Re: [TMIC] Sicko
I haven't seen the film, but from what I have heard about national socialized medicine, I'm not for that, either. Someone just posted a few weeks ago some facts about Canadian health care with its waits and all. I know one local family from Canada who had a family member there die while waiting for treatment for an easily fixable problem. I don't know what the answer to the health care crisis is, but I don't think that's it. Barbara H. _http://barbarah.wordpress.com/_ (http://barbarah.wordpress.com/) In a message dated 11/18/2007 7:16:14 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Group I have seen the film Sicko from Michael More. A part of the film was in Europe, France and England. I know the systems there, the basic what he showed in the film was right. But it is not that way in all the countries, but the basic in Europe is the same. In principal, everyone is insured, sick or healthy. Part of the social system. As Dutch, my insurance works also in Spain and other countries. Fact is also, (what was not in the movie) when I become in an hospital in a cheaper country, my insurance forced me to stay there for the complete treatment and let me come back when I am completely done. What he showed from the States. The samples he showed were picked out, to show how bad it is. I can look through that. BBut how do you think about the movie, or is it not in the cinema's there. Who has seen it (it is on the internet to download, in the newsgroups) and what are the reactions about you from the States? Wim from Holland ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com
RE: [TMIC] Sicko
In Holland, there is also the waiting problem. But there is always a way out here. We always can go to Belgium or Germany who do not have these problems. That is not a problem wich lies in the medical care, but a gouverment who does not do the right things. Like in France and England. There is a hope discussion about it. Holland is now lead by right wing parties. Hope in the next elections the socialists have the majority, then it will get better, like it was ten years ago. Here the right wing only looks at the money, while the left wing looks for the care and the people. All the stories told in your country about socialism is not the way we see it. It is more how christianity should be in practic. The strong looks after the week. They do not hate rich people, they hate poverty in a rich world. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 08:03:04 -0500Subject: Re: [TMIC] SickoTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; tmic-list@eskimo.com I haven't seen the film, but from what I have heard about national socialized medicine, I'm not for that, either. Someone just posted a few weeks ago some facts about Canadian health care with its waits and all. I know one local family from Canada who had a family member there die while waiting for treatment for an easily fixable problem. I don't know what the answer to the health care crisis is, but I don't think that's it. Barbara H. http://barbarah.wordpress.com/ In a message dated 11/18/2007 7:16:14 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Group I have seen the film Sicko from Michael More. A part of the film was in Europe, France and England. I know the systems there, the basic what he showed in the film was right. But it is not that way in all the countries, but the basic in Europe is the same. In principal, everyone is insured, sick or healthy. Part of the social system. As Dutch, my insurance works also in Spain and other countries. Fact is also, (what was not in the movie) when I become in an hospital in a cheaper country, my insurance forced me to stay there for the complete treatment and let me come back when I am completely done. What he showed from the States. The samples he showed were picked out, to show how bad it is. I can look through that. BBut how do you think about the movie, or is it not in the cinema's there. Who has seen it (it is on the internet to download, in the newsgroups) and what are the reactions about you from the States? Wim from Holland See what's new at AOL.com and Make AOL Your Homepage. _ Nooit meer offline met Windows Live Messenger op je mobiele telefoon http://www.getlivemobile.nl/
Re: [TMIC] thanks
Wow Sally, From Hawaii (I think that is where you are) to Utah. Weather change for sure. Don't be surprised if you feel different sensations in your limbs as well with the altitude and weather changes. Otherwise, glad you will be back with us in the new year. Looking forward to hearing from you then. Safe journey, Heather in Calgary - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: tmic-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 11:51 AM Subject: [TMIC] thanks I'll be 'unsubscribing' soon as I'm moving to the mainland and too busy getting ready to read much email - and also, my computer will be in storage for a couple of months! But first I want to thank everyone for all the comments and replies that have helped me to 'hang in there' and at least have an idea of what to expect and how to best deal with this great adventure called TM. I'm still gaining ground