Re: [TMIC] Cold Laser
Hi! I have not heard of cold laser at all, but it sure sounds encouraging. Frank, have you heard of this? Janice From: Janet Dunn Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2012 11:31 PM To: tmic-list@eskimo.com Subject: [TMIC] Cold Laser Hello All Today I was speaking with a lady who has intense nerve pain from some kind of knee or leg injury. She said she was getting cold laser treatments and that the treatments really helped. She was thinking that perhaps they would work for the nerve pain that comes with TM. So, I was wondering if anyone has either heard of this treatment, or has had the treatment, or any other info on this cold laser for TM. Thanks Janet
Re: [TMIC] Cold Laser
I looked it up, and it doesn't seem to have any long-term effect. I know chiropractors use it. It might be good for short term relief and they suggest that heat may work as well. I'm interested as to what others may have to say. - Roger in Kennewick, WA From: Janice Nichols To: Janet Dunn ; tmic-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2012 10:44 AM Subject: Re: [TMIC] Cold Laser Hi! I have not heard of cold laser at all, but it sure sounds encouraging. Frank, have you heard of this? Janice From: Janet Dunn Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2012 11:31 PM To: tmic-list@eskimo.com Subject: [TMIC] Cold Laser Hello All Today I was speaking with a lady who has intense nerve pain from some kind of knee or leg injury. She said she was getting cold laser treatments and that the treatments really helped. She was thinking that perhaps they would work for the nerve pain that comes with TM. So, I was wondering if anyone has either heard of this treatment, or has had the treatment, or any other info on this cold laser for TM. Thanks Janet
Fw: Re: [TMIC] Fwd: Boy Scouts OT
Chad Griffin’s Message to BSA Featured as AP ‘Quotation of the Day’HRC President Chad Griffin has been featured as an Associated Press “Quotation of the Day,” in the wake of the Boy Scouts of America’s backward decision to uphold their ban on gay scouts and leaders.The BSA decision was announced yesterday following a secret two-year policy review by the organization.Read and share Chad’s statement below: --- On Mon, 7/16/12, Dalton Garis wrote: From: Dalton Garis Subject: Re: [TMIC] Fwd: Boy Scouts OT To: "bobberino" , "Cindy McLeroy" , "Susan Kleinz" , celr...@aol.com Cc: tmic-l...@eskimo.net Date: Monday, July 16, 2012, 9:58 PM I just don't understand all this; In the old days the press and others knew the weaknesses of President Kennedy, for example; but they kept quiet so as not to debase the station of the office of President of the United States in the eyes of the world or our own citizenry, including those serving in the military and for whom the President is their Commander in Chief. Now, it seems that people will do anything to discredit the President, even lie about what actually happened or deliberately misrepresent the facts. Could this be the worst political atmosphere we have had since Andrew Jackson was President? Think about this fact: unity is a spiritual characteristic and begins with moral education first, followed by academics. Without proper moral values unity is impossible. Certainly, there has been no diminution in America's potential to out-produce, out-invent, out-feed any other country on earth. What is in doubt is if we have the unity of purpose and sense of mutual community that got us here in the first place to move ahead with what needs to be done. How much responsibility do Americans feel toward other Americans of different leanings, religious persuasions, linguistic backgrounds or national origin? Ask the public what they know about the verities of their professed religious faith and the answer, in word and deed, is very little. And whose fault is this? Who has fallen down on the job? DG. Dalton H. GarisFlushing, QueensNew York, USAMobile: 718-838-0437Landline: 917-285-2047 From: bobberino Reply-To: bobberino Date: Monday, 16 January 2012 10:45 PM To: Cindy McLeroy , Susan Kleinz , Cc: Subject: Re: [TMIC] Fwd: Boy Scouts OT Resent-From: Resent-Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 19:49:34 -0700 I agree with Cindy 110% BobbyJim - Original Message - From: Cindy McLeroy To: Susan Kleinz ; celr...@aol.com Cc: tmic-l...@eskimo.net Sent: Monday, July 16, 2012 9:00 PM Subject: Re: [TMIC] Fwd: Boy Scouts OT I thought you might find the following article from snopes.com interesting: http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/eaglescouts.asp It explains the truth about the unsigned certificates. Hope this helps clear this up as the Eagle Scout programs are so wonderful and produces such wonderful young men. I hate it when something puts both the President in a bad light and brings some attention to the Eagle Scout program that is negative - Original Message - From: Susan Kleinz To: celr...@aol.com Cc: tmic-l...@eskimo.net Sent: Monday, July 16, 2012 6:41 PM Subject: Re: [TMIC] Fwd: Boy Scouts OT Thank you! This kind of stuff scares me! Susan Kleinz Phx, AZ On Jul 12, 2012, at 5:45 AM, celr...@aol.com wrote: From: sonny...@hotmail.com Sent: 7/12/2012 12:59:46 A.M. Central Daylight Time Subj: Boy Scouts BOY SCOUTS Every President since 1912 has been the honorary President of the Boy Scouts of America. President Obama refused that honor...etc
