[tips] Where have all the tipsters gone?
I have wondered over the years where all the tipsters have gone off to. If I had to guess, I would guess that most of us who have lasted are folks who are older, who remember the days when tips was the only show in town and we all attended, religiously. Perhaps a bit of nostalgia and perhaps a bit of tolerance for posts that annoy us. For example, there is one blogger type whose posts I find very informative and another whose posts lead me to hit the delete key immediately. But I welcome having the ability to make the decision, as neither is allowed to post on some other lists because otherwise I would not have learned and grown from the one I whose posts resonate with me. My first teaching list was a research methods list started by Earl Babbie, I believe, and which has since disappeared. TIPS was the second and I believe I have been a tipster since the beginning, although I don't know if it's checkable or that it matters much. It was just so wonderful to make this group of friends. And there are tipsters that I wonder if they are still OK because I know they are older and they stop posting for long periods of time, and I have never seen a posting from them on another teaching list. (Anyone heard from Allen E. lately?) We never meet these people, but when they pass away there is a small empty space left in cyber space. I just wonder if the younger folks prefer the oversight of other lists, and if so, why. For me, that would be a fascinating study. Also, whether it is an age-related difference, both in terms of age chronologically and professionally. We sometimes get into minor cat fights on this list and it might be something that busy people, unless it's a topic they feel strongly about, might not appreciate. I appreciate the underlying search for information, the logic of the arguments, and sometimes even the content. But I am getting ready to retire so I might see these qualities in a different light than someone who needs the widest net for an immediate small problem: i.e., which textbook should I use for blah blah class? That said, I wonder if younger/newer/busier folks actually like the restriction of having a monitored list? Personally, I dislike it and although I am also on that other psych teaching list, I don't reply as often, or post as many queries because of the extra step to oversee my postings. I just dislike it. Again, I do wonder how much of that is age-related. However, the down side of a small list is that sometimes I get no responses at all on this list. Anyway, psychology related, and perhaps teaching related in terms of engagement issues: what makes one list more popular than another? What can we learn from how the lists have developed relative to how we teach? Where have all the tipsters gone? Annette Annette Kujawski Taylor, Ph. D. Professor, Psychological Sciences University of San Diego 5998 Alcala Park San Diego, CA 92110 tay...@sandiego.edu From: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) digest [tips@fsulist.frostburg.edu] Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2012 8:00 PM To: tips digest recipients Subject: tips digest: November 11, 2012 Subject: Re: A recommendation for unique TIPS posters From: Jeffry Ricker, Ph.D. jeff.ric...@scottsdalecc.edu Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 11:25:36 -0700 On Nov 11, 2012, at 8:29 AM, Paul C Bernhardt wrote: If your goal is to influence, if your goal is to hear from like minded or different minded persons, if your goal is to start conversations, blogging and micro-blogging are both better suited than an old-school email list that has only a few dozen members. I agree. On the other hand, long-time members have an affection for this place that is difficult to resist; and old-timers who post their blog-like pieces here may not want feedback from anyone but the 'cyber-friends' they have developed on this list. TIPS is a very unique place and it's hard to believe that it's still going strong--not like the old days, where there might be 90+ messages each day (perhaps it only seemed to be that many messages), but still quite active. Blogging can be fun, though; and for me, it's another way to keep learning about this extremely diverse discipline of ours. By the end of this academic year, I will have left all the quasi-administrative and related positions I've had for the past 10+ years and will return to teaching full-time. Thus, just this past week, I started a blog with two goals in mind: to answer students' questions in more depth and to teach psychology to a wider audience. But the most important goal, I think, is to help me learn (and re-learn) more about psychology, which for too long has been something that seemed like a luxury I couldn't afford because of all the time needed to do the work I was getting paid for. I hope to start contributing to TIPS more regularly, too, just like the old days :-) Best, Jeff --
RE:[tips] Where have all the tipsters gone?
