Re: [TMIC] tm and the lungs

2012-08-31 Thread Dalton Garis
I remember from my 10th grade science classes this movement along some of
the smooth muscles called peristalsis or peristaltic movement.  It is what
moves our food through the gut after exiting down the stomach.

But it also controls the peristaltic or wave movement of the cilia linings
of the lungs, which are little hair like things that slowly move any foreign
things out of the lungs, where they can be coughed out.  If these cilia
become inactive due to their nerves not responding, then there could indeed
be trouble with infections, since the lungs have no capability to defend
themselves against infection.

T.M. could affect these nerves even while allowing the diaphragm to be
working mostly OK.

What about it?

Dalton

From:  Cody c...@austin.rr.com
Date:  Thursday, 30  January 2012 10:02 PM
To:  Janice Nichols jan...@centurytel.net, john snodgrass
jcs...@yahoo.com
Cc:  transverse myelitis tmic-list@eskimo.com
Subject:  Re: [TMIC] tm and the lungs
Resent-From:  tmic-list@eskimo.com
Resent-Date:  Thu, 30 Aug 2012 19:02:31 -0700

Thanks Janice. You know I have really enjoyed this machine. I get much
better rest now. I thought I would hate it.Cody
 
From: Janice Nichols mailto:jan...@centurytel.net
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 7:31 PM
To: Cody mailto:c...@austin.rr.com  ; john snodgrass
mailto:jcs...@yahoo.com
Cc: transverse myelitis mailto:tmic-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [TMIC] tm and the lungs
 
In everything I have read on TM and the problems that go with it, I would
say you are right when you say we are compromised with our immune systems.
Hope you get to where you
will not need the bipap machine for long.
Janice
 
 
From: Cody mailto:c...@austin.rr.com
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 1:36 PM
To: john snodgrass mailto:jcs...@yahoo.com
Cc: transverse myelitis mailto:tmic-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [TMIC] tm and the lungs
 
I was in ICU last December for two weeks with I very serious lung infection
that required antibiotics into my bloodstream with a pic line and with
incubation and feeding tubes. The doctors told me they could not tell if the
infection began in my lungs or my bladder. I now have to use a bipap machine
when I sleep. Still don't know if it was related my TM but my guess is the
TM has compromised my entire immune system. I had an entire regiment of
specialist including pulmonologist, neurologist, internist, radiologist,
gastroenterologist, and probably others that I forgot. Anyway I was a pretty
sick guy but they got me fixed..Cody in Austin

Sent from my iPad

On Aug 30, 2012, at 9:57 AM, john snodgrass jcs...@yahoo.com wrote:

  
  
  
 makes sense.
  
  
  
  
  
  
 
  From: Mary Anne Egan mae...@thestettlergroup.com
 To: john snodgrass jcs...@yahoo.com
 Cc: transverse myelitis tmic-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 8:10  PM
 Subject: Re: [TMIC] tm and  the lungs
  
  
  
  
  
 My daughter has lung issues second to tm but it is due to her level of  loss
 which causes lung issues and weakness which results in her scarring etc
  
 Make sense?
 
 Mary Anne Egan  
 Sent from my iPhone
  
 
 On Aug 29, 2012, at 6:45 PM, john snodgrass  mailto:jcs...@yahoo.com
 jcs...@yahoo.com  wrote:
 
  
  
  
  
 i would wonder about it in that the nervous system can effect the
 lungs,,,like Jim,,,so perhaps the spasms or whatever happens to those that
 have the lung troubhle just may have scar tissue,,but i would think that it
 would be to those that are using a ventilator
  
  
  
  
  
  
 
  From: Janice Nichols  mailto:jan...@centurytel.net jan...@centurytel.net
 To: jeff bernier  mailto:jeffsmokeea...@yahoo.com
 jeffsmokeea...@yahoo.com;   mailto:tmic-list@eskimo.com
 tmic-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 6:19  PM
 Subject: Re: [TMIC] tm  and the lungs
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
 Have never heard of that before.
  
 Janice
  
  
  
  
  
  
 From: jeff bernier mailto:jeffsmokeea...@yahoo.com
  
 Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 10:36 AM
  
 To:  mailto:tmic-list@eskimo.com tmic-list@eskimo.com
  
 Subject: [TMIC] tm and the lungs
  
  
  

  ive been having a debate with another tmr on face book  over this,she insist
 that tm can leave scar tissue and cause  inflamation of the lungs,in all the
 research ive done over the last 13  years i have never heard of this,am i
 wrong?
 
 
 
 




Re: [TMIC] Unidentified subject!

2012-08-31 Thread Janice Nichols
Todd, what do you know about this diet thing?
Janice


From: Todd Tarno 
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2012 6:27 AM
To: cos...@yahoo.com ; rboyl...@yahoo.com ; bpe...@yahoo.com ; 
grace...@gmail.com ; lifeisj...@live.com ; cherp...@msn.com ; 
tmic-list@eskimo.com ; bgunny7...@aol.com ; balmat...@aol.com 
Subject: [TMIC] Unidentified subject!

http://srcbc.edu.ph/pmngbl.php?iere=iere

Re: [TMIC] tm and the lungs

2012-08-31 Thread Janice Nichols
I think TM could cause, even inadvertently, all kinds of problems.
Janice

From: Dalton Garis 
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2012 6:33 AM
To: Cody ; Janice Nichols ; john snodgrass 
Cc: transverse myelitis 
Subject: Re: [TMIC] tm and the lungs

I remember from my 10th grade science classes this movement along some of the 
smooth muscles called peristalsis or peristaltic movement.  It is what moves 
our food through the gut after exiting down the stomach.

