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I believe I didn't send this to the whole group when I replied. And if I did, I apologize for sending it again. I was concerned about using the Aspercreme Heat Pain Relieving Gel because of my inability to feel heat but my husband had a good idea -- just try it on one little spot and if it bothers me than its an easy wipe off. Well it didn't --- I take 80mg a day of Baclofen and still have problems although it REALLY helps me. 20mg 4x a day. Doc is going to keep me at that. So, I thought I would just get used to what it isn't taking care of. Went to CVS this evening and purchased the Fast Acting Therapy Aspercreme Heat Pain Relieving Gel Hopefully this is the right kind. (little nervous since I can't feel heat) But I am so excited to see if this works. I will use it tonight and let y'all know how it worked for me. Please, if anyone has tried it and has problems with topical pain or the inability to feel heat let me know if it makes a difference. THANK YOU Forwarded conversation Subject: [TMIC] try this From: *jeff bernier* jeffsmokeea...@yahoo.com Date: Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 10:16 AM To: tmic-list@eskimo.com, msersl...@yahoogroups.com for those of you with problems with spastisity heres a trick i learned.i have a baclofen pump and take 5 mg clonipin daily and still get spasms in my legs.i have found that aspercream hot for arthritis works outstanding,i had heard this from another person with ms and it worked. -- From: *john snodgrass* jcs...@yahoo.com Date: Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 10:28 AM To: tmic-list@eskimo.com tmic-list@eskimo.com i had heard of using hot muscle rub but never tried it but i might now. thanks Jeff -- *From:* jeff bernier jeffsmokeea...@yahoo.com *To:* tmic-list@eskimo.com; msersl...@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Thursday, July 26, 2012 11:16 AM *Subject:* [TMIC] try this for those of you with problems with spastisity heres a trick i learned.i have a baclofen pump and take 5 mg clonipin daily and still get spasms in my legs.i have found that aspercream hot for arthritis works outstanding,i had heard this from another person with ms and it worked. -- From: *Janice Nichols* jan...@centurytel.net Date: Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 10:32 AM To: jeff bernier jeffsmokeea...@yahoo.com, tmic-list@eskimo.com, msersl...@yahoogroups.com Thanks.I take baclofen and it works most every nite, but then I have the occasional problem nite. Will try aspercream. Janice *From:* jeff bernier jeffsmokeea...@yahoo.com *Sent:* Thursday, July 26, 2012 10:16 AM *To:* tmic-list@eskimo.com ; msersl...@yahoogroups.com *Subject:* [TMIC] try this for those of you with problems with spastisity heres a trick i learned.i have a baclofen pump and take 5 mg clonipin daily and still get spasms in my legs.i have found that aspercream hot for arthritis works outstanding,i had heard this from another person with ms and it worked. -- From: ** em...@telephonelady.com Date: Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 12:43 PM To: jeff bernier jeffsmokeea...@yahoo.com, tmic-list@eskimo.com, msersl...@yahoogroups.com ** Do you put it directly on the muscles that are spasing? Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -- *From: * jeff bernier jeffsmokeea...@yahoo.com *Date: *Thu, 26 Jul 2012 08:16:02 -0700 (PDT) *To: *tmic-list@eskimo.com; msersl...@yahoogroups.com *Subject: *[TMIC] try this for those of you with problems with spastisity heres a trick i learned.i have a baclofen pump and take 5 mg clonipin daily and still get spasms in my legs.i have found that aspercream hot for arthritis works outstanding,i had heard this from another person with ms and it worked. -- From: *Bridget Skinner* ibridg...@gmail.com Date: Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 7:59 PM To: Janice Nichols jan...@centurytel.net I take 80mg a day of Baclofen and still have problems although it REALLY helps me. 20mg 4x a day. Doc is going to keep me at that. So, I thought I would just get used to what it isn't taking care of. Went to CVS this evening and purchased the Fast Acting Therapy Aspercreme Heat Pain Relieving Gel Hopefully this is the right kind. (little nervous since I can't feel heat) But I am so excited to see if this works. I will use it tonight and let y'all know how it worked for me. Please, if anyone has tried it and has problems with topical pain or the inability to feel heat let me know if it makes a difference. THANK YOU