after 2 1/2 years - just recently I'm actually feeling the muscles in my previously paralyzed leg - and now realize that it's no wonder I couldn't walk better, sooner, as I couldn't even feel my muscles, much less use them! :) On the other hand, my much overused left leg is still apparently dealing with some inflammation from the over-use and resultant piriformis syndrome causing sciatica pain! But I'm sure part of the pain is also the typical burning caused by the neuropathic pain, so it's confusing to know just what to do. But anyway, I wanted to thank everyone and wish you all a Happy Thanksgiving! I'll rejoin you sometime next year when I get re-settled. Love to you all, Sally PS: I'm excited to get to Utah to meet a fellow TMer (Denise Preston) who I've already talked to on the phone. We'll be living fairly close to each other and she's already shared with me some of the resources available in that area! -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.0/1137 - Release Date: 11/18/2007 5:15 PM
RE: [TMIC] thanks
Sally, Stop right now, don't do another thing. There is something wrong with your reality. Your not thinking right. I think everyone in the group will agree with me. Your supposed to move to Hawaii not move from. You have it backwards. It must be your TM causing you to get things all topsy-turvy and mistaken. Now go lay down, fix a cocktail, put on a little Tiny bubbles and relax. It'll all be better soon. Larry in Oklahoma who wishes he were there for the winter. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 18:51:39 +To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [TMIC] thanks I'll be 'unsubscribing' soon as I'm moving to the mainland and too busy getting ready to read much email - and also, my computer will be in storage for a couple of months! But first I want to thank everyone for all the comments and replies that have helped me to 'hang in there' and at least have an idea of what to expect and how to best deal with this great adventure called TM. I'm still gaining ground after 2 1/2 years - just recently I'm actually feeling the muscles in my previously paralyzed leg - and now realize that it's no wonder I couldn't walk better, sooner, as I couldn't even feel my muscles, much less use them! :) On the other hand, my much overused left leg is still apparently dealing with some inflammation from the over-use and resultant piriformis syndrome causing sciatica pain! But I'm sure part of the pain is also the typical burning caused by the neuropathic pain, so it's confusing to know just what to do. But anyway, I wanted to thank everyone and wish you all a Happy Thanksgiving! I'll rejoin you sometime next year when I get re-settled. Love to you all,Sally PS: I'm excited to get to Utah to meet a fellow TMer (Denise Preston) who I've already talked to on the phone. We'll be living fairly close to each other and she's already shared with me some of the resources available in that area!
Re: [TMIC] thanks
Larry, I agree with you! Jenna - Original Message From: Larry Throne [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]; tmic-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 8:04:37 PM Subject: RE: [TMIC] thanks Sally, Stop right now, don't do another thing. There is something wrong with your reality. Your not thinking right. I think everyone in the group will agree with me. Your supposed to move to Hawaii not move from. You have it backwards. It must be your TM causing you to get things all topsy-turvy and mistaken. Now go lay down, fix a cocktail, put on a little Tiny bubbles and relax. It'll all be better soon. Larry in Oklahoma who wishes he were there for the winter. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 18:51:39 + To: tmic-list@eskimo.com Subject: [TMIC] thanks I'll be 'unsubscribing' soon as I'm moving to the mainland and too busy getting ready to read much email - and also, my computer will be in storage for a couple of months! But first I want to thank everyone for all the comments and replies that have helped me to 'hang in there' and at least have an idea of what to expect and how to best deal with this great adventure called TM. I'm still gaining ground after 2 1/2 years - just recently I'm actually feeling the muscles in my previously paralyzed leg - and now realize that it's no wonder I couldn't walk better, sooner, as I couldn't even feel my muscles, much less use them! :) On the other hand, my much overused left leg is still apparently dealing with some inflammation from the over-use and resultant piriformis syndrome causing sciatica pain! But I'm sure part of the pain is also the typical burning caused by the neuropathic pain, so it's confusing to know just what to do. But anyway, I wanted to thank everyone and wish you all a Happy Thanksgiving! I'll rejoin you sometime next year when I get re-settled. Love to you all, Sally PS: I'm excited to get to Utah to meet a fellow TMer (Denise Preston) who I've already talked to on the phone. We'll be living fairly close to each other and she's already shared with me some of the resources available in that area! Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
