RE: [TMIC] med question - meloxicam and baclofen

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From: randy rankin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 5:02 PM
To: TM Group
Subject: [TMIC] med question - meloxicam and baclofen

Ok - what's the scoop on these drugs. Have any of you all taken them?

Did they help?

Where there any significant side effects?

I was sent to a bone doc. to have a look.

He wants me to try baclofen for spasms, (i didn't know that I was having them - 
everyone else says that I'm not have spasms - I'm so confussed on the term 
spasms. - first neuro talked about my legs being spastic because they wouldn't 
move - he pick them up and the right leg would stick in mid area lol - he'd 
have to push it back down. When I mentioned spasm later, everyone would look 
at me oddly and say that I wasn't having spasms. Now this guy is giving me meds 
for spasms and says that my right leg shows signs of spasticity)

He said my vert was great - mild degeneration in mid T and at L-5 S-1 - which I 
already knew about. The 'arthritis' is genetic/ getting older he said - but 
it is unusual for my age. He said my 2001 car accident didn't have anything to 
do with it - but my chiro told me in 01 that it would come in time because it 
almost always shows up in a few years after a major collision. Anyway - what's 
the scoop on all these meds. before I decide to go ahead and take them I just 
wanted find out if it is worth the time.




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[TMIC] RE: tmic-digest Digest V2008 #158

2008-04-04 Thread marieke dufresne

Spasms vs Spastic :
Spasm:  is a sudden, involuntary contraction of a muscle, a group of muscles, 
or a hollow organ, or a similarly sudden contraction of an orifice. It is 
sometimes accompanied by a sudden burst of pain,
but is usually harmless and ceases after a few minutes. Spasmodic
muscle contraction may also be due to a large number of medical
conditions, however, including the dystonias.

Spastic: The term generally originates from spasticity, a medical condition 
characterized by hypertonia, or a high degree of muscle tightness. Spasticity 
underlies spastic diplegia and many other forms of cerebral palsy.

Spasms come and go.. being spastic, like your leg means that the muscle DOES 
not know how to relax at all, when put into action, so to speak. Like when your 
MD held your leg up and it stays there and/or slowly lowers without you doing 
any of the work.

The baclofen will help with this and can improve your walking ability (if you 
are able to walk). 
The most COMMON side effects persist or become bothersome:
Constipation; dizziness; drowsiness; fatigue; headache; nausea; sleeplessness.
Your body will become accustomed to this and you start at a low dose in any 
case, and titrate up slowly to be able to adjust.

Meloxicam is for your arthritis... it's an NSAID (nonsteroidal 
anti-inflammatory drug)
The most COMMON side effects persist or become bothersome:
Constipation; diarrhea; dizziness; gas; headache; heartburn; nausea;
stomach upset; trouble sleeping.

FYI www.drugs.com for when you want to look up drugs.

Marieke

Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 08:34:27 -0700
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tmic-digest Digest  Volume 2008 : Issue 158
 
Today's Topics:
  [TMIC] med question - meloxicam and   [ randy rankin [EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
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Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 17:02:03 -0700
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: [TMIC] med question - meloxicam and baclofen

Ok - what's the scoop on these drugs. Have any of you all taken them?  Did 
they help? Where there any significant side effects? I was sent to a 
bone doc. to have a look.  He wants me to try baclofen for spasms, (i 
didn't know that I was having them - everyone else says that I'm not have 
spasms - I'm so confussed on the term spasms. - first neuro talked about my 
legs being spastic because they wouldn't move - he pick them up and the right 
leg would stick in mid area lol - he'd have to push it back down. When I 
mentioned spasm later, everyone would look at me oddly and say that I wasn't 
having spasms. Now this guy is giving me meds for spasms and says that my right 
leg shows signs of spasticity) He said my vert was great - mild 
degeneration in mid T and at L-5 S-1 - which I already knew about. The 
'arthritis' is
 genetic/ getting older he said - but it is unusual for my age. He said my 
2001 car accident didn't have anything to do with it - but my chiro told me in 
01 that it would come in time because it almost always shows up in a few years 
after a major collision. Anyway - what's the scoop on all these meds. before I 
decide to go ahead and take them I just wanted find out if it is worth the 
time.  