Re: [TMIC] try this
*Sorry I twitched and hit the send button too early. Anyway, it didn't bother me at all. I used it knees to toes. Made all the difference in the world. When I have taken my baclofen and still hurt this is the way to go. You would think morphine and norco would take care of these sensations but they take care of other types of pain - not spastisity or nerve pain. Thank you for the tip. It's nice to use something that I can pick up something at the store that really works and I don't need to see a doc first. * On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 8:26 AM, Bridget Skinner ibridg...@gmail.comwrote: *I believe I didn't send this to the whole group when I replied. And if I did, I apologize for sending it again. * *I was concerned about using the Aspercreme Heat Pain Relieving Gel because of my inability to feel heat but my husband had a good idea -- just try it on one little spot and if it bothers me than its an easy wipe off. Well it didn't * --- I take 80mg a day of Baclofen and still have problems although it REALLY helps me. 20mg 4x a day. Doc is going to keep me at that. So, I thought I would just get used to what it isn't taking care of. Went to CVS this evening and purchased the Fast Acting Therapy Aspercreme Heat Pain Relieving Gel Hopefully this is the right kind. (little nervous since I can't feel heat) But I am so excited to see if this works. I will use it tonight and let y'all know how it worked for me. Please, if anyone has tried it and has problems with topical pain or the inability to feel heat let me know if it makes a difference. THANK YOU Forwarded conversation Subject: [TMIC] try this From: *jeff bernier* jeffsmokeea...@yahoo.com Date: Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 10:16 AM To: tmic-list@eskimo.com, msersl...@yahoogroups.com for those of you with problems with spastisity heres a trick i learned.i have a baclofen pump and take 5 mg clonipin daily and still get spasms in my legs.i have found that aspercream hot for arthritis works outstanding,i had heard this from another person with ms and it worked. -- From: *john snodgrass* jcs...@yahoo.com Date: Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 10:28 AM To: tmic-list@eskimo.com tmic-list@eskimo.com i had heard of using hot muscle rub but never tried it but i might now. thanks Jeff -- *From:* jeff bernier jeffsmokeea...@yahoo.com *To:* tmic-list@eskimo.com; msersl...@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Thursday, July 26, 2012 11:16 AM *Subject:* [TMIC] try this for those of you with problems with spastisity heres a trick i learned.i have a baclofen pump and take 5 mg clonipin daily and still get spasms in my legs.i have found that aspercream hot for arthritis works outstanding,i had heard this from another person with ms and it worked. -- From: *Janice Nichols* jan...@centurytel.net Date: Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 10:32 AM To: jeff bernier jeffsmokeea...@yahoo.com, tmic-list@eskimo.com, msersl...@yahoogroups.com Thanks.I take baclofen and it works most every nite, but then I have the occasional problem nite. Will try aspercream. Janice *From:* jeff bernier jeffsmokeea...@yahoo.com *Sent:* Thursday, July 26, 2012 10:16 AM *To:* tmic-list@eskimo.com ; msersl...@yahoogroups.com *Subject:* [TMIC] try this for those of you with problems with spastisity heres a trick i learned.i have a baclofen pump and take 5 mg clonipin daily and still get spasms in my legs.i have found that aspercream hot for arthritis works outstanding,i had heard this from another person with ms and it worked. -- From: ** em...@telephonelady.com Date: Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 12:43 PM To: jeff bernier jeffsmokeea...@yahoo.com, tmic-list@eskimo.com, msersl...@yahoogroups.com ** Do you put it directly on the muscles that are spasing? Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -- *From: * jeff bernier jeffsmokeea...@yahoo.com *Date: *Thu, 26 Jul 2012 08:16:02 -0700 (PDT) *To: *tmic-list@eskimo.com; msersl...@yahoogroups.com *Subject: *[TMIC] try this for those of you with problems with spastisity heres a trick i learned.i have a baclofen pump and take 5 mg clonipin daily and still get spasms in my legs.i have found that aspercream hot for arthritis works outstanding,i had heard this from another person with ms and it worked. -- From: *Bridget Skinner* ibridg...@gmail.com Date: Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 7:59 PM To: Janice Nichols jan...@centurytel.net I take 80mg a day of Baclofen and still have problems although it REALLY helps me. 20mg 4x a day. Doc is going to keep me at that. So, I thought I would just get used to what it isn't taking care of. Went to CVS this evening and purchased the Fast Acting Therapy Aspercreme Heat Pain Relieving Gel Hopefully this is the right kind. (little nervous since I can't feel heat) But I am so excited to see if this works. I will use it tonight
