 1/9 - 1/11 + 1/13 - 1/15 + 1/17 - 1/19... ad
> infinitum 
> 
> (For the later decimal digits for pi he would have had to have calculated
> hundreds of these terms for every digit -- and then add them together.)
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leibniz_formula_for_pi
> 
> Hands up all those who think pi = 22/7. :-)
> 
> Allen Esterson
> Former lecturer, Science Department
> Southwark College, London
> http://www.esterson.org

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