Annette, I rarely post to this list and sometime feel a bit guilty about stealing all the great ideas and not contributing anything in return. I don't mind the monitored list restriction and I am also on the other list. I started teaching AP Psychology in High School in 1992. Sometime shortly after that I was introduced to TIPS and it has been a tremendous resource ever since. In my opinion, this resource is just another teaching tool that has many uses for many different people. I personally consider it invaluable. James Kevin Denson First Colonial High School AP Psychology Psychology Teacher Boys Varsity Soccer Coach I Need a Lighthouse Club Sponsor @FCHSAPPSYCH The human spirit is more powerful than any drug Oliver Sacks -Original Message- From: Annette Taylor [mailto:tay...@sandiego.edu] Sent: Monday, November 12, 2012 9:20 AM To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) Subject: [tips] Where have all the tipsters gone? I have wondered over the years where all the tipsters have gone off to. If I had to guess, I would guess that most of us who have lasted are folks who are older, who remember the days when tips was the only show in town and we all attended, religiously. Perhaps a bit of nostalgia and perhaps a bit of tolerance for posts that annoy us. For example, there is one blogger type whose posts I find very informative and another whose posts lead me to hit the delete key immediately. But I welcome having the ability to make the decision, as neither is allowed to post on some other lists because otherwise I would not have learned and grown from the one I whose posts resonate with me. My first teaching list was a research methods list started by Earl Babbie, I believe, and which has since disappeared. TIPS was the second and I believe I have been a tipster since the beginning, although I don't know if it's checkable or that it matters much. It was just so wonderful to make this group of friends. And there are tipsters that I wonder if they are still OK because I know they are older and they stop posting for long periods of time, and I have never seen a posting from them on another teaching list. (Anyone heard from Allen E. lately?) We never meet these people, but when they pass away there is a small empty space left in cyber space. I just wonder if the younger folks prefer the oversight of other lists, and if so, why. For me, that would be a fascinating study. Also, whether it is an age-related difference, both in terms of age chronologically and professionally. We sometimes get into minor cat fights on this list and it might be something that busy people, unless it's a topic they feel strongly about, might not appreciate. I appreciate the underlying search for information, the logic of the arguments, and sometimes even the content. But I am getting ready to retire so I might see these qualities in a different light than someone who needs the widest net for an immediate small problem: i.e., which textbook should I use for blah blah class? That said, I wonder if younger/newer/busier folks actually like the restriction of having a monitored list? Personally, I dislike it and although I am also on that other psych teaching list, I don't reply as often, or post as many queries because of the extra step to oversee my postings. I just dislike it. Again, I do wonder how much of that is age-related. However, the down side of a small list is that sometimes I get no responses at all on this list. Anyway, psychology related, and perhaps teaching related in terms of engagement issues: what makes one list more popular than another? What can we learn from how the lists have developed relative to how we teach? Where have all the tipsters gone? Annette Annette Kujawski Taylor, Ph. D. Professor, Psychological Sciences University of San Diego 5998 Alcala Park San Diego, CA 92110 tay...@sandiego.edu From: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) digest [tips@fsulist.frostburg.edu] Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2012 8:00 PM To: tips digest recipients Subject: tips digest: November 11, 2012 Subject: Re: A recommendation for unique TIPS posters From: Jeffry Ricker, Ph.D. jeff.ric...@scottsdalecc.edu Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 11:25:36 -0700 On Nov 11, 2012, at 8:29 AM, Paul C Bernhardt wrote: If your goal is to influence, if your goal is to hear from like minded or different minded persons, if your goal is to start conversations, blogging and micro-blogging are both better suited than an old-school email list that has only a few dozen members. I agree. On the other hand, long-time members have an affection for this place that is difficult to resist; and old-timers who post their blog-like pieces here may not want feedback from anyone but the 'cyber-friends' they have developed on this list. TIPS is a very unique place and it's hard to believe that it's still going strong--not like the old days
RE: [tips] Where have all the tipsters gone?