Re: [TMIC] try this
Guys, this is really encouraging!!I am going to try it too. Janice From: Bridget Skinner Sent: Friday, July 27, 2012 10:07 AM To: tmic-list@eskimo.com ; msersl...@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [TMIC] try this Sorry I twitched and hit the send button too early. Anyway, it didn't bother me at all. I used it knees to toes. Made all the difference in the world. When I have taken my baclofen and still hurt this is the way to go. You would think morphine and norco would take care of these sensations but they take care of other types of pain - not spastisity or nerve pain. Thank you for the tip. It's nice to use something that I can pick up something at the store that really works and I don't need to see a doc first. On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 8:26 AM, Bridget Skinner ibridg...@gmail.com wrote: I believe I didn't send this to the whole group when I replied. And if I did, I apologize for sending it again. I was concerned about using the Aspercreme Heat Pain Relieving Gel because of my inability to feel heat but my husband had a good idea -- just try it on one little spot and if it bothers me than its an easy wipe off. Well it didn't --- I take 80mg a day of Baclofen and still have problems although it REALLY helps me. 20mg 4x a day. Doc is going to keep me at that. So, I thought I would just get used to what it isn't taking care of. Went to CVS this evening and purchased the Fast Acting Therapy Aspercreme Heat Pain Relieving Gel Hopefully this is the right kind. (little nervous since I can't feel heat) But I am so excited to see if this works. I will use it tonight and let y'all know how it worked for me. Please, if anyone has tried it and has problems with topical pain or the inability to feel heat let me know if it makes a difference. THANK YOU Forwarded conversation Subject: [TMIC] try this From: jeff bernier jeffsmokeea...@yahoo.com Date: Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 10:16 AM To: tmic-list@eskimo.com, msersl...@yahoogroups.com for those of you with problems with spastisity heres a trick i learned.i have a baclofen pump and take 5 mg clonipin daily and still get spasms in my legs.i have found that aspercream hot for arthritis works outstanding,i had heard this from another person with ms and it worked. -- From: john snodgrass jcs...@yahoo.com Date: Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 10:28 AM To: tmic-list@eskimo.com tmic-list@eskimo.com i had heard of using hot muscle rub but never tried it but i might now. thanks Jeff -- From: jeff bernier jeffsmokeea...@yahoo.com To: tmic-list@eskimo.com; msersl...@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2012 11:16 AM Subject: [TMIC] try this for those of you with problems with spastisity heres a trick i learned.i have a baclofen pump and take 5 mg clonipin daily and still get spasms in my legs.i have found that aspercream hot for arthritis works outstanding,i had heard this from another person with ms and it worked. -- From: Janice Nichols jan...@centurytel.net Date: Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 10:32 AM To: jeff bernier jeffsmokeea...@yahoo.com, tmic-list@eskimo.com, msersl...@yahoogroups.com Thanks.I take baclofen and it works most every nite, but then I have the occasional problem nite. Will try aspercream. Janice From: jeff bernier Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2012 10:16 AM To: tmic-list@eskimo.com ; msersl...@yahoogroups.com Subject: [TMIC] try this for those of you with problems with spastisity heres a trick i learned.i have a baclofen pump and take 5 mg clonipin daily and still get spasms in my legs.i have found that aspercream hot for arthritis works outstanding,i had heard this from another person with ms and it worked. -- From: em...