[TLS]Re: Working Group Last Call for Legacy RSASSA-PKCS1-v1_5 codepoints for TLS 1.3

2024-06-05 Thread Sean Turner
WGLC closes out today.

spt

> On Jun 3, 2024, at 11:43, Sean Turner  wrote:
> 
> Hi! WGLC ends on Wednesday.  I know this I-D is not all that exciting and 
> most of the “discussion" was about whether to adopt the I-D at all, but it 
> would be great if we had a couple of more people chime in.  If you remember, 
> when we used the show of hands tool to help determine whether there was 
> consensus to adopt this draft there were 36 who wanted it adopted.
> 
> spt
> 
>> On May 28, 2024, at 09:44, Sean Turner  wrote:
>> 
>> Just a reminder that this WGLC is still ongoing.
>> 
>> spt
>> 
>>> On May 22, 2024, at 10:14, Sean Turner  wrote:
>>> 
>>> This email starts the working group last call for "Legacy RSASSA-PKCS1-v1_5 
>>> codepoints for TLS 1.3” I-D, located here:
>>> 
>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-tls-tls13-pkcs1/
>>> 
>>> The WG Last Call will end 5 June 2024 @ 2359 UTC.
>>> 
>>> Please review the I-D and submit issues and pull requests via the GitHub 
>>> repository that can be found at:
>>> 
>>> https://github.com/tlswg/tls13-pkcs1
>>> 
>>> Alternatively, you can also send your comments to tls@ietf.org.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> spt
>> 
> 

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[TLS]Re: Working Group Last Call for Legacy RSASSA-PKCS1-v1_5 codepoints for TLS 1.3

2024-06-03 Thread Sean Turner
Hi! WGLC ends on Wednesday.  I know this I-D is not all that exciting and most 
of the “discussion" was about whether to adopt the I-D at all, but it would be 
great if we had a couple of more people chime in.  If you remember, when we 
used the show of hands tool to help determine whether there was consensus to 
adopt this draft there were 36 who wanted it adopted.

spt

> On May 28, 2024, at 09:44, Sean Turner  wrote:
> 
> Just a reminder that this WGLC is still ongoing.
> 
> spt
> 
>> On May 22, 2024, at 10:14, Sean Turner  wrote:
>> 
>> This email starts the working group last call for "Legacy RSASSA-PKCS1-v1_5 
>> codepoints for TLS 1.3” I-D, located here:
>> 
>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-tls-tls13-pkcs1/
>> 
>> The WG Last Call will end 5 June 2024 @ 2359 UTC.
>> 
>> Please review the I-D and submit issues and pull requests via the GitHub 
>> repository that can be found at:
>> 
>> https://github.com/tlswg/tls13-pkcs1
>> 
>> Alternatively, you can also send your comments to tls@ietf.org.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> spt
> 

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[TLS]Re: Working Group Last Call for Legacy RSASSA-PKCS1-v1_5 codepoints for TLS 1.3

2024-05-28 Thread Sean Turner
Just a reminder that this WGLC is still ongoing.

spt

> On May 22, 2024, at 10:14, Sean Turner  wrote:
> 
> This email starts the working group last call for "Legacy RSASSA-PKCS1-v1_5 
> codepoints for TLS 1.3” I-D, located here:
> 
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-tls-tls13-pkcs1/
> 
> The WG Last Call will end 5 June 2024 @ 2359 UTC.
> 
> Please review the I-D and submit issues and pull requests via the GitHub 
> repository that can be found at:
> 
> https://github.com/tlswg/tls13-pkcs1
> 
> Alternatively, you can also send your comments to tls@ietf.org.
> 
> Thanks,
> spt

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[TLS]Re: Working Group Last Call for Legacy RSASSA-PKCS1-v1_5 codepoints for TLS 1.3

2024-05-22 Thread Andrei Popov
+1 what Rich said. Not a deal-breaker for me either way, but I would prefer 
"N", initially.

Cheers,

Andrei

-Original Message-
From: Salz, Rich  
Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2024 7:26 AM
To: Sean Turner ; TLS List 
Subject: [EXTERNAL] [TLS]Re: Working Group Last Call for Legacy 
RSASSA-PKCS1-v1_5 codepoints for TLS 1.3

> This email starts the working group last call for "Legacy RSASSA-PKCS1-v1_5 
> codepoints for TLS 1.3” I-D, located here:

No comments, ship it.