Re: [TMIC] Fwd: Boy Scouts OT
Yes, the political atmosphere has been polluted to the nth degree this elevtion year. Mensch Rummny keeps saying that Obama has failed to deliver the jobs he promised. What Da Mensch doesn't say that such a failure is due to the insidious, persistent and strenous obstruction by the reTROpublican party which gets louder by the day. so there,BobbyJim - Original Message - From: Dalton Garis To: bobberino ; Cindy McLeroy ; Susan Kleinz ; celr...@aol.com Cc: tmic-l...@eskimo.net Sent: Monday, July 16, 2012 9:58 PM Subject: Re: [TMIC] Fwd: Boy Scouts OT I just don't understand all this; In the old days the press and others knew the weaknesses of President Kennedy, for example; but they kept quiet so as not to debase the station of the office of President of the United States in the eyes of the world or our own citizenry, including those serving in the military and for whom the President is their Commander in Chief. Now, it seems that people will do anything to discredit the President, even lie about what actually happened or deliberately misrepresent the facts. Could this be the worst political atmosphere we have had since Andrew Jackson was President?
Re: [TMIC] Cold Laser
Hi, As a retired manager of a chiropractic clinic, I can try to explain how we used cold laser therapy. When a person is injured with a sprain/strain to an extremity, such as an ankle, ice is applied for 20 minutes at a time, about every couple of hours. This is to reduce or shrink inflammation of the injured tissue. Cold laser therapy is used to reduce the bruising and/or to speed up the healing of the resultant bruising. Injury to the spinal cord such as ours (TM) is not an injury to an extremity. The pain we experience is due to the messages received by the brain that our leg, foot, arm, etc. are injured, and these are "confused messages" due to the scarring or lesion on the spinal cord. I have self-treated with cold laser to reduce swelling and bruising when I fall down (due to lack of balance caused by TM), but it has never proven to be beneficial for me for any other issues. Hope this helps. Debbie Sent from my iPod. On Jul 18, 2012, at 10:44 AM, "Janice Nichols" wrote: > Hi! > I have not heard of cold laser at all, but it sure sounds encouraging. > Frank, have you heard of this? > Janice > > > From: Janet Dunn > Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2012 11:31 PM > To: tmic-list@eskimo.com > Subject: [TMIC] Cold Laser > > > Hello All > > Today I was speaking with a lady who has intense nerve pain from some kind of > knee or leg injury. She said she was getting cold laser treatments and that > the treatments really helped. She was thinking that perhaps they would work > for the nerve pain that comes with TM. > > So, I was wondering if anyone has either heard of this treatment, or has had > the treatment, or any other info on this cold laser for TM. > > Thanks > > Janet
Re: [TMIC] Cold Laser
Debbie, Yes, that does help in understanding this.Thanks Janice From: Deborah Capen Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2012 3:59 PM To: Janice Nichols Cc: Janet Dunn ; mailto:tmic-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [TMIC] Cold Laser Hi, As a retired manager of a chiropractic clinic, I can try to explain how we used cold laser therapy. When a person is injured with a sprain/strain to an extremity, such as an ankle, ice is applied for 20 minutes at a time, about every couple of hours. This is to reduce or shrink inflammation of the injured tissue. Cold laser therapy is used to reduce the bruising and/or to speed up the healing of the resultant bruising. Injury to the spinal cord such as ours (TM) is not an injury to an extremity. The pain we experience is due to the messages received by the brain that our leg, foot, arm, etc. are injured, and these are "confused messages" due to the scarring or lesion on the spinal cord. I have self-treated with cold laser to reduce swelling and bruising when I fall down (due to lack of balance caused by TM), but it has never proven to be beneficial for me for any other issues. Hope this helps. Debbie Sent from my iPod. On Jul 18, 2012, at 10:44 AM, "Janice Nichols" wrote: Hi! I have not heard of cold laser at all, but it sure sounds encouraging. Frank, have you heard of this? Janice From: Janet Dunn Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2012 11:31 PM To: tmic-list@eskimo.com Subject: [TMIC] Cold Laser Hello All Today I was speaking with a lady who has intense nerve pain from some kind of knee or leg injury. She said she was getting cold laser treatments and that the treatments really helped. She was thinking that perhaps they would work for the nerve pain that comes with TM. So, I was wondering if anyone has either heard of this treatment, or has had the treatment, or any other info on this cold laser for TM. Thanks Janet