Hi Annette, I still look at all the posts, reply to some, delete others, ignore some Recently I asked about articles for abnormal psych...got one response, Send me the articles others mention. I still enjoy TIPS and feel it has helped me in many ways to be a good teacher. Yes, I also wonder about Stephen Black. I have always learned from his e-mails. He recently sent a post but it has been a long long time. JIm From: tay...@sandiego.edu To: tips@fsulist.frostburg.edu Subject: [tips] Where have all the tipsters gone? Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 14:20:02 + I have wondered over the years where all the tipsters have gone off to. If I had to guess, I would guess that most of us who have lasted are folks who are older, who remember the days when tips was the only show in town and we all attended, religiously. Perhaps a bit of nostalgia and perhaps a bit of tolerance for posts that annoy us. For example, there is one blogger type whose posts I find very informative and another whose posts lead me to hit the delete key immediately. But I welcome having the ability to make the decision, as neither is allowed to post on some other lists because otherwise I would not have learned and grown from the one I whose posts resonate with me. My first teaching list was a research methods list started by Earl Babbie, I believe, and which has since disappeared. TIPS was the second and I believe I have been a tipster since the beginning, although I don't know if it's checkable or that it matters much. It was just so wonderful to make this group of friends. And there are tipsters that I wonder if they are still OK because I know they are older and they stop posting for long periods of time, and I have never seen a posting from them on another teaching list. (Anyone heard from Allen E. lately?) We never meet these people, but when they pass away there is a small empty space left in cyber space. I just wonder if the younger folks prefer the oversight of other lists, and if so, why. For me, that would be a fascinating study. Also, whether it is an age-related difference, both in terms of age chronologically and professionally. We sometimes get into minor cat fights on this list and it might be something that busy people, unless it's a topic they feel strongly about, might not appreciate. I appreciate the underlying search for information, the logic of the arguments, and sometimes even the content. But I am getting ready to retire so I might see these qualities in a different light than someone who needs the widest net for an immediate small problem: i.e., which textbook should I use for blah blah class? That said, I wonder if younger/newer/busier folks actually like the restriction of having a monitored list? Personally, I dislike it and although I am also on that other psych teaching list, I don't reply as often, or post as many queries because of the extra step to oversee my postings. I just dislike it. Again, I do wonder how much of that is age-related. However, the down side of a small list is that sometimes I get no responses at all on this list. Anyway, psychology related, and perhaps teaching related in terms of engagement issues: what makes one list more popular than another? What can we learn from how the lists have developed relative to how we teach? Where have all the tipsters gone? Annette Annette Kujawski Taylor, Ph. D. Professor, Psychological Sciences University of San Diego 5998 Alcala Park San Diego, CA 92110 tay...@sandiego.edu From: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) digest [tips@fsulist.frostburg.edu] Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2012 8:00 PM To: tips digest recipients Subject: tips digest: November 11, 2012 Subject: Re: A recommendation for unique TIPS posters From: Jeffry Ricker, Ph.D. jeff.ric...@scottsdalecc.edu Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 11:25:36 -0700 On Nov 11, 2012, at 8:29 AM, Paul C Bernhardt wrote: If your goal is to influence, if your goal is to hear from like minded or different minded persons, if your goal is to start conversations, blogging and micro-blogging are both better suited than an old-school email list that has only a few dozen members. I agree. On the other hand, long-time members have an affection for this place that is difficult to resist; and old-timers who post their blog-like pieces here may not want feedback from anyone but the 'cyber-friends' they have developed on this list. TIPS is a very unique place and it's hard to believe that it's still going strong--not like the old days, where there might be 90+ messages each day (perhaps it only seemed to be that many messages), but still quite active. Blogging can be fun, though; and for me, it's another way to keep learning about this extremely diverse discipline of ours. By the end of this academic year, I will have left all
Re: [tips] Where have all the tipsters gone?
I suspect the list has gone quiet in recent weeks because many TIPsters are too busy dealing with tree surgeons, roofers, electricians and contractors and/or are busy reworking their courses to accommodate lost time. A big storm like Sandy recalibrates priorities. To those, I hope you can resume some semblance of normal life soon. Several long-time TIPsters have moved into roles as chairs and administrators at their institutions. The crush of email in these roles leaves little time for reading or responding to the many posts on TIPS. I believe Stephen Black retired a few years ago. The amusements of retirement can be equally distracting! :-) Like many, I miss Stephen's insights. (Same for several others who have gone quiet on TIPS.) As for the bloggers, they might be excluded from a certain other managed list (is this the List That Must Not Be Named?), but rest assured they are active on multiple lists. I receive 3 copies of every post they send to TIPs, although the other lists all have very different discussion purposes. Makes me speculate about the motivations for this posting behavior. That said, each poster has fans or is tolerated in silence on these lists. We all know how to cope with email that doesn't interest us. Claudia Stanny --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: arch...@jab.org. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df5d5n=Tl=tipso=21653 or send a blank email to leave-21653-13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df...@fsulist.frostburg.edu
RE: [tips] Where have all the tipsters gone?
