Re: RE: DO NOT REPLY [Bug 33339] - Shutdown script down not work
Ben, I made the comments I did largely because of the attitude shown in the initial responses I received upon reporting the bug. Responses such as the following made me beleive no-one on the -dev list actually cared about fixing the problem; - This is always because your code or libraries used by it start and don't terminate non-daemon threads (and then closing the bug as invalid) - which is incorrect as I've now prooved. - Well, I just tested it, and wasted my time ;) (and then closing the bug as invalid) - after testing on completely the wrong platform. - two people (myself being the second) have confirmed that this issue is not reproducible - again incorrect, as you mentioned at least one other person reproduced the issue and I have reproduced on two seperate machines. - don't write statements like which seems to show there are a lot of threads waiting on an object. This doesn't make any sense, and makes the credibility of the report go down. - The original statement is perfectly valid, has been used by many people in many discussions, and originates from Suns own documentation and guidelines. - I just tested with Ubuntu Hoary and Sun JRE 1.5.0_01. Both startup.sh and shutdown.sh work as expected, and Tomcat runs great. - Wrong platform and JDK again. It wasn't until you became involved that there appeared to be any sign of anyone taking this issue seriously. As I hope you can understand I was becomming increasingly frustrated and therefore focused on trying to show how it could be reproduced rather than providing fuel for what seemed to be the prevalent attitude of Doesn't work on my box, not interested. I have since made a post with what I beleive to be potential fixes to resolve the problem. Regards, Al. Ben Souther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 03.02.2005, 13:14:13: Al, I read it thoroughly. Remy Maucharat didn't mention the platform he had tested on until the 7th post and by then Yoav Shapira had already stated that he tested it as well (with no mention of the platform). They also agreed that the case would be re-opened if you could help them to reproduce the problem. My criticism is that you mentioned a developer from the users list who also claimed to have problems shutting down Tocmat which would seem to bolster your case -- except that he never mentioned whether or not he was starting his own threads in his application. You did not, however, mention that I tested on the exact same distribution that you're having problems on with a fresh download of TC and it ran fine. If you're serious about getting to the root of the problem, which I think you are, it's important that all facts are on the table -- even the ones that don't support your argument. -Ben On Thu, 2005-02-03 at 01:43, Al Sutton wrote: Ben, Please re-read my email. It is discussing the initial response I received from the -dev list, and then addressing the issue raised about it being distribution specific. My critisism was that the bug was initially closed when the only attempt to re-produce it I was made aware of was made on a completely different platform and that it initially appeared that the -dev list did not have developers that were willing to investigate the problem. Regards, Al. -Original Message- From: Ben Souther [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 02 February 2005 22:25 To: Tomcat Developers List Subject: RE: DO NOT REPLY [Bug 9] - Shutdown script down not work On Wed, 2005-02-02 at 16:54, Al Sutton wrote: In answer to your points; on 3) I'm not asking for it tested on all distros, just those where issues have arisen. If no-one has FC2 installed then thats something the group should know about and should be able to say Sorry, no-one has FC2, rather than Closed bug, doesn't work on [insert name of totally different platform here]. The users mail list has a report from Drew Jorgenson if it not working on RHAS 3, and I can confirm I've also seen the behaviour on SLES8 (i.e. a non-redhat product), so I don't think it's distribution specific. Just for the record, I tested on FC2 and posted the shell session on the users list. You responded to my email before writing this message. I've also stated that I'm willing to upgrade both the kernel and the JDK to test under an environment that is closer to yours. Please don't omit these details when when writing to either list. At the very least, it's dishonest, at worst it's misleading and could cause people to waste time repeating things that have already been done. -Ben - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED
The FIX - Shutdown not working under SLES8 and FC2
After some playing around I think I've tracked down what the fix is, and I'd like to throw an idea out as to what could be happening. First the fix. The fix is to explicitly state in the AJP13 connector that the connector should ONLY bind to the loopback address (i.e. add address=127.0.0.1). Maybe this should be made the default because; a) it's a fix to the issue. and b) it also enhances security. Those people who are using AJP13 between machines should have the knowlege to re-configure the connector to allow connections between different machines. Now the suggestion as to why this is happening. My machine is behind a firewall, and therefore has non-routable IP addresses (192.168.x.x). If you lookup the full hostname (a.b.c.d) on the machine the hosts file resolves it to the private IP, if you look it up using DNS it resolves to the public IP address of the firewall. If you lookup the machine name only (a) from on the machine or anywhere else it resolves via DNS to the public IP of the firewall. From what I can tell the AJP13 connector looks up the hostname only, (which resolves it to the public IP address), then tries to connect to the AJP13 port on the public IP address, and because the firewall blocks this traffic, does not connect, and then gives up. To back this up I have put the hostname on it's own into the hosts file (i.e. a resolves to the private IP), and everything worked again. Before everyone shouts you've got a strange config, it's your problem, I'd like to re-iterate that this issue can be avoided in many ways, and my personal beleif is that the order of preference of fixes would be; 1) Add the address=127.0.0.1 to the default server.xml (which also has the side effect of increasing security). 2) If no address is specified then make the shutdown system start by trying to connect to localhost as opposed to what seems to be the current behaviour of attempting to resolve to an external address first. 3) Require everyone to have the short hostname configured to resolve to their local IP. The reasons for this ordering is that 1 is the least effort by the fewest people, 2 is more effort but by a small group, 3 has a potential impact on all users and no matter where you document it will still be missed by those who beleive in unpack and run. Regards, Al. Al Sutton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 03.02.2005, 07:58:16: Ben, Thanks for this. I'm not using any settings in JAVA_OPTS as shown below; [EMAIL PROTECTED] al]$ env | grep -i JAVA JRE_HOME=/usr/java/jdk1.4/jre PATH=/usr/java/jdk1.4/bin:/home/al/utils/apache-ant-1.6.2/bin:/usr/kerberos/ bin:/usr/local/bin:/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin JAVA_HOME=/usr/java/jdk1.4 [EMAIL PROTECTED] al]$ I've tried this on two machines, one an Athlon XP 2400+ running FC2, and the other a Dual Xeon 2.8 GHz running SLES 8, both showed the same problem, so I'm pretty sure it's not hardware. The machines are also geographically seperated and do not operate on the network (ones on my LAN at home, the others on a LAN at work), so I'm pretty sure it's not related to the environment external to the machine. I'm going to upgrade to _07 and get the latest kernel and try again, as currently the only difference seems to be that your execting startup and shutdown from within the bin directory and I'm executing it from the top level (i.e. doing bin/startup.sh and bin/shutdown.sh). Thanks again, Al. -Original Message- From: Ben Souther [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 02 February 2005 23:32 To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Shutdown not working under SLES8 and FC2 On Wed, 2005-02-02 at 17:11, Ben Souther wrote: On Wed, 2005-02-02 at 16:43, Al Sutton wrote: Hmmm The latest updates gives me; Linux host 2.6.10-1.9_FC2 #1 Thu Jan 13 17:54:57 EST 2005 i686 athlon i386 GNU/Linux and I'm on JDK 1.4.2_06 as opposed to _05. Would it be possible for you to upgrade?, I'd like to have the exact same environment, but please don't put yourself out or risk a critical environment. OK, here you go. It turns out that I did have _06 on this machine. I also have 2.6.10-1.9_FC2 (which is