Re:[tips] Chelsea Madness - psychological angle?
People have been waiting around for hours to catch a glimpse of anyone famous. Did you ask any of them why they are doing so? What rationale did they provide? I have never understood this and am puzzled by such behavior. Like Mike Palij, I've always been puzzled why people wait around for hours to get a fleeting glimpse of someone famous passing by, whether it be a film star or Queen Elizabeth II (Elizabeth I of Scotland :-) ). Could one factor be the experience of being part of crowd engaging in a common purpose? The way I see reflected glory coming into it is that the spectator can regale friends and family with having been there and seen X in person. But I think it would be presumptuous to think that people who enjoy this necessarily have something lacking in their lives that we who don't engage in such activities do not lack. (We no doubt would enjoy telling friends we happened to meet/see a different kind of celebrity, e.g., a well-known author.) Allen Esterson Former lecturer, Science Department Southwark College, London allenester...@compuserve.com http://www.esterson.org - From: Mike Palij m...@nyu.edu Subject:re: Chelsea Madness - psychological angle? Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 09:33:36 -0400 On Sat, 31 Jul 2010 06:00:03 -0700, Michael Britt wrote: No doubt everyone has heard that Chelsea Clinton is getting married today in Rhinebeck, New York. Really? Last I heard it was a runor. Do you have some factual information that has not been released to the media? It is not unusual in cases of celebrity marriages (as well as mundane marriages), for a wedding announcement to be publicly made, typically in a local newspaper. Is there such a announcement in either local Rhinebeck or natianal papers or news sources? The NY Daily News has noted the local's unhappiness with not being in the loop; see: http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/2010/07/28/2010-07-28_chelseas_big_day_riles_local_yokels.html Makes one wonder why so many people would interested in what is essentially a private family event? Now that's something that requires a psychological explanation! Well, that's my hometown so it's pretty nutty around here with all the celebrity-spotting and no-fly zone stuff going on. People have been waiting around for hours to catch a glimpse of anyone famous. Did you ask any of them why they are doing so? What rationale did they provide? I have never understood this and am puzzled by such behavior. Then again, I'm a native New Yorker and we're programmed at an early age to develop such an attitude. ;-) Rumor had it that Oprah stopped by at a well known ice cream stop called the Holy Cow to get an ice cream. That piece of news was making the rounds. I was in the middle of the fray yesterday with my camera wondering if there is a psychological angle to all this. Well, one thing that it shows people's tendency to rely upon gossip and rumor as valid sources of information instead of relying on factual sources of information. Instead of deciding to believe in propositions that they have verified to some degree of certainty, they rely upon any information no matter how baseless. For example, how much will the Clinton Wedding cost? Is it: a) $US 1 million b) $US 3 million c) $US 5 million d) no one knows because, if it does occur, the actual costs won't be known until all expenses, expected and unexpected, have been tallied e) it's none of your damned business, it's a private family function! By the way, will you be tweeting the event? :-) -Mike Palij New York University m...@nyu.edu --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: arch...@jab.org. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df5d5n=Tl=tipso=3903 or send a blank email to leave-3903-13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df...@fsulist.frostburg.edu
Re: [tips] Chelsea Madness - psychological angle?
Ha, yes this isn't going to be the kind of stuff on PsychNews I hope ;-). Have fun! GPeterson Gary's iPad On Jul 31, 2010, at 10:02 AM, Christopher D. Green chri...@yorku.ca wrote: Is there an app for the Clinton wedding Mike? :-) Chris Green = Michael Britt wrote: No doubt everyone has heard that Chelsea Clinton is getting married today in Rhinebeck, New York. Well, that's my hometown so it's pretty nutty around here with all the celebrity-spotting and no-fly zone stuff going on. People have been waiting around for hours to catch a glimpse of anyone famous. Rumor had it that Oprah stopped by at a well known ice cream stop called the Holy Cow to get an ice cream. That piece of news was making the rounds. I was in the middle of the fray yesterday with my camera wondering if there is a psychological angle to all this. I only came up with these: 1) Sternberg's theory of love: I assume that Chelsea and her soon to be husband (what's-his-name) are in the Romantic Love stage. 2) Erikson: I also assume that she's in the Intimacy vs. Isolation stage. 3) Celebrity: the event is another example of our obsession with celebrities. Any psychological theory to tap into here? I'll probably make another stop by in town today so if you think of any questions I should ask people let me know. Not that I'm caught up in the whole thing Michael Michael Britt mich...@thepsychfiles.com http://www.ThePsychFiles.com Twitter: mbritt --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: chri...@yorku.ca. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13132.a868d710aa4ef67a68807ce4fe8bd0dan=Tl=tipso=3880 or send a blank email to leave-3880-13132.a868d710aa4ef67a68807ce4fe8bd...@fsulist.frostburg.edu --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: peter...@svsu.edu. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13445.e3edca0f6e68bfb76eaf26a8eb6dd94bn=Tl=tipso=3885 or send a blank email to leave-3885-13445.e3edca0f6e68bfb76eaf26a8eb6dd...@fsulist.frostburg.edu --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: arch...@jab.org. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df5d5n=Tl=tipso=3886 or send a blank email to leave-3886-13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df...@fsulist.frostburg.edu
RE: [tips] Chelsea Madness - psychological angle?
In reply to Beth especially, a friend gave me the Obama White House telephone
number on which anyone can leave a message for Mr. Obama (reportedly). I just
love having it; I wonder what degree of separation is that. I called once on
a Saturday and a lovely, rich voice advised that I call back during the week to
leave a message. What a great idea (the telephone message idea).