From: Claudia Stanny [mailto:csta...@uwf.edu] Sent: Monday, November 12, 2012 10:25 AM To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) Subject: Re: [tips] Where have all the tipsters gone? [snip] Several long-time TIPsters have moved into roles as chairs and administrators at their institutions. The crush of email in these roles leaves little time for reading or responding to the many posts on TIPS. [snip] That would be me... -- Marc Carter, PhD Associate Professor of Psychology Chair, Department of Behavioral and Health Sciences College of Arts Sciences Baker University -- The information contained in this e-mail and any attachments thereto (e-mail) is sent by Baker University (BU) and is intended to be confidential and for the use of only the individual or entity named above. The information may be protected by federal and state privacy and disclosures acts or other legal rules. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are notified that retention, dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error please immediately notify Baker University by email reply and immediately and permanently delete this e-mail message and any attachments thereto. Thank you. --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: arch...@jab.org. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df5d5n=Tl=tipso=21654 or send a blank email to leave-21654-13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df...@fsulist.frostburg.edu
Re: [tips] Where have all the tipsters gone?
Some of us oldsters are still around. I still enjoy helping others but often do it off list now. If I still have questions or info to share I will post, and so I still find those that remain a valuable resource. I find that I have already posted on issues that recur and so will sit back and let others respond in most cases. Gerald L. (Gary) Peterson, Ph.D. Professor, Department of Psychology Saginaw Valley State University University Center, MI 48710 989-964-4491 peter...@svsu.edu - Original Message - From: Annette Taylor tay...@sandiego.edu To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) tips@fsulist.frostburg.edu Sent: Monday, November 12, 2012 9:20:02 AM Subject: [tips] Where have all the tipsters gone? I have wondered over the years where all the tipsters have gone off to. If I had to guess, I would guess that most of us who have lasted are folks who are older, who remember the days when tips was the only show in town and we all attended, religiously. Perhaps a bit of nostalgia and perhaps a bit of tolerance for posts that annoy us. For example, there is one blogger type whose posts I find very informative and another whose posts lead me to hit the delete key immediately. But I welcome having the ability to make the decision, as neither is allowed to post on some other lists because otherwise I would not have learned and grown from the one I whose posts resonate with me. My first teaching list was a research methods list started by Earl Babbie, I believe, and which has since disappeared. TIPS was the second and I believe I have been a tipster since the beginning, although I don't know if it's checkable or that it matters much. It was just so wonderful to make this group of friends. And there are tipsters that I wonder if they are still OK because I know they are older and they stop posting for long periods of time, and I have never seen a posting from them on another teaching list. (Anyone heard from Allen E. lately?) We never meet these people, but when they pass away there is a small empty space left in cyber space. I just wonder if the younger folks prefer the oversight of other lists, and if so, why. For me, that would be a fascinating study. Also, whether it is an age-related difference, both in terms of age chronologically and professionally. We sometimes get into minor cat fights on this list and it might be something that busy people, unless it's a topic they feel strongly about, might not appreciate. I appreciate the underlying search for information, the logic of the arguments, and sometimes even the content. But I am getting ready to retire so I might see these qualities in a different light than someone who needs the widest net for an immediate small problem: i.e., which textbook should I use for blah blah class? That said, I wonder if younger/newer/busier folks actually like the restriction of having a monitored list? Personally, I dislike it and although I am also on that other psych teaching list, I don't reply as often, or post as many queries because of the extra step to oversee my postings. I just dislike it. Again, I do wonder how much of that is age-related. However, the down side of a small list is that sometimes I get no responses at all on this list. Anyway, psychology related, and perhaps teaching related in terms of engagement issues: what makes one list more popular than another? What can we learn from how the lists have developed relative to how we teach? Where have all the tipsters gone? Annette Annette Kujawski Taylor, Ph. D. Professor, Psychological Sciences University of San Diego 5998 Alcala Park San Diego, CA 92110 tay...@sandiego.edu From: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) digest [tips@fsulist.frostburg.edu] Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2012 8:00 PM To: tips digest recipients Subject: tips digest: November 11, 2012 Subject: Re: A recommendation for unique TIPS posters From: Jeffry Ricker, Ph.D. jeff.ric...@scottsdalecc.edu Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 11:25:36 -0700 On Nov 11, 2012, at 8:29 AM, Paul C Bernhardt wrote: If your goal is to influence, if your goal is to hear from like minded or different minded persons, if your goal is to start conversations, blogging and micro-blogging are both better suited than an old-school email list that has only a few dozen members. I agree. On the other hand, long-time members have an affection for this place that is difficult to resist; and old-timers who post their blog-like pieces here may not want feedback from anyone but the 'cyber-friends' they have developed on this list. TIPS is a very unique place and it's hard to believe that it's still going strong--not like the old days, where there might be 90+ messages each day (perhaps it only seemed to be that many messages), but still quite active. Blogging can be fun, though; and for me, it's another way to keep learning about this extremely
Re: [tips] Where have all the tipsters gone?
