re: [tips] Freud and cigars

2014-02-22 Thread Mike Palij

On Sat, 22 Feb 2014 18:59:42 -0800, michael sylvester  wrote:

But wouldn't he have asked for some good  cigars when he
lectured at Clark?


Possibly, but there is a problem with quality and preferences.
One might like to smoke or drink what one is familiar with and
something that is considered to be of outstanding quality
(e.g., Cuban cigars in the 20th century, French cognac as
a drink, etc.) might taste unpleasant simply because one is
unused to it.  The phrase "an acquired taste" is quite telling
because it referred to dedicated acquisition of preference for
something that was initially unpleasant.  In the U.S. we do
not legally have access to Cuban cigars currently but Canadians
do.  Which is better: the cigars grown and warped in Cuban
or the ex-pats from Cuban (i.e., Cuban who fled after
Castro and developed tobacco fields elsewhere)?  A
person with extensive experience with cigars (an "aficionado")
might be able to tell but one's preferences could still over
rule perceived quality (e.g., Hennessy is a passable cognac
but Remy Martin might be considered more desirable; both
are mass market products and one might not compare them
to small batch cognacs).  I leave to Canadian Tipsters (or
US Tipsters who smoke cigars while in Canada ;-) to pass
judgment.


Btw, were his therapy sessions smokeless? or puffless? If he
smoked while clients were=associating?


I'd bet that he puffed away.  Albert Ellis, who produced a large
number of books, would write on index cards during therapy
sessions, splitting his attention between what the "client" was
saying and he was writing for his next publication.

-Mike Palij
New York University
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Cc: "Michael Palij" 
Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2014 6:16 PM
Subject: re: [tips] Freud and cigars


On Sat, 22 Feb 2014 17:07:25 -0800, michael sylvester wrote:

Does anyone know what type of cigars Freud smoked?
Were they Cuban cigars? And I have a follow-up question.

On the Cigar Aficionado website there is an article on Freud's
cigar usage.  Quoting from that article:
at Clark?
|Obtaining good cigars, however, was no easy task. In
|turn-of-the-century Vienna, the Austrian government
|maintained strict control over the tobacco industry, and
|so Freud's cigar options were quite limited. According to
|The Diary of Sigmund Freud 1929-1939: A Record of
|the Final Decade, translated by Michael Molnar, Freud
|usually smoked a cigar called a trabucco, which was small,
|relatively mild and considered the best of those produced
|by the Austrian monopoly. But he complained that they
|were inferior, preferring the Don Pedros and Reina Cubanas,
|which he could get during his vacations in the picturesque
|Bavarian town of Berchtesgaden. Freud also enjoyed
|Dutch Liliputanos, and when old age limited his travel,
|he frequently recruited friends and colleagues to bring
|him his favorite cigars from across the border.
http://www.cigaraficionado.com/webfeatures/show/id/More-Than-a-Cigar_6051/p/2
(NOTE: one might want to examine a copy of "The Diary"
to verify the claims made above; the book is available in
snippet view on books.google.com but it does not seem
to contain the word "trabucco").

It is perhaps ironic that Freud was vacationed in
Berchtesgaden, the home of Nazi officials.  Viewers of the
HBO series "Band of Brothers" may remember that at
the army was in a hurry to beat others to get to the "Eagles
Nest" in Berchtesgaden because Hitler had a mountaintop
home there (Damian Lewis as Major Richard Winters
comments on the absurdity of a man with a fear of heights
living in such a high place). However, there is some debate
aboot who got there first; see:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kehlsteinhaus

And remember: sometimes a cigar is just a penis. 



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[tips] Freud and cigars

2014-02-22 Thread michael sylvester

But wouldn't he have asked for some good  cigars when he lectured at Clark?
Btw, were  his therapy sessions smokeless? or puffless? If he smoked while 
clients were=associating?
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Cc: "Michael Palij" 
Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2014 6:16 PM
Subject: re: [tips] Freud and cigars



On Sat, 22 Feb 2014 17:07:25 -0800, michael sylvester wrote:

Does anyone know what type of cigars Freud smoked?
Were they Cuban cigars? And I have a follow-up question.


