white people jumping?

2000-09-18 Thread Hatcher, Joe

Hello all,
I ran across, somewhere, a description of a study investigating the
concept of stereotype threat, as proposed by Claude Steele, that had white
people jump under different conditions, finding, as I recall, results
supporting the ST prediction.  Problem is, I have a student who would like
to work on this, and we can't find the article.  I suspect it may have been
a conference presentation described either on TIPS or somewhere else; if
anyone can help us out, my student and I would be very appreciative.

TIA,

Joe Hatcher
Ripon College
Ripon, WI  54971
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Re: white people jumping?

2000-09-18 Thread Patrick O. Dolan

Not exactly what you had in mind, but very similar.  I'd try emailing
Claude Steele to see if he has done the study you describe.

Hope this helps
Patrick

Stone, Perry& Darley (1997).  "White men can't jump": Evidence for
the perceptual confirmation of racial stereotypes following a
basketball game. Basic & Applied Social Psychology, 19, 291-306.



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- Original Message -
From: Hatcher, Joe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, September 18, 2000 8:15 AM
Subject: white people jumping?


> Hello all,
> I ran across, somewhere, a description of a study investigating the
> concept of stereotype threat, as proposed by Claude Steele, that had
white
> people jump under different conditions, finding, as I recall,
results
> supporting the ST prediction.  Problem is, I have a student who
would like
> to work on this, and we can't find the article.  I suspect it may
have been
> a conference presentation described either on TIPS or somewhere
else; if
> anyone can help us out, my student and I would be very appreciative.
>
> TIA,
>
> Joe Hatcher
> Ripon College
> Ripon, WI  54971
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]




Guest Speaker(?)

2000-09-18 Thread Shirley-Anne Hensch

Tipsters:

Imagine that your department had a 'relatively unlimited' amount of money
available, and you were asked to select one speaker who would come to your
campus and do a presentation on some current topic for your Introductory
Psychology students.  Who would you suggest the department invite?

Shirley Hensch

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Levitation

2000-09-18 Thread sylvestm


I saw a program where David Blaine (Street Magic) was able to levitate  from the 
ground he
stood on.
I would like to learn the art of levitation so that I can give demonstrations in  
class.
Please send advice.

Michael Sylvester,PhD
Daytona Beach,Florida

   "Seeing is
believing"


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developmental thanks

2000-09-18 Thread Jim Guinee

Thanks to all those who responded publicly and privately to my questions 
about demonstrations in developmental psych with small children.  The 
wisdom and acumen available on this list never ceases to amaze me.

Happy Monday

Jim


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sports psych

2000-09-18 Thread Jim Guinee

Hi,

I have a student who recently became very interested in sports psychology.

He wanted to know if there are any graduate programs out there that offer 
this type of focus.  Any information I can pass on to him?

I always thought getting training and experience in sports psych was more of 
a postdoc thing, but I could be wrong.

Thanks, Jim


*
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Adjunct Professor,  Dept. of Psychology/Counseling
 Dept. of Health Sciences
President, Arkansas College Counselor Association
University of Central Arkansas
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 -Benjamin Franklin
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Re: Guest Speaker(?)

2000-09-18 Thread Beth Benoit

Can I suggest more than one?

1.  (Our own) Dave Myers - I've heard him speak twice, once at APA.  He has
warmth and charm and he gave a very interesting presentation about the work
he did to find out about happiness in people.  Could touch on research
methods, social psych., even abnormal.  He's at Hope College and has
textbooks in social and general psychology.
2.  Claude Steele
3.  Phil Zimbardo
4.  (Our own)  Stephen Black - you know all of us at TIPS would love to meet
him and hear him talk about anything.  (He's going to kill me for this, and
I've never personally met him - only in cyberspace!!!)

Beth Benoit
University of Massachusetts Lowell

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>From: Shirley-Anne Hensch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "TIPS" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Guest Speaker(?)
>Date: Mon, Sep 18, 2000, 10:46 AM
>

> Tipsters:
>
> Imagine that your department had a 'relatively unlimited' amount of money
> available, and you were asked to select one speaker who would come to your
> campus and do a presentation on some current topic for your Introductory
> Psychology students.  Who would you suggest the department invite?
>
> Shirley Hensch
>
> --
> Shirley Hensch, Ph.D.
> Associate Professor
> Department of Psychology
> University of Wisconsin - Marshfield/Wood County
> mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> --
>
>
> 



Re: Guest Speaker(?)