@telephonelady.com Date: Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 12:43 PM To: jeff bernier jeffsmokeea...@yahoo.com, tmic-list@eskimo.com, msersl...@yahoogroups.com Do you put it directly on the muscles that are spasing? Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -- From: jeff bernier jeffsmokeea...@yahoo.com Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2012 08:16:02 -0700 (PDT) To: tmic-list@eskimo.com; msersl...@yahoogroups.com Subject: [TMIC] try this for those of you with problems with spastisity heres a trick i learned.i have a baclofen pump and take 5 mg clonipin daily and still get spasms in my legs.i have found that aspercream hot for arthritis works outstanding,i had heard this from another person with ms and it worked. -- From: Bridget Skinner ibridg...@gmail.com Date: Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 7:59 PM To: Janice Nichols jan...@centurytel.net I take 80mg a day of Baclofen and still have problems although it REALLY helps me. 20mg 4x a day. Doc
Re: [TMIC] try this
I had a terrible cramp in my shin last night in the middle of the night as a result of my water exercises earlier in the day. I tried this and it worked great! Roger in Kennewick, WA From: Janice Nichols jan...@centurytel.net To: Bridget Skinner ibridg...@gmail.com; tmic-list@eskimo.com; msersl...@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 27, 2012 9:04 AM Subject: Re: [TMIC] try this Guys, this is really encouraging!! I am going to try it too. Janice From: Bridget Skinner Sent: Friday, July 27, 2012 10:07 AM To: tmic-list@eskimo.com ; msersl...@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [TMIC] try this Sorry I twitched and hit the send button too early. Anyway, it didn't bother me at all. I used it knees to toes. Made all the difference in the world. When I have taken my baclofen and still hurt this is the way to go. You would think morphine and norco would take care of these sensations but they take care of other types of pain - not spastisity or nerve pain. Thank you for the tip. It's nice to use something that I can pick up something at the store that really works and I don't need to see a doc first. On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 8:26 AM, Bridget Skinner ibridg...@gmail.com wrote: I believe I didn't send this to the whole group when I replied. And if I did, I apologize for sending it again. I was concerned about using the Aspercreme Heat Pain Relieving Gel because of my inability to feel heat but my husband had a good idea -- just try it on one little spot and if it bothers me than its an easy wipe off. Well it didn't --- I take 80mg a day of Baclofen and still have problems although it REALLY helps me. 20mg 4x a day. Doc is going to keep me at that. So, I thought I would just get used to what it isn't taking care of. Went to CVS this evening and purchased the Fast Acting Therapy Aspercreme Heat Pain Relieving Gel Hopefully this is the right kind. (little nervous since I can't feel heat) But I am so excited to see if this works. I will use it tonight and let y'all know how it worked for me. Please, if anyone has tried it and has problems with topical pain or the inability to feel heat let me know if it makes a difference. THANK YOU Forwarded conversation Subject: [TMIC] try this From: jeff bernier jeffsmokeea...@yahoo.com Date: Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 10:16 AM To: tmic-list@eskimo.com, msersl...@yahoogroups.com for those of you with problems with spastisity heres a trick i learned.i have a baclofen pump and take 5 mg clonipin daily and still get spasms in my legs.i have found that aspercream hot for arthritis works outstanding,i had heard this from another person with ms and it worked. -- From: john snodgrass jcs...@yahoo.com Date: Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 10:28 AM To: tmic-list@eskimo.com tmic-list@eskimo.com i had heard of using hot muscle rub but never tried it but i might now. thanks Jeff From: jeff bernier jeffsmokeea...@yahoo.com To: tmic-list@eskimo.com; msersl...@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2012 11:16 AM Subject: [TMIC] try this for those of you with problems with spastisity heres a trick i learned.i have a baclofen pump and take 5 mg clonipin daily and still get spasms in my legs.i have found that aspercream hot for arthritis works outstanding,i had heard this from another person with ms and it worked. -- From: Janice Nichols jan...