> The only comment/question I have about this I-D (and I hope this is not too 
> much of a bikeshed) is whether the Recommended column should be “D” instead 
> of “N”.

I think that would be a mistake as it makes the vast deployment of existing TPM 
machines nonconformant.  In a few years, maybe. For now, not-recommended is 
strong enough.


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[TLS]Re: Working Group Last Call for Legacy RSASSA-PKCS1-v1_5 codepoints for TLS 1.3

2024-05-22 Thread Sean Turner


> On May 22, 2024, at 10:28, David Benjamin  wrote:
> 
> On Wed, May 22, 2024 at 10:27 AM Salz, Rich 
>  wrote:
> > This email starts the working group last call for "Legacy RSASSA-PKCS1-v1_5 
> > codepoints for TLS 1.3” I-D, located here:
> 
> No comments, ship it.
> 
> > The only comment/question I have about this I-D (and I hope this is not too 
> > much of a bikeshed) is whether the Recommended column should be “D” instead 
> > of “N”.
> 
> I think that would be a mistake as it makes the vast deployment of existing 
> TPM machines nonconformant.  In a few years, maybe. For now, not-recommended 
> is strong enough.
> 
> (I don't have strong feelings on this and am happy to defer this to what 
> everyone else wants. Just briefly noting that "N" in the document isn't an 
> explicit preference here. "D" just didn't exist at the time the document was 
> written.)

I figured this was the case.  Part of the reason for raising this point now is 
to tell the IESG that we actually thought about it when somebody asks about 
whether we considered “D”.

spt
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[TLS]Re: Working Group Last Call for Legacy RSASSA-PKCS1-v1_5 codepoints for TLS 1.3

2024-05-22 Thread David Benjamin
On Wed, May 22, 2024 at 10:27 AM Salz, Rich  wrote:

> > This email starts the working group last call for "Legacy
> RSASSA-PKCS1-v1_5 codepoints for TLS 1.3” I-D, located here:
>
> No comments, ship it.
>
> > The only comment/question I have about this I-D (and I hope this is not
> too much of a bikeshed) is whether the Recommended column should be “D”
> instead of “N”.
>
> I think that would be a mistake as it makes the vast deployment of
> existing TPM machines nonconformant.  In a few years, maybe. For now,
> not-recommended is strong enough.
>

(I don't have strong feelings on this and am happy to defer this to what
everyone else wants. Just briefly noting that "N" in the document isn't an
explicit preference here. "D" just didn't exist at the time the document
was written.)

David
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[TLS]Re: Working Group Last Call for Legacy RSASSA-PKCS1-v1_5 codepoints for TLS 1.3

2024-05-22 Thread Salz, Rich
> This email starts the working group last call for "Legacy RSASSA-PKCS1-v1_5 
> codepoints for TLS 1.3” I-D, located here:

No comments, ship it.

> The only comment/question I have about this I-D (and I hope this is not too 
> much of a bikeshed) is whether the Recommended column should be “D” instead 
> of “N”.

I think that would be a mistake as it makes the vast deployment of existing TPM 
machines nonconformant.  In a few years, maybe. For now, not-recommended is 
strong enough.


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[TLS]Re: Working Group Last Call for Legacy RSASSA-PKCS1-v1_5 codepoints for TLS 1.3

2024-05-22 Thread Sean Turner

> On May 22, 2024, at 10:14, Sean Turner  wrote:
> 
> This email starts the working group last call for "Legacy RSASSA-PKCS1-v1_5 
> codepoints for TLS 1.3” I-D, located here:
> 
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-tls-tls13-pkcs1/
> 
> The WG Last Call will end 5 June 2024 @ 2359 UTC.
> 
> Please review the I-D and submit issues and pull requests via the GitHub 
> repository that can be found at:
> 
> https://github.com/tlswg/tls13-pkcs1
> 
> Alternatively, you can also send your comments to tls@ietf.org.



The only comment/question I have about this I-D (and I hope this is not too 
much of a bikeshed) is whether the Recommended column should be “D” instead of 
“N”.



spt
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