[tips] Is Social Psychology

2011-01-27 Thread michael sylvester
more sociology than psychology?
It has been my impression that social psychologists
do not seem to be olaced high on the rigid experimental pedestool as 
experimental psychologists.It is even more baffling to decide where to place 
educational psychologists,
Send me something.

Michael omnicentric Sylvester,PhD
Daytona Beach,Florida
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RE: [tips] Is Social Psychology

2011-01-27 Thread Marc Carter
Good grief, Michael.  I'd recommend reading some social psych -- the research 
I'm familiar with is as rigorous as any experimental psych.  It is NOT 
sociology.


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From: michael sylvester [mailto:msylves...@copper.net]
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more sociology than psychology?
It has been my impression that social psychologists
do not seem to be olaced high on the rigid experimental pedestool as 
experimental psychologists.It is even more baffling to decide where to place 
educational psychologists,
Send me something.

Michael omnicentric Sylvester,PhD
Daytona Beach,Florida


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[tips] How Much Value is Added at Elite Institutions - Response to Haim #2

2011-01-27 Thread Richard Hake
Some subscribers to TIPS and TeachEdPsych might be interested in a 
recent post How Much Value is Added at Elite Institutions - Response 
to Haim #2 [Hake (2011d)].


ABSTRACT: In my post How Much Value is Added at Elite Institutions? 
[Hake (2011c)], I wrote:

. . . . demonstrations that the less-than-stellar value-added 
assessments of Korsunsky's high school and Stuyvesant High School are 
inequitable would require meaningful value-added measures such as 
normalized average pre-to-posttest gains on valid and consistently 
reliable tests of higher-order learning. . .

Math-Teach's Haim responded: The problem is that you are not sure 
what you are measuring.

NONSENSE! In the case of Harvard, the higher-order learning consisted 
of conceptual understanding of Newtonian mechanics.

Haim continued First, parents and students seem to know something 
about Stuyvesant that educator assessments clearly fail to discern. . 
. . . Second . . .  very many of Stuyvesant's students graduate at a 
very high level (certainly by comparison to most other high school 
graduates) of academic achievement. . . . the real problem is 
transparent. It is the ceiling effect. . . .City-wide and state-wide 
assessments are simply not designed for academic institutions.

The above has nothing whatsoever to do with the theme of my post: It 
is conceivable that if there were 'Eric Mazurs' or 'John Belchers' at 
Korsunsky's high-school and the Stuyvesant High School, scenarios 
similar to that at Harvard and MIT might occur. . . . . [[i.e., 
realization that students were not learning much from traditional 
passive-student lecture methods followed by a switch to 
interactive-engagement pedagogy.]]. . . . , even though all those 
institutions are regarded as 'elite.' 


To access the complete 18 kB post please click on http://bit.ly/gxUOAb.

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Honorary Member, Curmudgeon Lodge of Deventer, The Netherlands
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   Invention of the Internet (PEDARRII)
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Above all things we must be aware of what I will call 'inert ideas'
- that is to say, ideas that are merely received into the mind
without being utilized, or tested, or thrown into fresh combinations.
 Alfred North Whitehead (1929, 1965) in The Aims of Education

REFERENCES [URL's shortened by http://bit.ly/ and accessed on 26 Jan 2011.]
Hake, R.R. 2011a. The Ceiling Effect #2 online on the OPEN! AERA-L 
archives at http://bit.ly/hUnHZe. Post of 12 Jan 2011 16:19:49-0800 
to AERA-L and Net-Gold.  The abstract and link to the complete post 
are being transmitted to various discussion lists are also online on 
my blog Hake'sEdStuff at  http://bit.ly/gLWr7W with a provision 
for comments.

Hake, R.R. 2011b. Value-Added Inequities: Should Value-Added 
Measures Be Used to Evaluate Teachers? online on the OPEN! AERA-L 
archives at http://bit.ly/fN1HmD. Post of 18 Jan 2011 
15:34:47-0800to AERA-L and Net-Gold.  The abstract and link to the 
complete post are being transmitted to various discussion lists are 
also online on my blog Hake'sEdStuff at  http://bit.ly/h23shQ 
with a provision for comments. See also Hake, R.R. 2011b.

Hake, R.R. 2011c. How Much Value is Added at Elite Institutions?  
online on the OPEN! AERA-L archives at http://bit.ly/g25OHd.  Post 
of 22 Jan 2011 14:50:14-0800 to AERA-L and Net-Gold.  The abstract 
and link to the complete post are being transmitted to various 
discussion lists are also online on my blog Hake'sEdStuff at 
http://bit.ly/gnLPjH with a provision for comments.

Hake, R.R. 2011d. How Much Value is Added at Elite Institutions - 
Response to Haim #2  online on the OPEN! AERA-L archives at 
http://bit.ly/gxUOAb.  Post of 26 Jan 2011 16:14:36-0800 to AERA-L 
and Net-Gold.  The abstract and link to the complete post are being 
transmitted to various discussion lists are also online on my blog 
Hake'sEdStuff at http://bit.ly/eyTZAj with a provision for 
comments. See also the relevant previous posts Hake (2011a,b,c)].

Whitehead, A. N. 1967. Aims of Education and other essays.  Free 
Press.  Amazon.com information at http://amzn.to/fIUbXB.  First 
published in 1929. Note the Look Inside feature.

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RE: [tips] Is Social Psychology

2011-01-27 Thread Dr. Bob Wildblood
Yet another reason to expel the one who will not be named.

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   Good grief, Michael.  I'd recommend reading some
   social psych -- the research I'm familiar with is as
   rigorous as any experimental psych.  It is NOT
   sociology.


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   Associate Professor and Chair
   Department of Psychology
   College of Arts  Sciences
   Baker University
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 From: michael sylvester
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 Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 8:14 AM
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 Subject: [tips] Is Social Psychology

  

 more sociology than psychology?
 It has been my impression that social
 psychologists
 do not seem to be olaced high on the rigid
 experimental pedestool as experimental
 psychologists.It is even more baffling to decide
 where to place educational psychologists,
 Send me something.
  
 Michael omnicentric Sylvester,PhD
 Daytona Beach,Florida

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[tips] Racial-mentoring in Pennsylvania

2011-01-27 Thread michael sylvester
A school district in Pa. has okayed a plan where black students can attend some 
sessions of tutoring taught by black mentors.I personally approve of the 
necessity to hold certain classes for black students taught by black teachers.
As a matter of fact,black students performed very well academically in the days 
of segregation.There is also noted evidence that girls fare better in all 
girls' scho0ols.

Michael omnicentric Sylvester,PhD
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