@centurytel.net Date: Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 10:32 AM To: jeff bernier jeffsmokeea...@yahoo.com, tmic-list@eskimo.com, msersl...@yahoogroups.com Thanks. I take baclofen and it works most every nite, but then I have the occasional problem nite. Will try aspercream. Janice From: jeff bernier Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2012 10:16 AM To: tmic-list@eskimo.com ; msersl...@yahoogroups.com Subject: [TMIC] try this for those of you with problems with spastisity heres a trick i learned.i have a baclofen pump and take 5 mg clonipin daily and still get spasms in my legs.i have found that aspercream hot for arthritis works outstanding,i had heard this from another person with ms and it worked. -- From: em...@telephonelady.com Date: Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 12:43 PM To: jeff bernier jeffsmokeea...@yahoo.com, tmic-list@eskimo.com, msersl...@yahoogroups.com Do you put it directly on the muscles that are spasing? Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry From: jeff bernier jeffsmokeea...@yahoo.com Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2012 08:16:02 -0700 (PDT) To: tmic-list@eskimo.com; msersl...@yahoogroups.com Subject: [TMIC] try this for those of you with problems with spastisity heres a trick i learned.i have a baclofen pump and take 5 mg clonipin daily and still get spasms in my legs.i have found that aspercream hot for arthritis works outstanding,i had heard this from
Re: [TMIC] try this
this is good news!
and found this out as far as a definition of one of the nice things we suffer
with:
Clonus (from the Greek for violent, confused motion) is a series of
involuntary, rhythmic, muscular contractions and relaxations. Clonus is a sign
of certainneurological conditions, particularly associated with upper motor
neuron lesions involving descending motor pathways, and in many cases is,
accompanied by spasticity (another form of hyperexcitability).[1] Unlike small,
spontaneous twitches known as fasciculations (usually caused by lower motor
neuronpathology), clonus causes large motions that are usually initiated by
a reflex. Studies have shown clonus beat frequency to range from 3- 8 Hz
(Hertz) on average, and may last a few seconds to several minutes depending on
the patient’s condition.[1]
(i called it the jerks)
{º¿º}
~
From: Janice Nichols jan...@centurytel.net
To: Bridget Skinner ibridg...@gmail.com; tmic-list@eskimo.com;
msersl...@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, July 27, 2012 12:04 PM
Subject: Re: [TMIC] try this
Guys, this is really encouraging!! I am
going to try it too.
Janice
From: Bridget Skinner
Sent: Friday, July 27, 2012 10:07 AM
To: tmic-list@eskimo.com ; msersl...@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [TMIC] try this
Sorry
I twitched and hit the send button too early. Anyway, it didn't bother me at
all. I used it knees to toes. Made all the difference in the world. When I have
taken my baclofen and still hurt this is the way to go. You would think
morphine and norco would take care of these sensations but they take care of
other types of pain - not spastisity or nerve pain. Thank you for the tip. It's
nice to use something that I can pick up something at the store that really
works and I don't need to see a doc first.
On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 8:26 AM, Bridget Skinner ibridg...@gmail.com wrote:
I believe I didn't send this to the whole group when I replied. And if I did,
I apologize for sending it again.
I was concerned about using the Aspercreme Heat Pain Relieving Gel because of
my inability to feel heat but my husband had a good idea -- just try it on one
little spot and if it bothers me than its an easy wipe off. Well it didn't
---
I take 80mg a day of Baclofen and still have problems although it REALLY
helps me. 20mg 4x a day. Doc is going to keep me at that. So, I thought I
would just get used to what it isn't taking care of. Went to CVS this evening
and purchased the Fast Acting Therapy Aspercreme Heat Pain Relieving Gel
Hopefully this is the right kind. (little nervous since I can't feel heat) But
I am so excited to see if this works. I will use it tonight and let y'all
know how it worked for me.
Please, if anyone has tried it and has problems with topical pain or the
inability to feel heat let me know if it makes a difference.