On the Cigar Aficionado website there is an article on Freud's
cigar usage.  Quoting from that article:
 at Clark?
|Obtaining good cigars, however, was no easy task. In
|turn-of-the-century Vienna, the Austrian government
|maintained strict control over the tobacco industry, and
|so Freud's cigar options were quite limited. According to
|The Diary of Sigmund Freud 1929-1939: A Record of
|the Final Decade, translated by Michael Molnar, Freud
|usually smoked a cigar called a trabucco, which was small,
|relatively mild and considered the best of those produced
|by the Austrian monopoly. But he complained that they
|were inferior, preferring the Don Pedros and Reina Cubanas,
|which he could get during his vacations in the picturesque
|Bavarian town of Berchtesgaden. Freud also enjoyed
|Dutch Liliputanos, and when old age limited his travel,
|he frequently recruited friends and colleagues to bring
|him his favorite cigars from across the border.
http://www.cigaraficionado.com/webfeatures/show/id/More-Than-a-Cigar_6051/p/2
(NOTE: one might want to examine a copy of "The Diary"
to verify the claims made above; the book is available in
snippet view on books.google.com but it does not seem
to contain the word "trabucco").

It is perhaps ironic that Freud was vacationed in
Berchtesgaden, the home of Nazi officials.  Viewers of the
HBO series "Band of Brothers" may remember that at
the army was in a hurry to beat others to get to the "Eagles
Nest" in Berchtesgaden because Hitler had a mountaintop
home there (Damian Lewis as Major Richard Winters
comments on the absurdity of a man with a fear of heights
living in such a high place). However, there is some debate
aboot who got there first; see:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kehlsteinhaus

And remember: sometimes a cigar is just a penis.

-Mike Palij
New York University
m...@nyu.edu



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re: [tips] Freud and cigars

2014-02-22 Thread Mike Palij

On Sat, 22 Feb 2014 17:07:25 -0800, michael sylvester wrote:

Does anyone know what type of cigars Freud smoked?
Were they Cuban cigars? And I have a follow-up question.


On the Cigar Aficionado website there is an article on Freud's
cigar usage.  Quoting from that article:

|Obtaining good cigars, however, was no easy task. In
|turn-of-the-century Vienna, the Austrian government
|maintained strict control over the tobacco industry, and
|so Freud's cigar options were quite limited. According to
|The Diary of Sigmund Freud 1929-1939: A Record of
|the Final Decade, translated by Michael Molnar, Freud
|usually smoked a cigar called a trabucco, which was small,
|relatively mild and considered the best of those produced
|by the Austrian monopoly. But he complained that they
|were inferior, preferring the Don Pedros and Reina Cubanas,
|which he could get during his vacations in the picturesque
|Bavarian town of Berchtesgaden. Freud also enjoyed
|Dutch Liliputanos, and when old age limited his travel,
|he frequently recruited friends and colleagues to bring
|him his favorite cigars from across the border.
http://www.cigaraficionado.com/webfeatures/show/id/More-Than-a-Cigar_6051/p/2
(NOTE: one might want to examine a copy of "The Diary"
to verify the claims made above; the book is available in
snippet view on books.google.com but it does not seem
to contain the word "trabucco").

It is perhaps ironic that Freud was vacationed in
Berchtesgaden, the home of Nazi officials.  Viewers of the
HBO series "Band of Brothers" may remember that at
the army was in a hurry to beat others to get to the "Eagles
Nest" in Berchtesgaden because Hitler had a mountaintop
home there (Damian Lewis as Major Richard Winters
comments on the absurdity of a man with a fear of heights
living in such a high place). However, there is some debate
aboot who got there first; see:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kehlsteinhaus

And remember: sometimes a cigar is just a penis.

-Mike Palij
New York University
m...@nyu.edu



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[tips] Freud and cigars

2014-02-22 Thread michael sylvester
Does anyone know what type of cigars Freud smoked?
Were they Cuban cigars? And I have a follow-up question.
michael

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Re: [tips] Condolances

2014-02-22 Thread Christopher Green
Québec got most of Canada's Irish (Catholic) immigration because of its large 
French (Catholic) population. Still, I have known enough Québecers names things 
like Jean-Paul MacDonald to know that there was a strong Scots influence there 
too (note the thistle among the rose, shamrock, and fleur de lys on the 
Montréal flag).