2000-09-18 Thread Bill McCown, Ph.D.

Is this list limited to the living? I don't mean that to be funny




Re: Levitation

2000-09-18 Thread Matthew Raney


> I saw a program where David Blaine (Street Magic) was able to levitate
> from the ground he stood on. I would like to learn the art of
> levitation so that I can give demonstrations in class. Please send
> advice.

I think it should be analogous to the art of flying, which simply involves
falling and missing the ground.  Consult D. Adams for more refined
instruction.  *grin*




RE: Levitation

2000-09-18 Thread Rick Adams

Michael Sylvester wrote:

> I saw a program where David Blaine (Street Magic) was able to
> levitate  from the ground he
> stood on.

> I would like to learn the art of levitation so that I can give
> demonstrations in  class.
> Please send advice.

It's a matter of faith in your self, Michael.

Dress in your finest clothing, stand on a diving board of a swimming pool,
and have faith that you can walk on air to reach the other side of the pool
without falling into the water. If you have enough ability to focus your
mind on your belief, you'll do just fine. Otherwise . . .

Let us know how the demonstration goes.

Rick
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Jackson Community College
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Re: sports psych

2000-09-18 Thread Helen C. Harton

> I have a student who recently became very interested in sports psychology.
> 
> He wanted to know if there are any graduate programs out there that offer 
> this type of focus.  Any information I can pass on to him?

Try:

Sachs, M. L., Burke, K. L., & Butcher, L. A. (Eds.) (1995). Directory of 
graduate programs in applied sport psychology. Morgantown, WV: Fitness 
Information Technology Inc.

Their phone number listed inside the book is 800-477-4348.


Helen C. Harton
Department of Psychology
University of Northern Iowa
Cedar Falls, IA 50614-0505



Re: Levitation

2000-09-18 Thread Mike Scoles

Is this related to the "white people jumping" thread?

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I saw a program where David Blaine (Street Magic) was able to levitate  from the 
>ground he
> stood on.
> I would like to learn the art of levitation so that I can give demonstrations in  
>class.
> Please send advice.

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Re: Sports Psychology

2000-09-18 Thread truhons

I have a student with the same interest. Check out
http://www.psyc.unt.edu/apadiv47/

Stephen Truhon
Dept. of Social Sciences
Winston-Salem State University
Winston-Salem, NC 27110



Upgrading of TIPS software

2000-09-18 Thread Bill Southerly

Date sent:  18-SEP-2000 17:59:54 

TIPSters,

Our computer support people will be upgrading the software that runs
TIPS on Wednesday, September 20 so our system will be down during Wednesday
for some time.  If all goes well, then TIPS should be running again on 
Wednesday evening.  However, if problems develop TIPS will be down until
the problems are solved.

Best wishes,

Bill

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RE: Guest Speaker(?)

2000-09-18 Thread Rick Adams

Bill wrote:

> Is this list limited to the living? I don't mean that to be funny

Not at all. It was _very_ dead last month & we _do_ offer equal time to
Graveyard Grannies . . .

Rick Adams
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Guest speaker--NOT!

2000-09-18 Thread Stephen Black

I suppose I'm better off just ignoring this. But I feel compelled
to point out that Beth Benoit has never heard me speak. There may
be a very good reason why my preferred mode of communication is 
e-mail. 

-Stephen


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RE: Guest Speaker(?)

2000-09-18 Thread Nathalie Cote

For current topics (sensation and perception) I'd choose the Amazing Randi,
for the middle of the term (cognitive) I'd choose John Bransford, for near
the end of the term (social influence)I'd choose Zimbardo, and then at the
end when we get to psychological disorders I'd get Martin Seligman. Those
are the "off the top of my head" choices.
Nathalie Cote

> -Original Message-
> From: Shirley-Anne Hensch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, September 18, 2000 10:46 AM
> To: TIPS
> Subject: Guest Speaker(?)
> 
> 
> Tipsters:
> 
> Imagine that your department had a 'relatively unlimited' 
> amount of money
> available, and you were asked to select one speaker who would 
> come to your
> campus and do a presentation on some current topic for your 
> Introductory
> Psychology students.  Who would you suggest the department invite?
> 
> Shirley Hensch
> 
> --
> Shirley Hensch, Ph.D.
> Associate Professor
> Department of Psychology
> University of Wisconsin - Marshfield/Wood County
> mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> --
> 
> 



Re: Levitation

2000-09-18 Thread Stuart Mckelvie

Advice:

Practice hop(p)ing.

