Hi

Oops ... I just gave the adjustment instead of the newscore.  Should be

newscore = oldscore + .xx*(100-oldscore)

Thanks Max.  Good to know that someone reads these things closely!

Take care
Jim

From: Maxwell Gwynn [mailto:mgw...@wlu.ca]
Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2013 10:14 AM
To: Jim Clark
Subject: RE: [tips] PLOS ONE: Daily Online Testing in Large Classes: Boosting 
College Performance while Reducing Achievement Gaps

Jim:

Maybe I'm not interpreting it correctly, but that equation looks off. Would it 
not be the case that higher old scores (e.g., 90 versus 70) would be converted 
to lower new scores?

-Max

Max Gwynn, Ph.D.
Assistant Professor and Undergraduate Academic Advisor
Dept. of Psychology
Wilfrid Laurier University
Waterloo, ON Canada
(519) 884-0710 ext 3854
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>>> Jim Clark <j.cl...@uwinnipeg.ca<mailto:j.cl...@uwinnipeg.ca>> 22/11/2013 
>>> 3:13 PM >>>
Hi

Like Paul when students score too poorly on a test, I will scale scores like 
this: newscore = .xx*(100-oldscore), where .xx is some proportion to give the 
overall increment I've decided is appropriate.  My reasoning is overly 
challenging test will hurt poorer students more and, by definition, students 
who did well were not markedly affected by the level of the test.

Take care
Jim

Jim Clark
Professor & Chair of Psychology
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From: Paul C Bernhardt [mailto:pcbernha...@frostburg.edu]
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 12:36 PM
To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS)
Subject: Re: [tips] PLOS ONE: Daily Online Testing in Large Classes: Boosting 
College Performance while Reducing Achievement Gaps

There are a lot of interesting statements in this paper. I love this one:

"The purpose of the curve was to reduce the number of students who failed the 
first exams - a standard practice in American universities."

Standard practice? Common practice, certainly, but far from standard. And, 
methods of curving are even more varied (I have used in the past a proportional 
curving system that gave more points to students who scored very very poorly, 
and fewer to this who scored comparatively well).

Paul


On Nov 22, 2013, at 11:17 AM, Gerald Peterson wrote:

I am a fan of more frequent testing, but what do folks think about the authors' 
contortions and post hoc fishing to find that their daily quiz class was 
comparatively better?  If regular testing and retesting is effective, it ought 
to be easier to show greater comprehension and mastery of the material at the 
end of the term. If the daily quizzes are short with MC type questions, could 
students later show their learning on a full exam, with short answer and 
fill-in questions? I think varied daily testing and retesting would better 
promote transfer.




G.L. (Gary) Peterson,Ph.D
Psychology@SVSU


On Nov 21, 2013, at 9:12 PM, Christopher Green 
<chri...@yorku.ca<mailto:chri...@yorku.ca>> wrote:

As though you didn't have enough people telling you how to teach already. 
Still, interesting finding.

http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0079774?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+plosone%2FPLoSONE+%28PLOS+ONE+Alerts%3A+New+Articles%29

Chris
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