RE: [tips] Things That Make You Say "WTF!?"
I appreciate both points, the first being the all too common FAE, And we might to adjust our attributions even further when considering the daunting and not necessarily ego-boosting research on the role of our unconscious mind. One must read for all is Mlodinow captivating book, Subliminal: How Your Unconscious Mind Rules Your Behavior. The implications of this work is even when we attribute behavior to the individual, we need to be aware that it could have been the result of a decisions made by their unconscious mind below their awareness. The unconscious is a whiz when it comes to making crucial decisions in a flash but it also has the dark side regarding prejudices learned early. I have not read anything about Dr. Bochhofer but feel my comments are relevant to how we explain others' behaviors generally. I'd also like to applaud Stuart's encouragement for us all to direct our criticisms at the behavior versus the person. Far, far more productive. Joan Joan Warmbold Boggs Professor of Psychology Oakton Community College > Dear Tipsters, > > I am always interested when people who do inappropriate things say > afterwards that that is not "who they are" (or words to that effect). They > are making a separation that we psychologists often make when speaking > about reprimanding people: focus on the behaviour, not the person. For > example, "Do not do that. That is wrong." Not "You are bad. You are > a...(choose a nasty word describing as person)." Interestingly, I > assume that when we offer this advice, our goal is to change the offending > behaviour so that it becomes habitual and therefore become part of who the > person is. > > So when people make this distinction to "explain" or "excuse" this > behaviour, it may be true that it was a one-off event perhaps generated by > special external or internal circumstances, but it could also be > reflecting what they believe and "who they are". > > How do we tell the difference? And can the problem be dealt with using our > recommended methods? > > Stuart > > > > > > ___ > "Floreat Labore" > > > "Recti cultus pectora roborant" > > Stuart J. McKelvie, Ph.D., Phone: 819 822 9600 x 2402 > Department of Psychology, Fax: 819 822 9661 > Bishop's University, > 2600 rue College, > Sherbrooke, > Québec J1M 1Z7, > Canada. > > E-mail: stuart.mckel...@ubishops.ca (or smcke...@ubishops.ca) > > Bishop's University Psychology Department Web Page: > http://www.ubishops.ca/ccc/div/soc/psy > > Floreat Labore" > > > > > _______________ > > > > > -Original Message- > From: Miguel Roig [mailto:ro...@stjohns.edu] > Sent: July-28-18 7:22 AM > To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) > Subject: RE: [tips] Things That Make You Say "WTF!?" > > I'd love to see a blind review of the accuracy of his radiology reports > that have been classified by the ethnicity of the patient (I assume that > the radiologist has this type of information at hand when reviewing > x-rays, MRIs, etc.). > > Miguel > > From: Christopher Green [chri...@yorku.ca] > Sent: Friday, July 27, 2018 10:15 PM > To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) > Subject: Re: [tips] Things That Make You Say "WTF!?" > > I don't believe a word of his retraction. This wasn't a drunken, impulsive > outburst, but an ongoing commentary. I can only assume that he was told > his only hope for keeping his job was a total retraction and abject public > apology. Be on the lookout for future reversions to form. > > Chris > ... > Christopher D Green > Department of Psychology > York University > Toronto, ON M3J 1P3 > Canada > > chri...@yorku.ca<mailto:chri...@yorku.ca> > http://www.yorku.ca/christo > > On Jul 27, 2018, at 9:51 PM, Michael Palij > mailto:m...@nyu.edu>> wrote: > > > > > I am at a loss for words. See: > http://gothamist.com/2018/07/27/white_supremacist_doctor_apologizes.php > > -Mike Palij > New York University > m...@nyu.edu<mailto:m...@nyu.edu> > > > --- > > You are currently subscribed to tips as: > chri...@yorku.ca<mailto:chri...@yorku.ca>. > > To unsubscribe click here: &g
RE: [tips] Things That Make You Say "WTF!?"
Dear Tipsters, I am always interested when people who do inappropriate things say afterwards that that is not "who they are" (or words to that effect). They are making a separation that we psychologists often make when speaking about reprimanding people: focus on the behaviour, not the person. For example, "Do not do that. That is wrong." Not "You are bad. You are a...(choose a nasty word describing as person)." Interestingly, I assume that when we offer this advice, our goal is to change the offending behaviour so that it becomes habitual and therefore become part of who the person is. So when people make this distinction to "explain" or "excuse" this behaviour, it may be true that it was a one-off event perhaps generated by special external or internal circumstances, but it could also be reflecting what they believe and "who they are". How do we tell the difference? And can the problem be dealt with using our recommended methods? Stuart ___ "Floreat Labore" "Recti cultus pectora roborant" Stuart J. McKelvie, Ph.D., Phone: 819 822 9600 x 2402 Department of Psychology, Fax: 819 822 9661 Bishop's University, 2600 rue College, Sherbrooke, Québec J1M 1Z7, Canada. E-mail: stuart.mckel...@ubishops.ca (or smcke...@ubishops.ca) Bishop's University Psychology Department Web Page: http://www.ubishops.ca/ccc/div/soc/psy Floreat Labore" ___ -Original Message- From: Miguel Roig [mailto:ro...@stjohns.edu] Sent: July-28-18 7:22 AM To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) Subject: RE: [tips] Things That Make You Say "WTF!?" I'd love to see a blind review of the accuracy of his radiology reports that have been classified by the ethnicity of the patient (I assume that the radiologist has this type of information at hand when reviewing x-rays, MRIs, etc.). Miguel From: Christopher Green [chri...