But it also controls the peristaltic or wave movement of the cilia linings of 
the lungs, which are little hair like things that slowly move any foreign 
things out of the lungs, where they can be coughed out.  If these cilia become 
inactive due to their nerves not responding, then there could indeed be trouble 
with infections, since the lungs have no capability to defend themselves 
against infection.

T.M. could affect these nerves even while allowing the diaphragm to be working 
mostly OK.

What about it?

Dalton

From: Cody c...@austin.rr.com
Date: Thursday, 30 January 2012 10:02 PM
To: Janice Nichols jan...@centurytel.net, john snodgrass jcs...@yahoo.com
Cc: transverse myelitis tmic-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [TMIC] tm and the lungs
Resent-From: tmic-list@eskimo.com
Resent-Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 19:02:31 -0700


Thanks Janice. You know I have really enjoyed this machine. I get much better 
rest now. I thought I would hate it.Cody 

From: Janice Nichols 
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 7:31 PM
To: Cody ; john snodgrass 
Cc: transverse myelitis 
Subject: Re: [TMIC] tm and the lungs

In everything I have read on TM and the problems that go with it, I would say 
you are right when you say we are compromised with our immune systems.Hope 
you get to where you
will not need the bipap machine for long.
Janice


From: Cody 
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 1:36 PM
To: john snodgrass 
Cc: transverse myelitis 
Subject: Re: [TMIC] tm and the lungs

I was in ICU last December for two weeks with I very serious lung infection 
that required antibiotics into my bloodstream with a pic line and with 
incubation and feeding tubes. The doctors told me they could not tell if the 
infection began in my lungs or my bladder. I now have to use a bipap machine 
when I sleep. Still don't know if it was related my TM but my guess is the TM 
has compromised my entire immune system. I had an entire regiment of specialist 
including pulmonologist, neurologist, internist, radiologist, 
gastroenterologist, and probably others that I forgot. Anyway I was a pretty 
sick guy but they got me fixed..Cody in Austin

Sent from my iPad

On Aug 30, 2012, at 9:57 AM, john snodgrass jcs...@yahoo.com wrote:


  makes sense.


--
  From: Mary Anne Egan mae...@thestettlergroup.com
  To: john snodgrass jcs...@yahoo.com 
  Cc: transverse myelitis tmic-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 8:10 PM
  Subject: Re: [TMIC] tm and the lungs


  My daughter has lung issues second to tm but it is due to her level of loss 
which causes lung issues and weakness which results in her scarring etc 
  Make sense?

  Mary Anne Egan 
  Sent from my iPhone

  On Aug 29, 2012, at 6:45 PM, john snodgrass jcs...@yahoo.com wrote:


i would wonder about it in that the nervous system can effect the 
lungs,,,like Jim,,,so perhaps the spasms or whatever happens to those that have 
the lung troubhle just may have scar tissue,,but i would think that it would be 
to those that are using a ventilator 



From: Janice Nichols jan...@centurytel.net
To: jeff bernier jeffsmokeea...@yahoo.com; tmic-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 6:19 PM
Subject: Re: [TMIC] tm and the lungs


Have never heard of that before.
Janice

From: jeff bernier 
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 10:36 AM
To: tmic-list@eskimo.com 
Subject: [TMIC] tm and the lungs

  ive been having a debate with another tmr on face book over this,she 
insist that tm can leave scar tissue and cause inflamation of the lungs,in all 
the research ive done over the last 13 years i have never heard of this,am i 
wrong? 








Re: [TMIC] Unidentified subject!

2012-08-31 Thread Todd Tarno
Sorry, I didn't send out this e-mail.



From: Janice Nichols jan...@centurytel.net
To: Todd Tarno toddtm2...@sbcglobal.net; cos...@yahoo.com; 
rboyl...@yahoo.com; 
bpe...@yahoo.com; grace...@gmail.com; lifeisj...@live.com; cherp...@msn.com; 
tmic-list@eskimo.com; bgunny7...@aol.com; balmat...@aol.com
Sent: Fri, August 31, 2012 9:37:25 AM
Subject: Re: [TMIC] Unidentified subject!


Todd, what do you know about this diet thing?
Janice
  
From: Todd Tarno 
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2012 6:27 AM
To: cos...@yahoo.com ; rboyl...@yahoo.com ; bpe...@yahoo.com ; 
grace...@gmail.com ; lifeisj...@live.com ; cherp...@msn.com ; 
tmic-list@eskimo.com ; bgunny7...@aol.com ; balmat...@aol.com 

Subject: [TMIC] Unidentified subject!
  http://srcbc.edu.ph/pmngbl.php?iere=iere