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Subject: [TMIC] RE: tmic-digest Digest V2008 #156








re: Gaylon  Nurisng School

Hi,
I am Marieke, 32 yrs old, TM since 2004 (hit me at T1, so I was totally 
paralyzed from mid-chest down). I now walk with a cane and a long (full, KAFO) 
brace. I take meds 4x a day,  for spasticity, neuro pain, low BP, bowels, 
bladder... AND I will be graduating from nursing school in 5 weeks! I have 4 
weeks of clinical left (16 days) and a week of exams and then a few weeks off 
then I start work (cross your fingers I have an interview next week).

I will not lie, nursing school is hard, freaking hard! Not just because of the 
course work, but because of TM and what it's left me with (or without) I get 
physically exhausted and basically have NO energy for anything else. Especially 
now that I have had 4 days a week of clinical... My back hurts, my leg (good 
side) hurts, more so after the 4 days of 8 hr shifts on my feet. While it's 
true you can choose where you want to work when you are done, you still have to 
be able to get through school and it's requirements in clinical (skills as well 
as required hours). When I started I had no idea if I would be able to get 
through ONE day of clinical a week the first year, let alone 2 days (in 2nd 
year) and 4 days in 3rd! BUT I made it... somehow... not sure how! LOL

If you think that you can get through the clinical days your 

Re: [TMIC] queston

2008-04-04 Thread LadyNotes
Jeanne in Dayton,
 
Congratulations on filling warmth on your butt!  We'll  take progress 
whereever we can find it.  

Naomi


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due to Transverse  Myelitis



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Re: [TMIC] QUESTION

2008-04-04 Thread LadyNotes
Ditto.  I have not been physically ill, since my TM  onset.  I did not even 
get a flu shot this year, but I have not had a cold  or flu, or any of these 
things since I've had TM (knock on wood).  

Naomi


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[TMIC] Jude is back in the nursing home

2008-04-04 Thread pjv1234
I just spoke with Jude on the telephone and she asked me to update everyone te 
with her whereabouts.

Jude was moved from the hospital to the nursing home (due to the insurance 
company's insistance) this morning. (Friday)
Jude had been given all the information for a move to the town of Fenton, but 
while on route received word that a room was available in the nursing home in 
Flushing  where  she had been before her hospital stay.  
I don't know who determines what home she goes to, but we all know she didn't 
receive good care where she is now.  She is in private room this time and 
already wonders if they are going to let her leave the room or keep her in 
isolation.

Jude slept all afternoon and is now ready for those of you who have been in 
touch by phone.

Patti - Michigan 



Re: [TMIC] queston

2008-04-04 Thread jrushton
Thank you, Naomi!  You are so right in that we get pretty excited whenever
there is a positive change even if it is on one's butt!!!  I have fallen so
many times sitting somewhere because I can't tell if I'm sitting squarely on
the seat.  We just laugh about it and go on!  

When I ride the mower I have to feel off and on to make sure I'm even in the
center!!  And I am sure not complaining because now I can move!  But I do
want to know how you are!  I truly do!!

Jeanne

  
 
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Jeanne in Dayton,
 
Congratulations on filling warmth on your butt!  We'll take progress
whereever we can find it. 
 
Naomi
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RE: [TMIC] QUESTION

2008-04-04 Thread wim from holland

The TM made that some tissue around the spine is damaged. This damaged tissue 
is seen by the body as wrong element. The immune system attacs this tissue. The 
fact that some parts are not working or bad working is proof that the immune 
system is working.
 
Thats why some people get treatments to bring the immune system to zero, in the 
hope that when it recoveres, the body is back to normal. At the end, I never 
heard proof it worked, sometimes for a short period.
 
Fact is when I have a UTI, I have erections , while being heathy, forget it. 
What ever I tried. Also when I go for a pee, I can empty my bladder complete, 
normal I have to caterise. So when the immune system let me down at some 
points, parts will work.
 