no longer the latest BTW ;)). Once again, I started and stopped without a problem. Here is the screen dump: [EMAIL PROTECTED] bin]$ uname -a Linux bsouther 2.6.10-1.9_FC2 #1 Thu Jan 13 17:54:57 EST 2005 i686 athlon i386 GNU/Linux [EMAIL PROTECTED] bin]$ export JAVA_HOME=/usr/local/j2sdk1.4.2_06 [EMAIL PROTECTED] bin]$ ./startup.sh Using CATALINA_BASE: /home/bsouther/tc_test/jakarta-tomcat-5.5.7 Using CATALINA_HOME: /home/bsouther/tc_test/jakarta-tomcat-5.5.7 Using CATALINA_TMPDIR: /home/bsouther/tc_test/jakarta-tomcat-5.5.7/temp Using JRE_HOME: /usr/local/j2sdk1.4.2_06 [EMAIL PROTECTED] bin]$ ./shutdown.sh Using CATALINA_BASE: /home/bsouther/tc_test/jakarta-tomcat-5.5.7 Using CATALINA_HOME: /home
Re: DO NOT REPLY [Bug 33339] - Shutdown script down not work
A few points; 1) This bug is also on SuSE Enterprise Server 8 as welll as FC2. 2) The sentance which seems to show there are a lot of threads waiting on an object does make sense if you've delt with threaded programming and strack traces before. All of the threads with Object.wait() listed at the top are held in the wait() method of an object (i.e. the thread is waiting on an object). This is a term which comes from Suns own JavaDoc for the Object class and can be seen at http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.3/docs/api/java/lang/Object.html. Although a number of the threads are daemon threads, and thus don't need to exit before the JVM exits, it's usually safe programming to allow the thread to exit gracefully to ensure the correct release of any resources. 3) Cygwin is definatley NOT a good platform for testing Linux bugs on. Cygwin is a layer that converts Unix calls into their Windows equivalents, but it does not have Linux underneath and therefore does not represent the threading, networking, and scheduling characteristics of a Linux machine. 4) Do you want to tell the Fedora guys that the Tomcat developers official view of Fedora Core 2 is that its' a crappy distro? 5) Do you expect me to re-install my system just to get Tomcat working?, It's easier to replace Tomcat with Jetty than it would be to resintall my machine with one of the distros that you don't consider crappy (mind you I would have thought Novell would be interested to hear it if you want to call SLES 8 crappy as well). Now I'd like to help resolve this, but at the moment all I'm seeing is a wall of not interesting, can't be bothered, lets' mark it as invalid because I can't reproduce on my own personal setup. Which kinda worries me about how many other bugs have been treated in this manner and the bug reporters just gave up hope of getting things fixed. Regards, Al. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 02.02.2005, 12:15:55: DO NOT REPLY TO THIS EMAIL, BUT PLEASE POST YOUR BUG· RELATED COMMENTS THROUGH THE WEB INTERFACE AVAILABLE AT . ANY REPLY MADE TO THIS MESSAGE WILL NOT BE COLLECTED AND· INSERTED IN THE BUG DATABASE. http://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=9 [EMAIL PROTECTED] changed: What|Removed |Added Status|REOPENED|RESOLVED Resolution||INVALID --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2005-02-02 12:15 --- My post to this bug got lost somehow. The code indicates that shutdown of the JK connector is failing in the unlock accept process. This code has been there unchanged (and identical) for years in both JK and HTTP, and hasn't caused any problems. If you're not using JK, you can try disabling it. BTW, don't write statements like which seems to show there are a lot of threads waiting on an object. This doesn't make any sense, and makes the credibility of the report go down. Stick to reproduceable facts if you are not aware of implementation details. The only thread which matters here is: main prio=1 tid=0x0805bda8 nid=0x33b6 runnable [bfffc000..bfffd618] at java.net.PlainSocketImpl.socketConnect(Native Method) at java.net.PlainSocketImpl.doConnect(PlainSocketImpl.java:305) - locked (a java.net.PlainSocketImpl) at java.net.PlainSocketImpl.connectToAddress(PlainSocketImpl.java:171) at java.net.PlainSocketImpl.connect(PlainSocketImpl.java:158) at java.net.Socket.connect(Socket.java:452) at java.net.Socket.connect(Socket.java:402) at java.net.Socket.(Socket.java:309) at java.net.Socket.