[tips] On The Poor-Rich Gap in Education
The NY Times has an article focusing on three females who attempt to go to college (most notably, Emory) but whose background emphasizes the continuing differences between rich and poor families, especially today as the rich get richer. See: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/23/education/poor-students-struggle-as-class-plays-a-greater-role-in-success.html?_r=0nl=todaysheadlinesadxnnl=1emc=edit_th_20121223pagewanted=alladxnnlx=1356274850-k/G1zhyfGER281QyDHuz4A Where are tomorrow's student likely to come from? -Mike Palij New York University m...@nyu.edu --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: arch...@jab.org. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df5d5n=Tl=tipso=22526 or send a blank email to leave-22526-13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df...@fsulist.frostburg.edu
Re:[tips] The irrelevance of IQ
In regard to Intelligence tests, Mike Williams concluded: All these tests must be redesigned to incorporate models of cognition that we should be proud to include in new clinical assessment procedures. What was the cognitive revolution all about, anyway? As someone who administers, scores, and interprets the intelligence tests that are available, I concur with Mike. --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: arch...@jab.org. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df5d5n=Tl=tipso=22528 or send a blank email to leave-22528-13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df...@fsulist.frostburg.edu
Re: [tips] More On The Irrelevance Of IQ
The Association of Black Psychologists,since its inception in the 60s, have long considered IQ to be irrelevant.The KKK and past U.S immigration policies have used the IQ concept to promote racism.In fact Italians were restricted in migration to the U.S. michael --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: arch...@jab.org. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df5d5n=Tl=tipso=22530 or send a blank email to leave-22530-13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df...@fsulist.frostburg.edu
Re: [tips] On The Poor-Rich Gap in Education
Hi The article and comments gave some representative case studies of challenges that disadvantaged students face, and they are considerable. This issue got quite a bit of media attention in Canada several years ago when a large scale survey came out on university attendance. One of the things I have often wondered about wealth-education connection, however, is what happens if you look at the data across several generations, rather than just one. How many of us, for example, came from modest backgrounds but are quite successful today? The statistics on our children would put them in the well-off category, but in such cases, that reflects the on-going benefit of our having made the leap through education. And as people like us are moved out of the disadvantaged group, does that produce the kind of reported growth in the gap between segments of society in university attainment? If each generation of remaining disadvantaged students is more challenged to succeed, of course, that makes the unbelievable amount of debt mentioned in the article even more disturbing (disgusting?). Take care Jim James M. Clark Professor Chair of Psychology j.cl...@uwinnipeg.ca Room 4L41A 204-786-9757 204-774-4134 Fax Dept of Psychology, U of Winnipeg 515 Portage Ave, Winnipeg, MB R3B 0R4 CANADA Mike Palij m...@nyu.edu 23-Dec-12 9:29 AM The NY Times has an article focusing on three females who attempt to go to college (most notably, Emory) but whose background emphasizes the continuing differences between rich and poor families, especially today as the rich get richer. See: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/23/education/poor-students-struggle-as-class-plays-a-greater-role-in-success.html?_r=0nl=todaysheadlinesadxnnl=1emc=edit_th_20121223pagewanted=alladxnnlx=1356274850-k/G1zhyfGER281QyDHuz4A Where are tomorrow's student likely to come from? -Mike Palij New York University m...@nyu.edu --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: j.cl...@uwinnipeg.ca. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13251.645f86b5cec4da0a56ffea7a891720c9n=Tl=tipso=22526 or send a blank email to leave-22526-13251.645f86b5cec4da0a56ffea7a89172...@fsulist.frostburg.edu --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: arch...@jab.org. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df5d5n=Tl=tipso=22534 or send a blank email to leave-22534-13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df...@fsulist.frostburg.eduattachment: Jim_Clark.vcf
Re: [tips] On The Poor-Rich Gap in Education
On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 15:12:54 -0800, Jim Clark wrote: Hi The article and comments gave some representative case studies of challenges that disadvantaged students face, and they are considerable. This issue got quite a bit of media attention in Canada several years ago when a large scale survey came out on university attendance. One of the things I have often wondered about wealth-education connection, however, is what happens if you look at the data across several generations, rather than just one. How many of us, for example, came from modest backgrounds but are quite successful today? Vivyan Adain of Hamilton College in a 2001 Harvard Educational Review article talks about her own experience in rising from poverty to the professoriate and how factors in the 1990s were going to cut off opportunities for others to take her path; see: http://www.history.ucsb.edu/projects/labor/documents/AdairHarvardEducationalReviewArticle.pdf Clearly her children will have advantages that she never had. The statistics on our children would put them in the well-off category, but in such cases, that reflects the on-going benefit of our having made the leap through education. And as people like us are moved out of the disadvantaged group, does that produce the kind of reported growth in the gap between segments of society in university attainment? If each generation of remaining disadvantaged students is more challenged to succeed, of course, that makes the unbelievable amount of debt mentioned in the article even more disturbing (disgusting?). I know that there is scholarship and research on these issues but this is outside of my field of expertise. However, it is important to keep in mind that in the last decade in the U.S. the rich have gotten richer and the poor have gotten poorer. And resources for the poor to get out of poverty through education, such as Pell grants and other financial aid programs, are either cut back or targeted for cuts. For example, consider what happened in Alabama; see: http://blog.al.com/spotnews/2012/12/nearly_5000_college_students_l.html For context, it might useful to read the following article that reviews about the last 100 years of education and its funding: see: Levine, A., Levine, M. (2012). Toward Universal Higher Education, Maybe. American Journal of Orthopsychiatry, 82(3), 437-446. http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10./j.1939-0025.2012.01173.x/abstract?deniedAccessCustomisedMessage=userIsAuthenticated=false An interesting side-effect of Pell grants is that the promise of obtaining one might have beneficial effects while students are still in grade school; see: http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/college_guide/blog/promising_pell_grants_early.php But maybe these will just be empty promises to poor children. -Mike Palij New York University m...@nyu.edu Mike Palij m...@nyu.edu 23-Dec-12 9:29 AM The NY Times has an article focusing on three females who attempt to go to college (most notably, Emory) but whose background emphasizes the continuing differences between rich and poor families, especially today as the rich get richer. See: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/23/education/poor-students-struggle-as-class-plays-a-greater-role-in-success.html?_r=0nl=todaysheadlinesadxnnl=1emc=edit_th_20121223pagewanted=alladxnnlx=1356274850-k/G1zhyfGER281QyDHuz4A Where are tomorrow's student likely to come from? --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: arch...@jab.org. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df5d5n=Tl=tipso=22536 or send a blank email to leave-22536-13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df...@fsulist.frostburg.edu