On 11/12/2012 11:24 AM, Claudia Stanny wrote: Several long-time TIPsters have moved into roles as chairs and administrators at their institutions. The crush of email in these roles leaves little time for reading or responding to the many posts on TIPS. Administrative duties have greatly interfered with my being active on tips. Hurriedly, Ken Kenneth M. Steele, Ph. D.steel...@appstate.edu Professor and Assistant Chairperson Department of Psychology http://www.psych.appstate.edu Appalachian State University Boone, NC 28608 USA --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: arch...@jab.org. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df5d5n=Tl=tipso=21656 or send a blank email to leave-21656-13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df...@fsulist.frostburg.edu
Re: [tips] Where have all the tipsters gone?
On Nov 12, 2012, at 7:20 AM, Annette Taylor wrote: I have wondered over the years where all the tipsters have gone off to. Email listservs once were the only game in town; but now they are, for the most part, a relic of the past. There are many other ways for people with similar interests in interact (e.g., blogging, forums). I remember reading at least 5 years ago, perhaps more, that most email listservs had degenerated to being simply forums for the posting of announcements (job openings, conference dates, etc.) and related topics. My own listserv, which never had that many members (perhaps 150 about 10 years ago), now has 30 or so (I haven't looked recently) and gets litttle traffic, as you know. So, vive le TIPS! Best, Jeff -- - Jeffry Ricker, Ph.D. Professor of Psychology PSY 101 Website: http://sccpsy101.wordpress.com/ Knowing Ourselves: http://psysci.com/ - Scottsdale Community College 9000 E. Chaparral Road Scottsdale, AZ 85256-2626 Office: SB-123 Phone: (480) 423-6213 Fax: (480) 423-6298 --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: arch...@jab.org. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df5d5n=Tl=tipso=21657 or send a blank email to leave-21657-13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df...@fsulist.frostburg.edu
Re: [tips] Where have all the tipsters gone?
I thought Jeff's listserv had died, perhaps along with Jeff, until he reappeared on TIPs. I may still be a member because I don't remember signoffing (that will probably never become a verb now that listservs are a thing of the past), but many of us don't start things off, just adding in every once in a while. Bill Scott Jeffry Ricker, Ph.D. 11/12/12 12:30 PM On Nov 12, 2012, at 7:20 AM, Annette Taylor wrote: I have wondered over the years where all the tipsters have gone off to. Email listservs once were the only game in town; but now they are, for the most part, a relic of the past. There are many other ways for people with similar interests in interact (e.g., blogging, forums). I remember reading at least 5 years ago, perhaps more, that most email listservs had degenerated to being simply forums for the posting of announcements (job openings, conference dates, etc.) and related topics. My own listserv, which never had that many members (perhaps 150 about 10 years ago), now has 30 or so (I haven't looked recently) and gets litttle traffic, as you know. So, vive le TIPS! Best, Jeff -- - Jeffry Ricker, Ph.D. Professor of Psychology PSY 101 Website: http://sccpsy101.wordpress.com/ Knowing Ourselves: http://psysci.com/ - Scottsdale Community College 9000 E. Chaparral Road Scottsdale, AZ 85256-2626 Office: SB-123 Phone: (480) 423-6213 Fax: (480) 423-6298 --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: wsc...@wooster.edu. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13058.902daf6855267276c83a639cbb25165cn=Tl=tipso=21657 (It may be necessary to cut and paste the above URL if the line is broken) or send a blank email to leave-21657-13058.902daf6855267276c83a639cbb251...@fsulist.frostburg.edu --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: arch...@jab.org. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df5d5n=Tl=tipso=21659 or send a blank email to leave-21659-13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df...@fsulist.frostburg.edu