Hoping you hop,

Stuart




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> Subject:   Levitation
> Date:  Mon, 18 Sep 2000 15:45:43 +

> 
> I saw a program where David Blaine (Street Magic) was able to levitate  from the 
>ground he
> stood on.
> I would like to learn the art of levitation so that I can give demonstrations in  
>class.
> Please send advice.
> 
> Michael Sylvester,PhD
> Daytona Beach,Florida
> 
>"Seeing is
> believing"
> 
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Re: Guest Speaker(?)

2000-09-18 Thread Jim Matiya

A no-brainer.

Phil Zimbardo is prepared, engaging, and quite simply, a wonderful teacher in
the field of psychology.  He is a very good storyteller and his involvement
with  psychology is lengendary.  I had dinner with him, and I had so many
questions that the evening was not enough.  I have not always agreed with
everthing he has done, but  he is good, I cannot deny that.

jim

Shirley-Anne Hensch wrote:

> Tipsters:
>
> Imagine that your department had a 'relatively unlimited' amount of money
> available, and you were asked to select one speaker who would come to your
> campus and do a presentation on some current topic for your Introductory
> Psychology students.  Who would you suggest the department invite?
>
> Shirley Hensch
>
> --
> Shirley Hensch, Ph.D.
> Associate Professor
> Department of Psychology
> University of Wisconsin - Marshfield/Wood County
> mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> --




You're not going to believe this question

2000-09-18 Thread Stephen Black

I hope it's not Beth's unwarranted praise that's making me post
excessively tonight. But I need an answer to this question
urgently.

Believe it or not, I have a comment under consideration in a
psychological journal which uses the phrase "get off your fanny".
A reviewer has commented "the author might care to note that the
term "fanny" is slang for vagina in some English speaking
countries".

Really? In my country, it refers to a totally different part of
the anatomy. Can anyone confirm this, and tell me in which
countries this is common?

(Note: this is a serious question and I don't want to talk about
keeping peckers up either.)

-Stephen


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Re: Levitation

2000-09-18 Thread jim clark

Hi

On Mon, 18 Sep 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I saw a program where David Blaine (Street Magic) was able to
> levitate from the ground he stood on.

I hate to suggest this possibility, but perhaps magic (i.e.,
"cheating") was involved.  Others on this list apparently would
be unwilling to consider that possibility without positive
evidence of cheating.

> I would like to learn the art of levitation so that I can
> give demonstrations in class. Please send advice.

I would suggest "don't," but if you are serious, I would
recommend some advice that I gave last time this came up (was it
here?).  Fill your head with flighty, nonsensical,
lighter-than-air ideas and you might be able to manage
levitation.  Another possibility I hadn't thought of would be to
fill your audience (i.e., students?) with nonsensical ideas, so
that they are easier to manipulate (e.g., you weren't watching
closely enough, too many skeptics make it difficult for me to
levitate, only very enlightened people are permitted to "see" the
act of levitation, ...).  Let us know how things worked out.

Best wishes
Jim


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Re: Levitation

2000-09-18 Thread Michael J. Kane

At 03:45 PM 9/18/00 +, M. Sylvester wrote:

>I saw a program where David Blaine (Street Magic) was able to 
>levitate  from the ground he
>stood on.
>I would like to learn the art of levitation so that I can give 
>demonstrations in  class.
>Please send advice.

One thing you could do is vote for John Hagelin, the presidential candidate 
for the
Natural Law Party/Reform Party coalition.  One of the main goals of the 
party is to establish
a core group of 700-some experts to practice transcendental meditation and 
*yogic flying* as
a means to positively impact our collective unconscious.

More to the point:  As it was a Fox program, I can't vouch for it's 
accuracy, but a special called
"Street Magic Secrets Revealed" indicated that much of Blaine's levitation 
illusion (rising several
feet in the air) was produced via special effects *off camera*, and not on 
the street.  The part of
the illusion performed live on the street with spectators was rather 
subtle, suggesting a brief
levitation of just a few inches.