Wim from Holland
 
 


Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 13:09:29 -0400From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 
[TMIC] QUESTION

It is funny after having TM for more than 10 years I still don't truly 
understand it. Do we have weak immune systems or did we merely have an episode 
in which our immune system did not work properly…a one time (for many of us) 
thing?
Rob in New Jersey 
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Re: [TMIC] queston

2008-04-04 Thread LinLeftwi
I think it is so strange that sometimes I feel good and other days I have  
burning and tingling.  What makes us feel so different if there is no  change?  
I cannot understand that at all.  I have had MRI's every year  for the past 5 
years and as far as lesions and spots on my brain goes, nothing  has changed.
 
   
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Re: [TMIC] queston

2008-04-04 Thread Diane
Me too Linda. Guess that nerve network has a mind of its own.  There are times 
though that I do find an answer if I take my emotional temperature or remind 
myself that I did a bit more than usual yesterday.  There always seems to be a 
price to pay for anything I do.  Most annoying - like TODAY !!
Diane in Canada
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  I think it is so strange that sometimes I feel good and other days I have 
burning and tingling.  What makes us feel so different if there is no change?  
I cannot understand that at all.  I have had MRI's every year for the past 5 
years and as far as lesions and spots on my brain goes, nothing has changed.


Linda in Pa





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RE: [TMIC] RE: tmic-digest Digest V2008 #158

2008-04-04 Thread Gerry Surette
no I contacted tm at the ripr old age of 21. I have had two relapses since 
then. I am now 60 years young ' have  had tmsince 2001. It is progressive. I 
now have contacted ITP and have to undergo Iv immunglobulin five days a week 
five hours a day; prior to having my spleen removed on April 29th of this 
month. Life is full of surprises




From: jrushton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Gerry Surette [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [TMIC] RE: tmic-digest Digest V2008 #158
Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 16:03:42 -0500 (Central Daylight Time)

Gerry, you were also a nurse???

Jeanne

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From: Gerry Surette
Date: 4/4/2008 2:50:57 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: tmic-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [TMIC] RE: tmic-digest Digest V2008 #158

HI; this is Gerry: I am proud of you; I have been following your progress.
with your daily clinical days being on your feet 10 to 12 hiours . I know
how you must be feeling. been there done that. don't have the tee shirt
though. I am going to have my spleen removed on the 29th of april, at the
montreal general hospital. would you by any chance be doing your clinical
days at that hospital? if so it would be an honor and privilege to meet 
you.

You are an inspiraation ; I have done what you are doing with your life; I
know it is hard but the rewards; as far as I am concerned ; are worth it.
please keep in touch sincerely gerry


From: marieke dufresne [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: tmic-list@eskimo.com
Subject: [TMIC] RE: tmic-digest Digest V2008 #158
Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 19:10:59 +


Spasms vs Spastic :
Spasm:  is a sudden, involuntary contraction of a muscle, a group of
muscles, or a hollow organ, or a similarly sudden contraction of an
orifice. It is sometimes accompanied by a sudden burst of pain,
but is usually harmless and ceases after a few minutes. Spasmodic
muscle contraction may also be due to a large number of medical
conditions, however, including the dystonias.

Spastic: The term generally originates from spasticity, a medical 
condition

characterized by hypertonia, or a high degree of muscle tightness.
Spasticity underlies spastic diplegia and many other forms of cerebral
palsy.

Spasms come and go.. being spastic, like your leg means that the muscle
DOES not know how to relax at all, when put into action, so to speak. 
Like

when your MD held your leg up and it stays there and/or slowly lowers
without you doing any of the work.

The baclofen will help with this and can improve your walking ability (if
you are able to walk).
The most COMMON side effects persist or become bothersome:
Constipation; dizziness; drowsiness; fatigue; headache; nausea;
sleeplessness.
Your body will become accustomed to this and you start at a low dose in 
any

case, and titrate up slowly to be able to adjust.

Meloxicam is for your arthritis... it's an NSAID (nonsteroidal
anti-inflammatory drug)
The most COMMON side effects persist or become bothersome:
Constipation; diarrhea; dizziness; gas; headache; heartburn; nausea;
stomach upset; trouble sleeping.

FYI www.drugs.com for when you want to look up drugs.