@yorku.ca] Sent: Friday, July 27, 2018 10:15 PM To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) Subject: Re: [tips] Things That Make You Say "WTF!?" I don't believe a word of his retraction. This wasn't a drunken, impulsive outburst, but an ongoing commentary. I can only assume that he was told his only hope for keeping his job was a total retraction and abject public apology. Be on the lookout for future reversions to form. Chris ... Christopher D Green Department of Psychology York University Toronto, ON M3J 1P3 Canada chri...@yorku.ca<mailto:chri...@yorku.ca> http://www.yorku.ca/christo On Jul 27, 2018, at 9:51 PM, Michael Palij mailto:m...@nyu.edu>> wrote: I am at a loss for words. See: http://gothamist.com/2018/07/27/white_supremacist_doctor_apologizes.php -Mike Palij New York University m...@nyu.edu<mailto:m...@nyu.edu> --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: chri...@yorku.ca<mailto:chri...@yorku.ca>. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=430248.781165b5ef80a3cd2b14721caf62bd92&n=T&l=tips&o=52614 (It may be necessary to cut and paste the above URL if the line is broken) or send a blank email to leave-52614-430248.781165b5ef80a3cd2b14721caf62b...@fsulist.frostburg.edu<mailto:leave-52614-430248.781165b5ef80a3cd2b14721caf62b...@fsulist.frostburg.edu> --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: ro...@stjohns.edu<mailto:ro...@stjohns.edu>. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=3343621.18283a1227eb73d1ce74b7f7163cf851&n=T&l=tips&o=52615 (It may be necessary to cut and paste the above URL if the line is broken) or send a blank email to leave-52615-3343621.18283a1227eb73d1ce74b7f7163cf...@fsulist.frostburg.edu<mailto:leave-52615-3343621.18283a1227eb73d1ce74b7f7163cf...@fsulist.frostburg.edu> --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: smcke...@ubishops.ca. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13510.2cc18398df2e6692fffc29a610cb72e3&n=T&l=tips&o=52620 or send a blank email to leave-52620-13510.2cc18398df2e6692fffc29a610cb7...@fsulist.frostburg.edu --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: arch...@mail-archive.com. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df5d5&n=T&l=tips&o=52621 or send a blank email to leave-52621-13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df...@fsulist.frostburg.edu
RE: [tips] Things That Make You Say "WTF!?"
I'd love to see a blind review of the accuracy of his radiology reports that have been classified by the ethnicity of the patient (I assume that the radiologist has this type of information at hand when reviewing x-rays, MRIs, etc.). Miguel From: Christopher Green [chri...@yorku.ca] Sent: Friday, July 27, 2018 10:15 PM To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) Subject: Re: [tips] Things That Make You Say "WTF!?" I don’t believe a word of his retraction. This wasn’t a drunken, impulsive outburst, but an ongoing commentary. I can only assume that he was told his only hope for keeping his job was a total retraction and abject public apology. Be on the lookout for future reversions to form. Chris ... Christopher D Green Department of Psychology York University Toronto, ON M3J 1P3 Canada chri...@yorku.ca<mailto:chri...@yorku.ca> http://www.yorku.ca/christo On Jul 27, 2018, at 9:51 PM, Michael Palij mailto:m...@nyu.edu>> wrote: I am at a loss for words. See: http://gothamist.com/2018/07/27/white_supremacist_doctor_apologizes.php -Mike Palij New York University m...@nyu.edu<mailto:m...@nyu.edu> --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: chri...@yorku.ca<mailto:chri...@yorku.ca>. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=430248.781165b5ef80a3cd2b14721caf62bd92&n=T&l=tips&o=52614 (It may be necessary to cut and paste the above URL if the line is broken) or send a blank email to leave-52614-430248.781165b5ef80a3cd2b14721caf62b...@fsulist.frostburg.edu<mailto:leave-52614-430248.781165b5ef80a3cd2b14721caf62b...@fsulist.frostburg.edu> --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: ro...@stjohns.edu<mailto:ro...@stjohns.edu>. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=3343621.18283a1227eb73d1ce74b7f7163cf851&n=T&l=tips&o=52615 (It may be necessary to cut and paste the above URL if the line is broken) or send a blank email to leave-52615-3343621.18283a1227eb73d1ce74b7f7163cf...@fsulist.frostburg.edu<mailto:leave-52615-3343621.18283a1227eb73d1ce74b7f7163cf...@fsulist.frostburg.edu> --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: arch...@mail-archive.com. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df5d5&n=T&l=tips&o=52620 or send a blank email to leave-52620-13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df...@fsulist.frostburg.edu
Re: [tips] Things That Make You Say "WTF!?"
I don’t believe a word of his retraction. This wasn’t a drunken, impulsive outburst, but an ongoing commentary. I can only assume that he was told his only hope for keeping his job was a total retraction and abject public apology. Be on the lookout for future reversions to form. Chris ... Christopher D Green Department of Psychology York University Toronto, ON M3J 1P3 Canada chri...@yorku.ca http://www.yorku.ca/christo > On Jul 27, 2018, at 9:51 PM, Michael Palij wrote: > > > > I am at a loss for words. See: > http://gothamist.com/2018/07/27/white_supremacist_doctor_apologizes.php > > -Mike Palij > New York University > m...@nyu.edu > > --- > > You are currently subscribed to tips as: chri...@yorku.ca. > > To unsubscribe click here: > http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=430248.781165b5ef80a3cd2b14721caf62bd92&n=T&l=tips&o=52614 > > (It may be necessary to cut and paste the above URL if the line is broken) > > or send a blank email to > leave-52614-430248.781165b5ef80a3cd2b14721caf62b...@fsulist.frostburg.edu > --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: arch...@mail-archive.com. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df5d5&n=T&l=tips&o=52615 or send a blank email to leave-52615-13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df...@fsulist.frostburg.edu