-Mike


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Re: sports psych

2000-09-18 Thread Annette Taylor

Just check out graduate study in psych--there are a couple there and I
bet if you searched the web you'd find more.
annette

On Mon, 18 Sep 2000, Jim  Guinee wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I have a student who recently became very interested in sports psychology.
> 
> He wanted to know if there are any graduate programs out there that offer 
> this type of focus.  Any information I can pass on to him?
> 
> I always thought getting training and experience in sports psych was more of 
> a postdoc thing, but I could be wrong.
> 
> Thanks, Jim
> 
> 
> *
> Jim Guinee, Ph.D.  Director of Training, Counseling Center   
> Adjunct Professor,  Dept. of Psychology/Counseling
>  Dept. of Health Sciences
> President, Arkansas College Counselor Association
> University of Central Arkansas
> 313 Bernard HallConway, AR  72035USA   
> (501) 450-3138 (office)  (501) 450-3248 (fax)
> 
> "Search others for their virtues, they self for thy vices."
>  -Benjamin Franklin
> *
> 

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Re: Guest Speaker(?)

2000-09-18 Thread Jim Matiya

Hi Beth,
I do enjoy hearing David.  He is an excellent choice and is very responsive to
so many people including students and teachers.  I would vote for Zimbardo...but
Stephen intrigues me.  This man's knowledge of articles and original research
kind of scares me(that's a compliment Stephen!!!)

jim

Beth Benoit wrote:

> Can I suggest more than one?
>
> 1.  (Our own) Dave Myers - I've heard him speak twice, once at APA.  He has
> warmth and charm and he gave a very interesting presentation about the work
> he did to find out about happiness in people.  Could touch on research
> methods, social psych., even abnormal.  He's at Hope College and has
> textbooks in social and general psychology.
> 2.  Claude Steele
> 3.  Phil Zimbardo
> 4.  (Our own)  Stephen Black - you know all of us at TIPS would love to meet
> him and hear him talk about anything.  (He's going to kill me for this, and
> I've never personally met him - only in cyberspace!!!)
>
> Beth Benoit
> University of Massachusetts Lowell
>
> --
> >From: Shirley-Anne Hensch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: "TIPS" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: Guest Speaker(?)
> >Date: Mon, Sep 18, 2000, 10:46 AM
> >
>
> > Tipsters:
> >
> > Imagine that your department had a 'relatively unlimited' amount of money
> > available, and you were asked to select one speaker who would come to your
> > campus and do a presentation on some current topic for your Introductory
> > Psychology students.  Who would you suggest the department invite?
> >
> > Shirley Hensch
> >
> > --
> > Shirley Hensch, Ph.D.
> > Associate Professor
> > Department of Psychology
> > University of Wisconsin - Marshfield/Wood County
> > mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > --
> >
> >
> >




Re: Ever hopeful, I post more questions

2000-09-18 Thread Sharon Carnahan

RE: Bipolar drugs:

I have known cases of people increasing their dosage of a drug in order to
"manage" behavior that they intend to consciously pursue which is clearly
destabilizing, such as doubling a dose during the week of exams (late nights,
high stress, lost sleep, etc.) or decreasing/stopping a dose when they wanted to
ride the wave of energy provided by a hypomanic state.  Generally one trip to
the residential treatment center cures a tendency to self manage in this way,
but sometimes (or with more severely affected people) it can take a lot longer.
People with BPDisorder are often prescribed sleeping meds or antianxiety meds
(Lithium plus Effexor plus Xanax PRN, for example) and some become dependent
upon the antianxiety or sleeping medication.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Tipsters,
>
> A couple of questions from my ever-curious students:
>
> 1) Although some scientists claim that there is no predisposition for spoken
> language (as opposed to gestural) my developmental psych students noticed in
> one video of deaf children who were learning to sign, that the children were
> vocalizing anyway. he students wondered whether speech might be the brain's
> preferred mode of language on the basis of this. I pointed out that hearing
> babies move their hands, too, although this doesn't necessarily indicate any
> predisposition for gestural language. But I thought I would ask anyway, is
> there any definitive answer available regarding the speech versus gestural
> language preference in the human brain?
>
> 2) Is it possible for a person with bipolar illness to abuse his or her
> prescribed mood stabilizing drug (in some way other than by not taking it)?
> What would be the results of such abuse?
>
> I am still hoping for an answer to my thalamus question, if anyone is
> interested -- what is the location of the thalamus? Or is there no agreement
> on this matter?
>
> Hope you are all having a good weekend.
>
> Nancy Melucci
> PACE - LAHC
> Tips abuser & Instructor, Harbor College




Levitation and David Blaine Street Magic

2000-09-18 Thread Maxwell Gwynn

Michael:

I enjoyed the portions of the David Blaine program that I caught, and I
hope that the amateur and not-so-amateur magicians in our midst will
enlighten us on ways to incorporate such magic into psych lectures.  Such
demonstrations help keep students' interest levels up near the end
of a 3-hour evening lecture. 