Marieke

Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 08:34:27 -0700
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: tmic-digest Digest V2008 #158
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

--Forwarded Message Attachment--

tmic-digest Digest Volume 2008 : Issue 158

Today's Topics:
   [TMIC] med question - meloxicam and   [ randy rankin
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
   [TMIC] RE: tmic-digest Digest V2008   [ marieke dufresne
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
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Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 17:02:03 -0700
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: tmic-list@eskimo.com
Subject: [TMIC] med question - meloxicam and baclofen

Ok - what's the scoop on these drugs. Have any of you all taken them?
Did they help? Where there any significant side effects? I was 
sent
to a bone doc. to have a look.  He wants me to try baclofen for 
spasms,

(i didn't know that I was having them - everyone else says that I'm not
have spasms - I'm so confussed on the term spasms. - first neuro talked
about my legs being spastic because they wouldn't move - he pick them up
and the right leg would stick in mid area lol - he'd have to push it back
down. When I mentioned spasm later, everyone would look at me oddly and
say that I wasn't having spasms. Now this guy is giving me meds for 
spasms

and says that my right leg shows signs of spasticity) He said my vert
was great - mild degeneration in mid T and at L-5 S-1 - which I already
knew about. The 'arthritis' is
  genetic/ getting older he said - but it is unusual for my age. He 
said
my 2001 car accident didn't have anything to do with it - but my chiro 
told
me in 01 that it would come in time because it almost always shows up in 
a

few years after a major collision. Anyway - what's the scoop on all these
meds. before I decide to go ahead and take them I just wanted find out if
it is worth the time.

   You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of
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Re: [TMIC] med question - meloxicam and baclofen

2008-04-04 Thread Gerry Surette
please rember to check with your neuro before discontinuing baclofen. the 
side effects could be very dangeous please see the instructions on the 
leaflet;




From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: randy rankin [EMAIL PROTECTED], TM Group tmic-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [TMIC] med question - meloxicam and baclofen
Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 17:43:29 -0400

Randy
I had similar confusion with what I heard from various medical people.
Dec 2003 my neuro rx'd baclofen for spasticity and the next day I had 
physical and occupational therapy. Both therapists told me I didn't have 
spasticity and wanted permission to talk with my neuro.  So there I was in 
my TM stupor questioning who knew best.  I started on the baclofen and have 
never discontinued it.  My Neuro knew best.
I am too flexible (rubbery) if I take over 10mg so he moved me to every six 
hours and that works for me.
I couldn't have discribed it at well as Merieke's post, however, it's 
exactly how both the spasms and spasticity feel to me.

Patti
 randy rankin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Ok - what's the scoop on these drugs. Have any of you all taken them?

   Did they help?

   Where there any significant side effects?

   I was sent to a bone doc. to have a look.

   He wants me to try baclofen for spasms, (i didn't know that I was 
having them - everyone else says that I'm not have spasms - I'm so 
confussed on the term spasms. - first neuro talked about my legs being 
spastic because they wouldn't move - he pick them up and the right leg 
would stick in mid area lol - he'd have to push it back down. When I 
mentioned spasm later, everyone would look at me oddly and say that I 
wasn't having spasms. Now this guy is giving me meds for spasms and says 
that my right leg shows signs of spasticity)


   He said my vert was great - mild degeneration in mid T and at L-5 S-1 
- which I already knew about. The 'arthritis' is genetic/ getting older 
he said - but it is unusual for my age. He said my 2001 car accident didn't 
have anything to do with it - but my chiro told me in 01 that it would come 
in time because it almost always shows up in a few years after a major 
collision. Anyway - what's the scoop on all these meds. before I decide to 
go ahead and take them I just wanted find out if it is worth the time.



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Re: [TMIC] queston

2008-04-04 Thread Heather Pieter
Wow Linda,
I wish there were days when I didn't feel the burning and tingling.  It has 
never gone away even with meds. 
Heather in Calgary 
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  I think it is so strange that sometimes I feel good and other days I have 
burning and tingling.  What makes us feel so different if there is no change?  
I cannot understand that at all.  I have had MRI's every year for the past 5 
years and as far as lesions and spots on my brain goes, nothing has changed.


Linda in Pa





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