RE: And in case I don't see you, good afternoon, good evening and good bye...

2001-11-02 Thread GOMEZ Henri

If Sun fire such talentuous developper, shouldn't we
be worried about the Company Situation ? 

It's the second people from Sun working on Tomcat's,
after Costin, who leave the company. 

May be it's better for OpenSource to have people like
them outside big company and sus avoiding political 
problems.

All in one, Pier stay on OSS and Apache and that's 
important point...


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-Original Message-
From: Pier Fumagalli [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 1:23 AM
To: Pier Fumagalli
Subject: And in case I don't see you, good afternoon, good evening and
good bye...


One year, three months and five days. It definitely didn't 
last long, or not
as long as I would have expected, or as long as I would have 
liked it. What?
Oh, I believe you noticed it already: effective today I'm no 
longer a Sun
Microsystems employee...

Well folks, it has been a long and wild ride (quoting a friend 
of mine who
was in more or less the same position as I am right now some 
months ago),
but as all rides, you pay your toll, you get some fun, and 
then, the ride is
over... I believe you all heard about that Sun Microsystems 
was having its
first roll of layoffs ever, and from what I was told, my 
situation (working
in London, employed in Dublin, and with my team in Santa 
Clara) was in a
very dangerous position. And when managers had to come off 
with a name for
my team, well, my name was an easy pick :)

No hard feelings though. I still think that Sun is a great 
place to work at,
most of my heroes are all still there (sigh!) from James 
Gosling to Joshua
Bloch (some others have gone) and a bunch of friends are still working
there. It's a good company, overall, maybe sometimes it takes 
them some time
to understand how open source works (not that I know much 
about it), but
most of the times, at the end, they get it right... And I 
mean, who never
made a mistake or two in their lives?

I just think that the projects I was dealing with (native and 
web-server
integration with Tomcat) were not enough to justify my 
displaced situation
(it's somehow weird when you have to attend to a phone meeting 
at 11 PM! :)
but I was prepared, I smelled it from quite some time, and I got my
confirmation today.

What does it mean for me? Well, somehow, it means a lot. It 
means that all
you folks who were waiting for my return in California will 
have to wait for
quite some time now, more than the planned six months, I don't have the
strength at the moment to chase another visa, to start it all 
over again.
I'll settle down here in London (it's a nice town when it 
doesn't rain), I
have a good number of friends, clubs are nice, and my cats are 
getting used
to the upcoming cold winter. But no more of sunny California 
for quite a
long time, no more rides on my brand new Suzuki GSX-1300R on 
Highway 1, no
more skiing in Tahoe, no more cheap ADSL and large bandwidth 
access. Oh,
well, I'll survive.

What does that mean in terms of my involvement with the Apache Software
Foundation, the Jakarta Project, Tomcat, and so on? Nothing. Nothing
changes, I've been around here for a reasonable amount of 
years now, and I
am planning to stick around for a lot more to come. The only 
thing changing
is that I got back my independence, I got back my status of 
open source
developer for real, and if someone asks me that one of the 
projects I'm
working on doesn't run on my favorite platform (Windows), I 
can just say,
go ahead, fix it yourself, I don't care.

How I see it? I traded my independence as an open source 
developer with my
dream of living in a place I love, I traded my salary for a 
lump of more
freedom. The only thing I somehow regret, is that this time I 
didn't have
the power of choice, but I accept it, and frankly, I'm not sad 
about what
happened...

So, from now on, Pier is me. It means that what I think, what 
I say or what
I do is because of some strange plot at Sun. My wickedness is 
only mine, and
it's going to be like that for quite some time (get ready :)...

And in case I don't see you, good afternoon, good evening and 
good bye...

Pier (and his two independent cats: Sharon and Becky)


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RE: And in case I don't see you, good afternoon, good evening and good bye...

2001-11-02 Thread Sam Ruby

Henri Gomez wrote:

 May be it's better for OpenSource to have people like
 them outside big company and sus avoiding political
 problems.

Pier worked for IBM.  Pier worked for Exoffice.  Pier worked for Sun.

IMHO, it is best for OpenSource to view Pier based on the code he has
contributed and how he fits into the community, and not based on who he
accepts a pay check from this week.

- Sam Ruby


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Re: And in case I don't see you, good afternoon, good evening and good bye...

2001-11-01 Thread Bojan Smojver

Quoting Pier Fumagalli [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 And in case I don't see you, good afternoon, good evening and good
 bye...

Pier, my apologies for the Sun related e-mail on the list today. If I only knew,
I would never have sent it.

:-((

I wish you all the best in your future undertakings and I really hope you'll
stick around Jakarta because I'm sure your work is appreciated by all.

Bojan

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