Chris Green
York U
That other large but non-Montréal  Canadian city
-

> On Feb 22, 2014, at 12:05 PM, Paul Brandon  wrote:
> 
> That's what I was trying to say.
> Although some Quebecers might disagree.
> 
>> On Feb 22, 2014, at 10:11 AM, Christopher Green wrote:
>> 
>> You know that Canada is essentially a colony of Scotland, right?
>> 
>> Chris
>> -
>> Christopher D. Green
>> Department of Psychology
>> York University
>> Toronto, ON M6C 1G4
>> Canada
>> 
>> chri...@yorku.ca
>> 
>>> On Feb 22, 2014, at 10:27 AM, Paul Brandon  wrote:
>>> 
>>> There are some Scots enclaves around here where curling is a big thing.
>>> Probably where the  Canadians got it, eh?
>>> 
 On Feb 22, 2014, at 7:58 AM, Christopher Green wrote:
 
 
> On Feb 21, 2014, at 8:42 PM, "Lilienfeld, Scott O"  
> wrote:
> 
> And what's especially humiliating is that you Canadians also beat out us 
> Americans in curling, which isn't even a sport.
 
 Yeah, kind of like NASCAR, eh? :-)
 
 Chris
> 
> Paul Brandon
> Emeritus Professor of Psychology
> Minnesota State University, Mankato
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RE: [tips] Condolances

2014-02-22 Thread Lilienfeld, Scott O
Hey, y'all TIPSTERs from Canada and the Northern states need to understan' 
somethin.'

Those of us way down here in the south of the U.S. of A., especially in Georgia 
(which is technically pronounced "Jo-Ga"), have a strict operational definition 
for "sport" (apologies to Chris Green, whose writings on operational 
definitions I very much admire; but in this case, we make a venerable 
exception).  Sport, as all of us down here know, is a game where you can get 
banged up real bad.

Using that eminently reasonable definition, real sports include things like 
American ("genuine") football, rugby, ice-hockey, boxin', wrasslin', 
ski-jumpin," bobsleddin," skeleton (whatever the heck that is), pole-vaultin', 
and so on.  By that definition, NASCAR is most certainly a sport.  In contrast, 
wimpy games like "swimmin', ping pong (or as you intellectuals call it, "table 
tennis"), curlin', and most of all, ice dancin', definitely ain't no sports.  
Now, if they changed the rules of curlin' to allow the players to tackle each 
other or to throw that big stone thing at each other, that would make it a 
sport.

Don't get me wrong - I like y'all northern TIPSTERS plenty.  But you gonna have 
to spend some time with us down here in the South and get your definition of 
sports right.

..Scott


Scott O. Lilienfeld, Ph.D.
Professor
Department of Psychology, Room 473
Emory University
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his recreation, his love and his intellectual passions.  He hardly knows which 
is which.  He simply pursues his vision of excellence in whatever he does, 
leaving others to decide whether he is working or playing.  To him - he is 
always doing both.

- Zen Buddhist text
  (slightly modified)



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Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2014 8:58 AM
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Subject: Re: [tips] Condolances


> On Feb 21, 2014, at 8:42 PM, "Lilienfeld, Scott O"  wrote:
>
> And what's especially humiliating is that you Canadians also beat out us 
> Americans in curling, which isn't even a sport.

Yeah, kind of like NASCAR, eh? :-)

Chris
...
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Department of Psychology
York University
Toronto, ON M6C 1G4

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Re: [tips] Condolances

2014-02-22 Thread Paul C Bernhardt
I admire curling tremendously and wish I could watch more. While I was 
generally boycotting watching these Olympics, I was DVRing the curling and 
watching it. I attended curling events in 2002 in Salt Lake City, where I lived 
at the time. It is very much a sport, more cerebral, and time to consider 
options compared to other winter sports which are more 'twitch' oriented. One 
of the things I've found interesting in the most recent Olympics was how buff 
the athletes on the top male teams had become. They appear younger and 
stronger, no longer are the top players necessarily in their 40s or 50s. These 
buff boys in their 20s and early 30s can brush the ice with more intensity 
which can lengthen the slide of a stone substantially more than their older and 
less fit competitors. It is the future.

Paul

On Feb 22, 2014, at 11:40 AM, Dr. Bob Wildblood wrote:

> Just to express a different opinion, I believe that if one actually learned 
> about the sport of curling and the skill that it takes to make the nuanced 
> motions to guide that stone to score or block, they would understand how much 
> of a sport it is.  If you want to learn a bit about the things that go into 
> being a participant in the sport, go to 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glossary_of_curling for a glossary of terms.
> 
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Christopher Green 
> To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) 
> Sent: Sat, 22 Feb 2014 08:58:14 -0500 (EST)
> Subject: Re: [tips] Condolances
> 
> 
>> On Feb 21, 2014, at 8:42 PM, "Lilienfeld, Scott O"  wrote:
>> 
>> And what's especially humiliating is that you Canadians also beat out us 
>> Americans in curling, which isn't even a sport.
> 
> Yeah, kind of like NASCAR, eh? :-)
> 
> Chris
> ...
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> Department of Psychology
> York University
> Toronto, ON M6C 1G4
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Re: [tips] Condolances

2014-02-22 Thread Paul Brandon
That's what I was trying to say.
Although some Quebecers might disagree.