(Socket.java:153) at org.apache.jk.common.ChannelSocket.unLockSocket (ChannelSocket.java:460) at org.apache.jk.common.ChannelSocket.pause(ChannelSocket.java:272) - locked (a org.apache.jk.common.ChannelSocket) at org.apache.jk.server.JkMain.pause(JkMain.java:677) at org.apache.jk.server.JkCoyoteHandler.pause(JkCoyoteHandler.java:208) at org.apache.catalina.connector.Connector.pause(Connector.java:933) at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardService.stop (StandardService.java:491) - locked (a [Lorg.apache.catalina.connector.Connector;) at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardServer.stop (StandardServer.java:717) at org.apache.catalina.startup.Catalina.stop(Catalina.java:586) at org.apache.catalina.startup.Catalina.start(Catalina.java:561) at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method) at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke (NativeMethodAccessorImpl.java:39) at sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke (DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.java:25) at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:324) at org.apache.catalina.startup.Bootstrap.start(Bootstrap.java:271
Re: Re: DO NOT REPLY [Bug 33339] - Shutdown script down not work
Nice to know you care about quality so much. Remy Maucherat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 02.02.2005, 12:17:55: Al Sutton wrote: So let me get this right, just because you can't reproduce it on your system you're not willing to leave it open for others to check, despite the fact you haven't, as yet, told me if your using the same JDK, Linux environment, and you've not waiting for others to comment. Guess the easiest way to get round this is to move to Jetty. Bye then ;) Rémy - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I've been testing all those versions... there seems to be a couple issues I have seen with each... let me test 4.1.5 and I'll let you know how it goes... t [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The tomcat nightly builds are broken since 5/30. This is the last day before no good downloadable builds will be available. http://jakarta.apache.org/builds/jakarta-tomcat-4.0/ The plan is to rely on Gump for the nightlies. There were some issues, which got fixed. Now, we may have to wait a bit for a build to succeed ;-) My plan is to release a new Tomcat 4.1.5 milestone today or tomorrow. Remy -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hello!
My party... It was absolutely amazing!
I have attached my web page with new photos!
If you can please make color prints of my photos. Thanks!
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new photos from my party!
Hello!
My party... It was absolutely amazing!
I have attached my web page with new photos!
If you can please make color prints of my photos. Thanks!
begin 666 www.myparty.yahoo.com
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Hello!
My party... It was absolutely amazing!
I have attached my web page with new photos!
If you can please make color prints of my photos. Thanks!
begin 666 www.myparty.yahoo.com
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Stress Test problems with 3.2.1
Hello, I have tc 3.2.1 installed on w2k server with iis5, sun hotspot 2.0 server mode and jdk 1.3. I have been running this implementation successfully for the past several months with no problems. I decided to perform a stress test to see how tc would handle it. 1. First test. 100 concurrent connections, each submitting a request to /examples/jsp/forward.jsp every 10 seconds. This equated to 11 requests per second. I ran this test for 24 hours. Results were perfect, no errors. 2. Second test. same test as above with 200 concurrent connections. This equated to 18 requests per second. Ran for 5 minutes. This time I received errors on 1% of the requests -- "500 - Internal Server Error". I checked the Tomcat log and I am getting NullPointerExceptions from the jsp code followed by an ArrayIndexOutOfBoundsException at tomcat.util.SimplePool.put(SimplePool.java:112). The redirect dll reports a few problems of not being able to handle the tc response. I suspect tc could not deliver a response because of the internal errors. Not sure. I go back to test 1 and everything is back to perfect. Go to test 2 again and same errors. As I lowered the number of requests per second, it gets better. It did not matter if I had 300 concurrent connections as long as the request per second was around 11, everything worked fine. Does anyone know what's up here? Thanks Mike [EMAIL PROTECTED]