THANK YOU
Forwarded conversation
Subject: [TMIC] try this
From: jeff bernier jeffsmokeea...@yahoo.com
Date: Thu, Jul 26,
2012 at 10:16 AM
To: tmic-list@eskimo.com, msersl...@yahoogroups.com
for those of you with problems with spastisity heres a trick i learned.i have
a baclofen pump and take 5 mg clonipin daily and still get spasms in my
legs.i have found that aspercream hot for arthritis works outstanding,i had
heard this from another person with ms and it worked.
--
From: john snodgrass jcs...@yahoo.com
Date: Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at
10:28 AM
To: tmic-list@eskimo.com tmic-list@eskimo.com
i had heard of using hot muscle rub but never tried it but i might now.
thanks Jeff
From: jeff bernier jeffsmokeea...@yahoo.com
To: tmic-list@eskimo.com; msersl...@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2012 11:16 AM
Subject: [TMIC] try this
for those of you with problems with spastisity heres a trick i learned.i have
a baclofen pump and take 5 mg clonipin daily and still get spasms in my
legs.i have found that aspercream hot for arthritis works outstanding,i had
heard this from another person with ms and it worked.
--
From: Janice Nichols jan...@centurytel.net
Date: Thu, Jul 26, 2012
at 10:32 AM
To: jeff bernier jeffsmokeea...@yahoo.com, tmic-list@eskimo.com,
msersl...@yahoogroups.com
Thanks. I take baclofen and it works most every nite, but then I have the
occasional problem nite. Will try aspercream.
Janice
From: jeff bernier
Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2012 10:16 AM
To: tmic-list@eskimo.com ; msersl...@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [TMIC] try this
for those of you with problems with spastisity heres a trick i learned.i have
a baclofen pump and take 5 mg clonipin daily and still get spasms in my
legs.i have found that aspercream hot for arthritis works outstanding,i had
heard this from another person with ms and it worked.
--
From: em...@telephonelady.com
Date: Thu
Re: [TMIC] try this
Wow, you just answered so many of my questions. I have a neurologist
appointment that took a month to get, on August 1. I have been so worried
and sometimes afraid to go to sleep because usually when these twitches, or
my head jerking or whatever is going on happens when I wake up. Whether in
the middle of the night or in the morning but is usually MUCH worse if I
wake up in the middle of the night. I have even ended up in the ER when I
woke from a nap and had what my husband called convulsions. I could go on
and on but I know we are on a whole other topic. But, THANK
YOU...didn't know what all that was. Scary.
On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 2:31 PM, john snodgrass jcs...@yahoo.com wrote:
this is good news!
and found this out as far as a definition of one of the nice things we
suffer with:
*Clonus* (from the Greek for violent, confused motion) is a series of
involuntary, rhythmic http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhythmic, muscular
contractions http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muscular_contraction and
relaxations. Clonus is a sign of
certainneurologicalhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neurological conditions,
particularly associated with upper motor
neuronhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Upper_motor_neuron
lesions http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lesion involving descending motor
pathways, and in many cases is, accompanied by
spasticityhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spasticity (another
form of hyperexcitability http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperexcitability
).[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clonus#cite_note-Reference_2-0 Unlike
small, spontaneous twitches known as
fasciculationshttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fasciculation (usually
caused by lower motor
neuronhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lower_motor_neuronpathology),
clonus causes large motions that are usually initiated by a
reflexhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reflex.
Studies have shown clonus beat
frequencyhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frequency to
range from 3- 8 Hz (Hertz http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hertz) on
average, and may last a few seconds to several minutes depending on the
patient’s
condition.[1]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clonus#cite_note-Reference_2-0
(i called it the jerks)
{º¿º}
~
--
*From:* Janice Nichols jan...@centurytel.net
*To:* Bridget Skinner ibridg...@gmail.com; tmic-list@eskimo.com;
msersl...@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Friday, July 27, 2012 12:04 PM
*Subject:* Re: [TMIC] try this
Guys, this is really encouraging!!I am going to try it too.
Janice
*From:* Bridget Skinner ibridg...@gmail.com
*Sent:* Friday, July 27, 2012 10:07 AM
*To:* tmic-list@eskimo.com ; msersl...@yahoogroups.com
*Subject:* Re: [TMIC] try this
*Sorry I twitched and hit the send button too early. Anyway, it didn't
bother me at all. I used it knees to toes. Made all the difference in the
world. When I have taken my baclofen and still hurt this is the way to go.