I believe that the levitation stunt involved Blaine leaning, rocking
forward and balancing on a long stick he had hidden upon his person, thus
moving his feet up off the ground for an instant. He asked the viewers to
stand close together behind him, so he must have been shielding something
from view behind his legs.  Great illusion, if you ask me! I don't think
it would work in a class room, as the lines of sight are too wide.

I'm sorry I didn't videotape the show for later replay and freeze-framing,
as I'm wont to do with televised magic shows. I know, it takes all the fun
out of it if you know how it's done, but scientists are supposed to be
curious and seekers of "reality", aren't we? 

I also enjoyed the "I know what card (or number) you picked" trick, and
may use it to demonstrate base rates (most commonly selected cards or
numbers) in class. I think that the "odd number between 10 and 50..." 
stunt has been discussed on this list (37 most commonly chosen). As well,
we of course only saw the participants for whom the correct choice was
made by Blaine; I could easily put together a video wherein I correctly
guess a number of people's card, name, favorite color, or astrological
sign. It would, of course, involve leaving a lot of (incorrect) guesses on
the cutting room floor... 

Magically,

- Max the Magnificent ;-)


On Mon, 18 Sep 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> 
> I saw a program where David Blaine (Street Magic) was able to levitate  from the 
>ground he
> stood on.
> I would like to learn the art of levitation so that I can give demonstrations in  
>class.
> Please send advice.
> 
> Michael Sylvester,PhD
> Daytona Beach,Florida
> 
>"Seeing is
> believing"
> 
> 

Maxwell Gwynn, PhD  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Department of Psychology(519) 884-0710 ext 3854
Wilfrid Laurier University
Waterloo, Ontario  N2L 3C5 Canada





Re: Turner's syndrome

2000-09-18 Thread Stephen Black

On Sun, 17 Sep 2000, Linda Walsh wrote:

> Browsing the sex chapters of assorted biopsych texts, preparing for class
> tomorrow, I came across a discrepancy I thought Tipsters might be able to
> resolve. Rosenzweig et al states that Turner's syndrome is associated with
> poorly developed but recognizable ovaries. Klein says that female development
> proceeds up to a point, but that 2 X chromosomes are necessary for the ovaries
> to produce eggs, so Turner's results in infertility. Carlson, on the other
> hand, says that 2 X chromosomes are necessary to produce ovaries, thus
> individuals with Turner's have no gonads at all. This sounds wrong to me. Is
> there anthere total absence of ovarian function in Turner's (e.g. secondary sex
> chars, menstruation). Anyone know the specifics of why 2 X are necessary for
> ova production?

I'm now discussing non-disjunction in my child psychology
lectures, so I thought I'd see what I could find related to this
question. I'd say they're all about right. I have an
authoritative source (White, 1994) which states:

"The classical features [of Turner] include...failure of gonadal
development [this and following references omitted]. Germ cells
are present in the gonads of 45,X embryos, but begin to
deteriorate in late fetal life. By early childhood, there are
usually no oocytes remaining, and the gonads consist of fibrous
streaks...In the Turner syndrome, it has been proposed that
absence or structural abnormality of one X chromosome precludes
or disrupts the normal X pairing process in the fetal ovary,
which eventually leads to premature germ cell loss."

But my real motivation in responding is so I can tell you about a
truly remarkable new hypothesis to explain why boys are much
more antsy than girls.  Turner syndrome is the clue (see
McGuffin & Scourfield, 1997)

Turner cases have only a single X, which they get either from the
father or the mother (about 80% from the mother, meaning that the
sperm is defective in these cases). Amazingly, when they get the
X from the mother, they turn out to have social difficulties,
such as "offensive or disruptive behavior" much more frequently
than when they get the X from the father. This is the phenomenon
of genetic imprinting: who passes the chromosome on counts. 