On Feb 22, 2014, at 10:11 AM, Christopher Green wrote:

> You know that Canada is essentially a colony of Scotland, right?
> 
> Chris
> -
> Christopher D. Green
> Department of Psychology
> York University
> Toronto, ON M6C 1G4
> Canada
> 
> chri...@yorku.ca
> 
>> On Feb 22, 2014, at 10:27 AM, Paul Brandon  wrote:
>> 
>> There are some Scots enclaves around here where curling is a big thing.
>> Probably where the  Canadians got it, eh?
>> 
>>> On Feb 22, 2014, at 7:58 AM, Christopher Green wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
 On Feb 21, 2014, at 8:42 PM, "Lilienfeld, Scott O"  
 wrote:
 
 And what's especially humiliating is that you Canadians also beat out us 
 Americans in curling, which isn't even a sport.
>>> 
>>> Yeah, kind of like NASCAR, eh? :-)
>>> 
>>> Chris

Paul Brandon
Emeritus Professor of Psychology
Minnesota State University, Mankato
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Re: [tips] Condolances

2014-02-22 Thread Dr. Bob Wildblood
Just to express a different opinion, I believe that if one actually learned 
about the sport of curling and the skill that it takes to make the nuanced 
motions to guide that stone to score or block, they would understand how much 
of a sport it is.  If you want to learn a bit about the things that go into 
being a participant in the sport, go to 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glossary_of_curling for a glossary of terms.



- Original Message -
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To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) 
Sent: Sat, 22 Feb 2014 08:58:14 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: [tips] Condolances


> On Feb 21, 2014, at 8:42 PM, "Lilienfeld, Scott O"  wrote:
> 
> And what's especially humiliating is that you Canadians also beat out us 
> Americans in curling, which isn't even a sport.

Yeah, kind of like NASCAR, eh? :-)

Chris
...
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Department of Psychology
York University
Toronto, ON M6C 1G4

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Re: [tips] Condolances

2014-02-22 Thread Christopher Green
You know that Canada is essentially a colony of Scotland, right?

Chris
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Canada

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> On Feb 22, 2014, at 10:27 AM, Paul Brandon  wrote:
> 
> There are some Scots enclaves around here where curling is a big thing.
> Probably where the  Canadians got it, eh?
> 
>> On Feb 22, 2014, at 7:58 AM, Christopher Green wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> On Feb 21, 2014, at 8:42 PM, "Lilienfeld, Scott O"  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> And what's especially humiliating is that you Canadians also beat out us 
>>> Americans in curling, which isn't even a sport.
>> 
>> Yeah, kind of like NASCAR, eh? :-)
>> 
>> Chris
> 
> Paul Brandon
> Emeritus Professor of Psychology
> Minnesota State University, Mankato
> pkbra...@hickorytech.net
> 
> 
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Re: [tips] Condolances

2014-02-22 Thread Paul Brandon
There are some Scots enclaves around here where curling is a big thing.
Probably where the  Canadians got it, eh?

On Feb 22, 2014, at 7:58 AM, Christopher Green wrote:

> 
>> On Feb 21, 2014, at 8:42 PM, "Lilienfeld, Scott O"  wrote:
>> 
>> And what's especially humiliating is that you Canadians also beat out us 
>> Americans in curling, which isn't even a sport.
> 
> Yeah, kind of like NASCAR, eh? :-)
> 
> Chris

Paul Brandon
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Re: [tips] Condolances

2014-02-22 Thread Christopher Green

> On Feb 21, 2014, at 8:42 PM, "Lilienfeld, Scott O"  wrote:
> 
> And what's especially humiliating is that you Canadians also beat out us 
> Americans in curling, which isn't even a sport.

Yeah, kind of like NASCAR, eh? :-)

Chris
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Christopher D Green
Department of Psychology
York University
Toronto, ON M6C 1G4

chri...@yorku.ca
http://www.yorku.ca/christo

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