You would think morphine and norco would take care of these sensations but
they take care of other types of pain - not spastisity or nerve pain. Thank
you for the tip. It's nice to use something that I can pick up something at
the store that really works and I don't need to see a doc first.
*
On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 8:26 AM, Bridget Skinner ibridg...@gmail.comwrote:
*I believe I didn't send this to the whole group when I replied. And if I
did, I apologize for sending it again. *
*I was concerned about using the Aspercreme Heat Pain Relieving Gel
because of my inability to feel heat but my husband had a good idea -- just
try it on one little spot and if it bothers me than its an easy wipe off.
Well it didn't *
---
I take 80mg a day of Baclofen and still have problems although it REALLY
helps me. 20mg 4x a day. Doc is going to keep me at that. So, I thought I
would just get used to what it isn't taking care of. Went to CVS this
evening and purchased the Fast Acting Therapy Aspercreme Heat Pain
Relieving Gel Hopefully this is the right kind. (little nervous since I
can't feel heat) But I am so excited to see if this works. I will use it
tonight and let y'all know how it worked for me.
Please, if anyone has tried it and has problems with topical pain or the
inability to feel heat let me know if it makes a difference.
THANK YOU
Forwarded conversation
Subject: *[TMIC] try this*
From: *jeff bernier* jeffsmokeea...@yahoo.com
Date: Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 10:16 AM
To: tmic-list@eskimo.com, msersl...@yahoogroups.com
for those of you with problems with spastisity heres a trick i
learned.i have a baclofen pump and take 5 mg clonipin daily and still get
spasms in my legs.i have found that aspercream hot for arthritis works
outstanding,i had heard this from another person with ms and it worked.
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From: *john snodgrass* jcs...@yahoo.com
Date: Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 10:28 AM
To: tmic-list@eskimo.com tmic-list@eskimo.com
i had heard of using
[TMIC] try this
for those of you with problems with spastisity heres a trick i learned.i have a baclofen pump and take 5 mg clonipin daily and still get spasms in my legs.i have found that aspercream hot for arthritis works outstanding,i had heard this from another person with ms and it worked.
Re: [TMIC] try this
i had heard of using hot muscle rub but never tried it but i might now. thanks Jeff From: jeff bernier jeffsmokeea...@yahoo.com To: tmic-list@eskimo.com; msersl...@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2012 11:16 AM Subject: [TMIC] try this for those of you with problems with spastisity heres a trick i learned.i have a baclofen pump and take 5 mg clonipin daily and still get spasms in my legs.i have found that aspercream hot for arthritis works outstanding,i had heard this from another person with ms and it worked.
Re: [TMIC] try this
Thanks.I take baclofen and it works most every nite, but then I have the occasional problem nite. Will try aspercream. Janice From: jeff bernier Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2012 10:16 AM To: tmic-list@eskimo.com ; msersl...@yahoogroups.com Subject: [TMIC] try this for those of you with problems with spastisity heres a trick i learned.i have a baclofen pump and take 5 mg clonipin daily and still get spasms in my legs.i have found that aspercream hot for arthritis works outstanding,i had heard this from another person with ms and it worked.
Re: [TMIC] try this
Do you put it directly on the muscles that are spasing? Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: jeff bernier jeffsmokeea...@yahoo.com Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2012 08:16:02 To: tmic-list@eskimo.com; msersl...@yahoogroups.com Subject: [TMIC] try this for those of you with problems with spastisity heres a trick i learned.i have a baclofen pump and take 5 mg clonipin daily and still get spasms in my legs.i have found that aspercream hot for arthritis works outstanding,i had heard this from another person with ms and it worked.