And here's the great hypothesis. Boys have a Y, supplied by their
father, and one X chromosome, which they must get from their
mother. The same X that makes Turner girls misbehave. So it's
possible that it's the mother's X which makes the boys act like
boys. Ironic, isn't it?

-Stephen

McGuffin, P., & Scourfield, J. (1997). A father's imprint on his
  daughter's thinking. Nature, 387, 652--

White, B. (1994). Ch. 9. The Turner syndrome: Origin, cytogenetic
  variants, and factors influencing the phenotype. In:
  Broman, S. and Grafman, J. (eds) Atypical Cognitive
  Deficits in Developmental Disorders. Lawrence Erlbaum.


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Re: developmental question

2000-09-18 Thread Jim Guinee

Hi,

Someone requested a viewing of the suggestions I was given regarding 
developmental activities with small children in the classroom.

I can't imagine that some of the private posters would mind me sharing this 
info.  On the off chance they didn't want to be identified, I've summarized the 
information sent to me.

Thanks, Jim G

I specialize in developmental assessments, and I bring a 3 month old and parents to
class every term for about 3/4 of the class period.

In class, the 32 month old will probably be fine.
The 18 month old may cling to you for the whole time, or may be very disconcerted by
the presence of the whole class.

Try the Denver Developmental Screenng Test II or the Ages and Stages Questionnaire for
a list of developmental tasks.

Don't know how big the class is, but dim the lights on them a bit if possible

Could the class meet you in a nearby park?

Some suggestions to note age differences:

stack small alphabet blocks
ask child to put a toy under, next to, on top of, behind where you are seated
sing familiar songs and observe which child can do words, motions, etc.
play catch and kick with a big ish ball
have several students write down everything each child says during the observation, and
compare mean length of utterance, grammatical structure, and size of volabulary
bring each child's favorite book and have a group of students note similarities and
differences between the 2 books, and what appeals to each age developmentally
have several students count the average length of time each child spends on any one
task

Bring your partner and let students pre-prepare a list of questions for the partner
(like"How has being  a parent changed your time schedule?")

Have fun -- the best is afterwards, when you can say "remember what the 18 month old
could do?" for the rest of the semester!


Some obvious first tasks/demos would be object permanence (ala Piaget) 
and a language sample/analysis.


I have done things like this twice.  One time, I had an 8-month-old come
to class (with his dad).  I asked one of the School Psychology doctoral
students (who specialized in infant assessment) to come into class and
show the students the normal abilities at this age and the challenges, etc
of testing.

The other time, I had all the students in the class bring their kids to
class.  (It was at a community college and most students did have a child
or 2.)  We had kids ranging from 6 months to 12.  I brought all the stuff
to do the standard Piagetian conservation tasks (colored water and 2
containers of different sizes, playdough, etc) and we did appropriate
tests with each of the kids.  (Of course, there are more modern tasks but
these are classics and are in every text.)

Both classes loved these activities. I think the children involved enjoyed
them too.  I definitely wouldn't consider taking your children if you
thought there was any harm, if they are very shy and anxious around
people, etc.  (One time I was asked to take my son to a Child Psyc class,
but it would have been during his nap at a time when he needed naps, so I
said no.) But if not, it would probably be enjoyable for all.


It is an interesting question. Using the two as a "live" demonstration
seems like a very good experience for them. I've seen others doing this
and they just kind of use kitchen props and everyday objects. 

You could, for example go buy some clay or playdough to show conservation 
but it will probably work to just pour kool-aid into glasses of different
hights/diameters. There are a couple of good Piaget films (assuming your
schools have them- our education department has many) and you could just
make up analogies. Hiding things under a book or in a match box, making
something disappear etc. works well then ask the child to explain what
they saw etc. Short of the film just look in a cognitive development text
or in the class demonstration supplements to developmental texts and copy
or make up analogues for those. 

The couple of times I've seen this done it
works even when it doesn't. One reason I suspect, is that many of your
students are probably only children, youngest, or just generally haven't
been around 18 - 36 mth olds in a very long time. Of course, there is
always the potential for catastrophy (crying, fear of the class etc.-
probably less likely with your own kids!). 

*
My kids speak fondly of their memories of coming into my classes
throughout the childhood.

For kids at those ages, you might