Re: [tips] Question on sleep
Ed Pollak asked: > > > I distinctly remember reading that there are some (very few) > > people for whom it is normal to get an hour or less sleep per > > night. > > > Can anyone out there helpwith a reference? It's driving me > > nuts. Feeling sorry for someone being driven into nuts, I responded with this unabstracted article: > Meddis R, Pearson AJ, Langford G.An extreme case of healthy insomnia. > Electroencephalogr Clin > Neurophysiol. 1973 Aug;35(2):213-4 I've now located my personal copy, with a handwritten note from Ray Meddis offering best wishes and apologizing for the delay in sending the reprint to me (truly a collector's item!). The individual in question was a 70-year-old woman, a retired nurse, who claimed to sleep for only one hr per night, without napping. She filled the time saved by not sleeping with writing and painting. A self-recorded sleep log for two weeks apparently requested by Meddis showed that she slept on average for 49 minutes per night. Meddis then observed her under laboratory conditions, with EEG, over five nights, and reported a range of sleep from 0 to 3 1/2 hrs on each, averaging 67 minutes per night. That seems pretty good documentation to me. The paper references an earlier report: Jones, H. and Oswald, I. (1968). Two cases of healthy insomnia. EEG Clin. Neurophysiol. 24, 378-380. Stephen Stephen L. Black, Ph.D. Professor of Psychology, Emeritus Bishop's University Sherbrooke, Quebec, Canada e-mail: sblack at ubishops.ca - --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: arch...@jab.org. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df5d5&n=T&l=tips&o=6558 or send a blank email to leave-6558-13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df...@fsulist.frostburg.edu
RE:[tips] Question on sleep
This right before my 8:00 class . . . I believe Dement mentions a case or two in his book The Promise of Sleep. I think he says that none of these people have been willing to come to a sleep lab to have their claims verified and studied. Joe Joseph J. Horton, Ph. D. Box 3077 Grove City College Grove City, PA 16127 724-458-2004 jjhor...@gcc.edu<mailto:jjhor...@gcc.edu> In God we trust, all others must bring data. From: Pollak, Edward [mailto:epol...@wcupa.edu] Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 1:10 AM To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) Subject: [tips] Question on sleep I distinctly remember reading that there are some (very few) people for whom it is normal to get an hour or less sleep per night. I remember one case cited in which the subjected needed only 15 minutes and reported resenting having that "little slice of death" intrude on his day. A colleague I asked also remembers reading that some rare people do quite well with less than 1 hour/night. I've tried a Goggle search and a Google scholar search with no success. The reports I remember may be too old for those data bases or perhaps it was in a secondary source text. My searches for "minimum sleep," "hyposomnia," "asomnia" and many other things bring up lots of studies on apnea, sleep deprivation studies, bipolar disorder, etc., but nothing that speaks to the point. Can anyone out there help with a reference? It's driving me nuts. Ed Edward I. Pollak, Ph.D. Department of Psychology West Chester University of Pennsylvania http://home.comcast.net/~epollak/home.htm Office Hours: Mondays 12-2 & 3-4 p.m.; Tuesdays & Thursdays 8-9 a.m. & 12:30-2 p.m. Husband, father, grandfather, biopsychologist, & bluegrass fiddler.. in approximate order of importance. --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: jjhor...@gcc.edu<mailto:jjhor...@gcc.edu>. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13276.cca437dfff11995edc035566eabec9a7&n=T&l=tips&o=6549 (It may be necessary to cut and paste the above URL if the line is broken) or send a blank email to leave-6549-13276.cca437dfff11995edc035566eabec...@fsulist.frostburg.edu<mailto:leave-6549-13276.cca437dfff11995edc035566eabec...@fsulist.frostburg.edu> --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: arch...@jab.org. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df5d5&n=T&l=tips&o=6553 or send a blank email to leave-6553-13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df...@fsulist.frostburg.edu
Re: [tips] Question on sleep
On 17 Nov 2010 at 1:10, Pollak, Edward wrote: > I distinctly remember reading that there are some (very few) > people for whom it is normal to get an hour or less sleep per > night. > Can anyone out there helpwith a reference? It's driving me > nuts. Driving while nuts is a serious offense. I hope this helps. Meddis R, Pearson AJ, Langford G.An extreme case of healthy insomnia. Electroencephalogr Clin Neurophysiol. 1973 Aug;35(2):213-4 I recall this is the case of an elderly woman who only slept a few hours a night, (not an hour or less) and managed just fine with it. Unfortunately, there's no abstract available from PubMed, and since I dragged all my files home and they're now piled in boxes on the floor, I can't find the copy I'm sure I have somewhere. I might try to dig it up tomorrow, but most university libraries should have a copy of this old journal (good luck on getting it on-line). On the other hand, there is a dreadful disorder known as fatal familial insomnia, thought to be a prion (like mad cow) disease, in which the sufferer stays awake until he dies (hence the fatal part), but I doubt this is what Ed is looking for. Stephen Stephen L. Black, Ph.D. Professor of Psychology, Emeritus Bishop's University Sherbrooke, Quebec, Canada e-mail: sblack at ubishops.ca - --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: arch...@jab.org. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df5d5&n=T&l=tips&o=6550 or send a blank email to leave-6550-13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df...@fsulist.frostburg.edu
[tips] Question on sleep
I distinctly remember reading that there are some (very few) people for whom it is normal to get an hour or less sleep per night. I remember one case cited in which the subjected needed only 15 minutes and reported resenting having that "little slice of death" intrude on his day. A colleague I asked also remembers reading that some rare people do quite well with less than 1 hour/night. I've tried a Goggle search and a Google scholar search with no success. The reports I remember may be too old for those data bases or perhaps it was in a secondary source text. My searches for "minimum sleep," "hyposomnia," "asomnia" and many other things bring up lots of studies on apnea, sleep deprivation studies, bipolar disorder, etc., but nothing that speaks to the point. Can anyone out there help with a reference? It's driving me nuts. Ed Edward I. Pollak, Ph.D. Department of Psychology West Chester University of Pennsylvania http://home.comcast.net/~epollak/home.htm Office Hours: Mondays 12-2 & 3-4 p.m.; Tuesdays & Thursdays 8-9 a.m. & 12:30-2 p.m. Husband, father, grandfather, biopsychologist, & bluegrass fiddler.. in approximate order of importance. --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: arch...@jab.org. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df5d5&n=T&l=tips&o=6549 or send a blank email to leave-6549-13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df...@fsulist.frostburg.edu