[TMIC] try it this way
- Original Message - From: Gary Thomas To: john snodgrass ; transverse myelitis Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 9:58 PM Subject: Re: [TMIC] 35 Things you probably don't know about TM John. This is a good list. I would like to have it to copy without re-typing it . It came out (at least in my email) scrunched together. Is there a way to resend it in a better form. Thanks. Gary - Original Message - From: john snodgrass To: transverse myelitis Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 10:47 PM Subject: [TMIC] 35 Things you probably don't know about TM seen this on facebook and didnt know if it was passed to this group or not. A list to share with Dr's and family to help inform them about our condition. john --- 35 Things you probably don't know about TM 1. It is a cousin disorder to Multiple Sclerosis. http://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/neurology_neurosurgery/specialty_areas/project_restore/conditions/ 2. Fairly rare disorder, only 2-5 people per million get it. 3. Approx. 1400 new cases a year in the U.S. http://www.ninds.nih.gov/disorders/transversemyelitis/detail_transversemyelitis.htm 4. Roughly 33,000 people with TM in U.S. http://www.ninds.nih.gov/disorders/transversemyelitis/detail_transversemyelitis.htm 5. Transverse myelitis occurs in adults and children, in both genders, and in all races. http://www.ninds.nih.gov/disorders/transversemyelitis/detail_transversemyelitis.htm 6. Can be Acute (happening within hours) or Subacute (happening within days or weeks) 7. The inflammation that causes such extensive damage to nerve fibers of the spinal cord may result from viral infections, abnormal immune reactions, or insufficient blood flow through the blood vessels located in the spinal cord. Transverse myelitis also may occur as a complication of syphilis, measles, Lyme disease, and some vaccinations, including those for chickenpox and rabies. 8. Can be Idiopathic (no known cause) 9. Typically a one time occurrence but there are some that have recurrent TM. 10. 10% or better possibility of developing Multiple Sclerosis but the possibility is fairly low if there is a normal brain MRI at TM onset...http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18080852 11.Most symptoms of TM are identical to MS 12.Prevailing difference between TM and MS is that lesions are on spinal nerve in TM and on Brain in MS. 13.Transverse myelitis is a neurological disorder caused by inflammation across both sides of one level, or segment, of the spinal cord. This damage causes nervous system scars that interrupt communications between the nerves in the spinal cord and the rest of the body. 14. The inflammation and lesion created, is caused by the bodies own immune system attacking the myelin coating of the spinal nerve. 15.The segment of the spinal cord at which the damage occurs determines which parts of the body are affected. Nerves in the cervical (neck) region control signals to the neck, arms, hands, and muscles of breathing (the diaphragm). Nerves in the thoracic (upper back) region relay signals to the torso and some parts of the arms. Nerves at the lumbar (mid-back) level control signals to the hips and legs. Finally, sacral nerves, located within the lowest segment of the spinal cord, relay signals to the groin, toes, and some parts of the legs. Damage at one segment will affect function at that segment and segments below it. In patients with transverse myelitis, demyelination usually occurs at the thoracic level, causing problems with leg movement and bowel and bladder control, which require signals from the lower segments of the spinal cord. http://www.ninds.nih.gov/disorders/transversemyelitis/detail_transversemyelitis.htm 16.About one-third of people affected with transverse myelitis experience good or full recovery from their symptoms; they regain the ability to walk normally and experience minimal urinary or bowel effects and paresthesias. Another one-third show only fair recovery and are left with significant deficits such as spastic gait, sensory dysfunction, and prominent urinary urgency or incontinence. The remaining one-third show no recovery at all, remaining wheelchair-bound or bedridden with marked dependence on others for basic functions of daily living. http://www.ninds.nih.gov/disorders/transversemyelitis/detail_transversemyelitis.htm 17. Four classic features of transverse myelitis emerge: (1) weakness of the legs and arms, (2) pain, (3) sensory alteration, and (4) bowel and bladder dysfunction. http://www.ninds.nih.gov/disorders/transversemyelitis/detail_transversemyelitis.htm 18. Pain is the primary presenting symptom of transverse myelitis in approximately one-third to one-half of all patients. The pain may be localized in the lower back or may consist of sharp, shooting sensations that radiate down the legs or arms or around the torso.
