[tips] Dissociative Identity Q
Discussing mpd or dissociative identity disorder recently...clinicians on TIPS probably encounter many pop ideas or urban legends about this diagnosis. The question that arose is whether you can give a sleeping pill to such a person and have it not affect one personality; presumably the one not given the pill. Does anyone know of evidence/study regarding this question? My first impulse is to check snopes and explore sources. Perhaps it came from clinical anecdotes? G.L. (Gary) Peterson,Ph.D Psychology@SVSU --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: arch...@jab.org. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df5d5n=Tl=tipso=17969 or send a blank email to leave-17969-13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df...@fsulist.frostburg.edu
Re: [tips] Dissociative Identity Q
Gerald: I would speculate that a person claiming dissociative identities may respond to a placebo differentially under various personalities, e.g., a placebo sedative administered to one personality may not have an effect on another personality. But an active drug such as a sleeping pill would surely have the same physiological effect on the person, independent of which personality was being enacted. One personality may try to fight the effects more than another, in order to portray role-consistent behavior. This would make an excellent empirical study. See the work of Martin Orne and Nick Spanos regarding the hidden observer in hypnotic responding. Disclaimer: I am far from an expert in this field, although I studied with Nick Spanos, a DID (at the time MPD) sceptic. -Max Gwynn Max Gwynn, Ph.D. Assistant Professor and Undergraduate Academic Advisor Dept. of Psychology Wilfrid Laurier University (519) 884-0710 ext 3854 mgw...@wlu.ca Gerald Peterson peter...@svsu.edu 5/22/2012 11:13 AM Discussing mpd or dissociative identity disorder recently...clinicians on TIPS probably encounter many pop ideas or urban legends about this diagnosis. The question that arose is whether you can give a sleeping pill to such a person and have it not affect one personality; presumably the one not given the pill. Does anyone know of evidence/study regarding this question? My first impulse is to check snopes and explore sources. Perhaps it came from clinical anecdotes? G.L. (Gary) Peterson,Ph.D Psychology@SVSU --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: mgw...@wlu.ca. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13403.a6ed9258d53b17bac9cfd263432af8fan=Tl=tipso=17969 or send a blank email to leave-17969-13403.a6ed9258d53b17bac9cfd263432af...@fsulist.frostburg.edu --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: arch...@jab.org. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df5d5n=Tl=tipso=17971 or send a blank email to leave-17971-13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df...@fsulist.frostburg.edu
Re: [tips] Dissociative Identity Q
On 22 May 2012 at 12:05, Maxwell Gwynn wrote, in response to Gerald Peterson: ...an active drug such as a sleeping pill would surely have the same physiological effect on the person, independent of which personality was being enacted snip This would make an excellent empirical study. I agree with both points. Multiple personalities are unquestionably a phenomenon of social construction or role-playing and have no real physiological basis. So whether you have one or a thousand multiple personalities, or alters of Satan and God, of dogs, cats, lobsters, and stuffed animals - even of people thousands of years old or from another dimension (1), a sleeping pill is gonna zap 'em every one at one go. Still, if someone did give such a person a sleeping pill and God went to sleep while Satan stayed awake, we'd have to revise that assertion, wouldn't we? Which leads me to segue to a topic I was planning to post about anyway: words of wisdom from the late, great physicist Richard Feynman, If it disagrees with experiment, it's wrong. See him explain the essence of science in 63 seconds in his own imimitable way, here: http://snipurl.com/23mltse Feynman: gone, but not forgotten. Stephen 1. Piper, A. (1998). Multiple Personality Disorder: Witchcraft Survives in the Twentieth Century. http://snipurl.com/23mm6h2 Stephen L. Black, Ph.D. Professor of Psychology, Emeritus Bishop's University Sherbrooke, Quebec, Canada e-mail: sblack at ubishops.ca - --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: arch...@jab.org. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df5d5n=Tl=tipso=17972 or send a blank email to leave-17972-13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df...@fsulist.frostburg.edu
Re: [tips] Dissociative Identity Q
Thanks Max and Stephen! Yes, I doubt the multiples would be able to respond differentially to an actual, strong sleeping pill. I didn't find this idea mentioned on snopes, but after asking my friend again, I think it came from the TV show Matlock. Andy Griffith plays a lawyer (Matlock) who discovers someone whose alter commits murder. Matlock tells the jury that he has learned there is evidence (studies) showing that the person could be affected by the sleeping pill while the alter is not. So...clearly no actual evidence for such an idea. G.L. (Gary) Peterson,Ph.D Psychology@SVSU On May 22, 2012, at 2:54 PM, sbl...@ubishops.ca wrote: On 22 May 2012 at 12:05, Maxwell Gwynn wrote, in response to Gerald Peterson: ...an active drug such as a sleeping pill would surely have the same physiological effect on the person, independent of which personality was being enacted snip This would make an excellent empirical study. I agree with both points. Multiple personalities are unquestionably a phenomenon of social construction or role-playing and have no real physiological basis. So whether you have one or a thousand multiple personalities, or alters of Satan and God, of dogs, cats, lobsters, and stuffed animals - even of people thousands of years old or from another dimension (1), a sleeping pill is gonna zap 'em every one at one go. Still, if someone did give such a person a sleeping pill and God went to sleep while Satan stayed awake, we'd have to revise that assertion, wouldn't we? Which leads me to segue to a topic I was planning to post about anyway: words of wisdom from the late, great physicist Richard Feynman, If it disagrees with experiment, it's wrong. See him explain the essence of science in 63 seconds in his own imimitable way, here: http://snipurl.com/23mltse Feynman: gone, but not forgotten. Stephen 1. Piper, A. (1998). Multiple Personality Disorder: Witchcraft Survives in the Twentieth Century. http://snipurl.com/23mm6h2 Stephen L. Black, Ph.D. Professor of Psychology, Emeritus Bishop's University Sherbrooke, Quebec, Canada e-mail: sblack at ubishops.ca - --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: peter...@svsu.edu. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13445.e3edca0f6e68bfb76eaf26a8eb6dd94bn=Tl=tipso=17972 or send a blank email to leave-17972-13445.e3edca0f6e68bfb76eaf26a8eb6dd...@fsulist.frostburg.edu --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: arch...@jab.org. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df5d5n=Tl=tipso=17973 or send a blank email to leave-17973-13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df...@fsulist.frostburg.edu