Aside from the degrees of separation, (I wonder if we want to keep), when folks
unrealistically criticize the current political structure to me, I say, Well,
do you want his phone number? You can leave a message for him! No one has
yet taken me up on it.
Joann Jelly, Ed.
Psychology Instructor
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From: Beth Benoit [mailto:beth.ben...@gmail.com]
Sent: Sat 7/31/2010 6:24 AM
To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS)
Subject: Re: [tips] Chelsea Madness - psychological angle?
I think it might be fun to make note of how many degrees of separation there
can be where BIRGing (basking in reflected glory) is going on. (Cialdini made
this concept popular, describing how people feel their self-identity is
enhanced by their association - sometimes at quite a distance - from a
celebrity, person of importance, etc.)
You might search for people's reports that they're involved in this event
somehow. (My husband's cousin's fiance is a waiter who might be serving at
the reception, [3+ degrees] I was just getting in my car when Hillary's
limousine drove by, {pretty distant 3 degrees] etc.) You'd probably also need
to include yourself, Michael, since you posted that Rhinebeck is your hometown,
and thus...well, you know the rest.
Enjoy the craziness!
Beth Benoit
Granite State College
Plymouth State University
New Hampshire
On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 8:59 AM, Michael Britt mich...@thepsychfiles.com
wrote:
No doubt everyone has heard that Chelsea Clinton is getting married today in
Rhinebeck, New York. Well, that's my hometown so it's pretty nutty around here
with all the celebrity-spotting and no-fly zone stuff going on. People have
been waiting around for hours to catch a glimpse of anyone famous. Rumor had
it that Oprah stopped by at a well known ice cream stop called the Holy Cow
to get an ice cream. That piece of news was making the rounds.
I was in the middle of the fray yesterday with my camera wondering if there is
a psychological angle to all this. I only came up with these:
1) Sternberg's theory of love: I assume that Chelsea and her soon to be husband
(what's-his-name) are in the Romantic Love stage.
2) Erikson: I also assume that she's in the Intimacy vs. Isolation stage.
3) Celebrity: the event is another example of our obsession with celebrities.
Any psychological theory to tap into here?
I'll probably make another stop by in town today so if you think of any
questions I should ask people let me know. Not that I'm caught up in the whole
thing
Michael
Michael Britt
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RE: [tips] Chelsea Madness - psychological angle?
OK, Beth,
202 456, the office is staffed by volunteers and is closed on weekends.
This (availability of the number) seems to dissolve degrees of separation,
doesn't it (to a degree)?
I called to make sure I had the correct number.
Joann
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From: Beth Benoit [mailto:beth.ben...@gmail.com]
Sent: Sat 7/31/2010 9:02 AM
To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS)
Subject: Re: [tips] Chelsea Madness - psychological angle?
I'll take it! I'll take it!!
Beth Benoit
On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 11:59 AM, Joann Jelly jje...@barstow.edu wrote:
In reply to Beth especially, a friend gave me the Obama White House telephone
number on which anyone can leave a message for Mr. Obama (reportedly). I just
love having it; I wonder what degree of separation is that. I called once on
a Saturday and a lovely, rich voice advised that I call back during the week to
leave a message. What a great idea (the telephone message idea).
Aside from the degrees of separation, (I wonder if we want to keep), when folks
unrealistically criticize the current political structure to me, I say, Well,
do you want his phone number? You can leave a message for him! No one has
yet taken me up on it.
Joann Jelly, Ed.
Psychology Instructor
_
From: Beth Benoit [mailto:beth.ben...@gmail.com]
Sent: Sat 7/31/2010 6:24 AM
To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS)
Subject: Re: [tips] Chelsea Madness - psychological angle?
I think it might be fun to make note of how many degrees of separation there
can be where BIRGing (basking in reflected glory) is going on. (Cialdini made
this concept popular, describing how people feel their self-identity is
enhanced by their association - sometimes at quite a distance - from a
celebrity, person of importance, etc.)
You might search for people's reports that they're involved in this event
somehow. (My husband's cousin's fiance is a waiter who might be serving at
the reception, [3+ degrees] I was just getting in my car when Hillary's
limousine drove by, {pretty distant 3 degrees] etc.) You'd probably also need
to include yourself, Michael, since you posted that Rhinebeck is your hometown,
and thus...well, you know the rest.
Enjoy the craziness!
Beth Benoit
Granite State College
Plymouth State University
New Hampshire
On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 8:59 AM, Michael Britt mich...@thepsychfiles.com
wrote:
No doubt everyone has heard that Chelsea Clinton is getting married today in
Rhinebeck, New York. Well, that's my hometown so it's pretty nutty around here
with all the celebrity-spotting and no-fly zone stuff going on. People have
been waiting around for hours to catch a glimpse of anyone famous. Rumor had
it that Oprah stopped by at a well known ice cream stop called the Holy Cow
to get an ice cream. That piece of news was making the rounds.
I was in the middle of the fray yesterday with my camera wondering if there is
a psychological angle to all this. I only came up with these:
1) Sternberg's theory of love: I assume that Chelsea and her soon to be husband
(what's-his-name) are in the Romantic Love stage.
2) Erikson: I also assume that she's in the Intimacy vs. Isolation stage.
3) Celebrity: the event is another example of our obsession with celebrities.
Any psychological theory to tap into here?
I'll probably make another stop by in town today so if you think of any
questions I should ask people let me know. Not that I'm caught up in the whole
thing
Michael
Michael Britt
mich...@thepsychfiles.com
http://www.ThePsychFiles.com http://www.thepsychfiles.com/
http://www.thepsychfiles.com/
Twitter: mbritt
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