Vision Questions

2001-03-06 Thread Claudia Stanny

Larry Daily asks:

>1. Do blind people "see" anything? My thought was that someone blind from
>birth would have no visual experience at all, or they wouldn't be able to
>report it, not having the experience of "normal" vision to compare to. On
>the other hand, someone blinded as a result of disease or injury after
>growing up sighted - what do they experience? Is it a uniform black (or gray
>or some other color) field? Is it like having your eyes closed in a dark
>room?
>

I don't know what the subjective experience would be like.  I think perhaps
you might be thinking of the phenomenon of blind sight, which occurs
sometimes in individuals who lose vision as a result of a brain injury.
These individuals have no conscious experience of sight but will duck to
avoid getting hit by an object tossed at them and can respond at
above-chance levels about whether a light was turned on in their right vs.
left visual field when they are told to guess.  My understanding of this is
that the eyes are functional and sub-cortical visual areas mediate these
responses.

>2. Are there folks who are color-blind as a result of having no cones at
>all? This seems unlikely to me (isn't the fovea all cones?), but I wasn't
>sure.

Oliver Sacks wrote a book about this unusual condition (The Island of the
Color Blind).  In addition to being unable to see color, these individuals
have extremely poor visual acuity (as you would expect for some one with no
foveal vision).   They also have great difficulty functioning under ambient
light that is stronger than twilight because the rods are bleached under
high illumination conditions.

>
>3. What would cause poor depth perception? Is there a particular brain
>region or visual pathway that, if damaged, results in the inability to
>perceive depth?

Some depth perception is mediated by monocular cues.  Other aspects of
depth perception are mediated by binocular cells (cells in visual cortex
that receive input from both eyes).  These are the cells that are
stimulated by the Magic Eye posters (remember those?).  Animals who are
deprived of binocular vision no longer have effective use of these
binocular cells (they eventually come to be devoted to one eye or the other
during a period of plasticity).  (Barlow did some of this work.  Sorry, I
don't have the reference handy.)  This can also happen with a person with
uncorrected strabismus.  They can still resolve monocular depth cues, but
are not as accurate as individuals with an intact binocular cell organization.
 
Claudia Stanny




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Re: Vision Questions

2001-03-06 Thread Deborah Briihl

Going for 2 and 3



>2. Are there folks who are color-blind as a result of having no cones at
>all? This seems unlikely to me (isn't the fovea all cones?), but I wasn't
>sure.

Color blindness (no color vision at all) can results from either missing 
all cones or missing 2 of the 3 types. If an individual is missing all 
cones, it does lead to visual problems other than color blindness - they 
tend to have problems with bright light (since rods work better in dim 
light). Complete color blindness can also occur with damage to V4 in the brain.



>3. What would cause poor depth perception? Is there a particular brain
>region or visual pathway that, if damaged, results in the inability to
>perceive depth?

Poor depth perception - such as problems with binocular disparity? Ah, that 
I know (through experience!). The visual system needs appropriate 
environmental stimuli as it is developing, otherwise, no binocular 
disparity. If someone has a lazy eye or one eye is a lot stronger than 
other, this may only partially develop or not develop at all! An individual 
with one eye would not have binocular disparity. However, you learn 
monocular cues that can be used for depth perception.


>Thanks in advance,
>Larry
>
>
>Larry Z. Daily
>Assistant Professor of Psychology
>Department of Psychology
>White Hall, Room 213
>Shepherd College
>Shepherdstown, West Virginia 25443
>
>phone: (304) 876-5297
>email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>WWW: http://webpages.shepherd.edu/LDAILY/index.html

Deb

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Vision Questions

2001-03-06 Thread Larry Z. Daily

Hello all,

My intro students were playing "stump the instructor" yesterday and came up
with a number of questions that I had no ready answers for. Can anyone help?

1. Do blind people "see" anything? My thought was that someone blind from
birth would have no visual experience at all, or they wouldn't be able to
report it, not having the experience of "normal" vision to compare to. On
the other hand, someone blinded as a result of disease or injury after
growing up sighted - what do they experience? Is it a uniform black (or gray
or some other color) field? Is it like having your eyes closed in a dark
room?

2. Are there folks who are color-blind as a result of having no cones at
all? This seems unlikely to me (isn't the fovea all cones?), but I wasn't
sure.

3. What would cause poor depth perception? Is there a particular brain
region or visual pathway that, if damaged, results in the inability to
perceive depth?

Thanks in advance,
Larry


Larry Z. Daily
Assistant Professor of Psychology
Department of Psychology
White Hall, Room 213
Shepherd College
Shepherdstown, West Virginia 25443

phone: (304) 876-5297
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
WWW: http://webpages.shepherd.edu/LDAILY/index.html





Re: Vision questions

2000-07-24 Thread Doug Wallen

At 6:38 AM -0500 7/23/00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>Listpersons,
>
>Hoping to get some clarification for a student with questions on vision:
>
>Vitamin A is good for the visual system, right? Does anyone know how this
>works? What about all the parental jabbering about not sitting too close to
>the TV, or watching TV or reading in low levels of light? Is there any truth
>to the threat about "ruining your eyes" in these ways?
>
>Thanks for your patience and help.
>
>Nancy Melucci
>Huntington Beach, CA

Francis Young from Washington State University conducted an extensive
research program in the 60's, involving correlational studies, naturalistic
experiments, and lab experiments on induced myopia. This is probably some
of the work that Stephen is referring to. He argued (as I recall) that
large amounts of close work, e.g. reading, caused a "spasm of
accommodation" in the muscles controlling the lens. If this spasm continued
long enough, the eyeball elongated to compensate. I haven't heard much
about this topic lately, so I don't know if his ideas are still supported.

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Re: Vision questions

2000-07-23 Thread Stephen Black

On Sun, 23 Jul 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Listpersons,
> 
> Hoping to get some clarification for a student with questions on vision:
> 
> Vitamin A is good for the visual system, right? Does anyone know how this 
> works? 

Right. The photopigment in the rods, rhodopsin, consists of
retinal bound to opsin. Retinal is synthesized from vitamin A.
When the retinal absorbs a photon of light, it changes its
conformation, and initiates a process that leads to electrical
activity in the receptor, and ultimately to vision. No vitamin A,
no retinal, no vision. 


What about all the parental jabbering about not sitting too close to 
> the TV, or watching TV or reading in low levels of light? Is there any truth 
> to the threat about "ruining your eyes" in these ways?
> 

Not as far as I know. "Eyestrain" is a myth. There was a recent
report that children who sleep with a nightlight are more likely
to be myopic (near-sighted), with the suggestion that this was
causal, but the finding doesn't seem to have held up. But there
is better evidence (including experimental animal work) that
reading may cause eyeball elongation, and therefore myopia.
There's a nice correlation between IQ and myopia, supporting the
idea of the bookwormish, high-IQ nerd with glasses. That, at
least, doesn't seem to be a myth. I never wore glasses, myself,
for most of my life. Draw your own conclusion. 

Writing from home, from memory, with no references handy to
append. Just believe.

-Stephen


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Vision questions

2000-07-23 Thread Drnanjo

Listpersons,

Hoping to get some clarification for a student with questions on vision:

Vitamin A is good for the visual system, right? Does anyone know how this 
works? What about all the parental jabbering about not sitting too close to 
the TV, or watching TV or reading in low levels of light? Is there any truth 
to the threat about "ruining your eyes" in these ways?

Thanks for your patience and help.

Nancy Melucci
Huntington Beach, CA