how to place System.out.println messages in a different file?

2002-03-22 Thread Leila Lappin

Hello all,

I'm porting an application that I developed and tested using JRun.  I'm not able to 
see my diagnostics messages in the log file that's managed and produced by the Logger. 
 Could someone please help me get my messages?

thanks in advance
Leila



how to redirect System.out, or a relevant link please

2002-03-22 Thread Leila Lappin

Hello everyone,

Could someone please send me a link to find information on redirecting system.out and 
system.err.  I've been to http://www.jguru.com/faq/view.jsp?EID=302980 they suggested 
reading the relevant discussion on the archived mailing list 
http://mikal.org/interests/java/tomcat/archive/search?start=60search=how+to+redirect 
).  I'm still reading through and haven't found the answer.

I've setup Logger tag in server.xml and it points to 
org.apache.catalina.logger.FileLogger. I get all messages generated by tomcat but 
nothing from my own diagnostics.  
   
I'm using tomcat-4.0.2 on Redhat 7.2.

thanks in advance for your help.
Leila



Re: how to redirect System.out, or a relevant link please

2002-03-22 Thread Leila Lappin

Thanks ,
I see it in catalina.out.

Not to whine about it but I couldn't find any easy reference to this little
answer anywhere in the documentation.

thanks again
Leila


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you want to see the trace of your System.out.print? nothing in catalina.out?

CF



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 Objet : how to redirect System.out, or a relevant link please


 Hello everyone,

 Could someone please send me a link to find information on
 redirecting system.out and system.err.  I've been to
 http://www.jguru.com/faq/view.jsp?EID=302980 they suggested
 reading the relevant discussion on the archived mailing list
 http://mikal.org/interests/java/tomcat/archive/search?start=60
 search=how+to+redirect ).  I'm still reading through and
 haven't found the answer.

 I've setup Logger tag in server.xml and it points to
 org.apache.catalina.logger.FileLogger. I get all messages
 generated by tomcat but nothing from my own diagnostics.

 I'm using tomcat-4.0.2 on Redhat 7.2.

 thanks in advance for your help.
 Leila


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Any links for JavaScript issues with Tomcat and netscape 6.2?

2002-03-22 Thread Leila Lappin

Hello all,

I made a little progress in my efforts to port my application from NT to tomcat but 
now I'm really worried.  

My first JavaScript in the application doesn't work the way it used to.  I know it 
sounds strange but the application works on NT/JRun with both iexplorer and Netscape 
6.2.  

my platform is tomcat 4.0.3, Redhat Linux 7.2 and j2sdk1.4.0 and I'm using Netscape 6.2

I would really appreciate if someone could point me towards a good online source for 
this type of issues.

thanks Leila 



Re: Any links for JavaScript issues with Tomcat and netscape 6.2?

2002-03-22 Thread Leila Lappin

I was just asking if anyone knows of any links for that set of issues.


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To: Tomcat Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 9:46 AM
Subject: Re: Any links for JavaScript issues with Tomcat and netscape 6.2?


 Leila,

 If you JavaScript does not work, you need to contact someone who focuses
in
 that area, i.e. a different list.  I don't mean to be rude, but whether or
 not JavaScript works obviously has nothing really to do with the server.

 Micael

 At 12:39 PM 3/22/02 -0800, you wrote:
 Hello all,
 
 I made a little progress in my efforts to port my application from NT to
 tomcat but now I'm really worried.
 
 My first JavaScript in the application doesn't work the way it used to.
I
 know it sounds strange but the application works on NT/JRun with both
 iexplorer and Netscape 6.2.
 
 my platform is tomcat 4.0.3, Redhat Linux 7.2 and j2sdk1.4.0 and I'm
using
 Netscape 6.2
 
 I would really appreciate if someone could point me towards a good online
 source for this type of issues.
 
 thanks Leila



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tomcat does not support JavaScript

2002-03-22 Thread Leila Lappin

Hi all,

I found this interesting bit of information on 
http://www.jguru.com/forums/view.jsp?EID=398307.  This may be useful for web 
application developers who're planning to use tomcat as their application server.

Leila




Re: tomcat does not support JavaScript

2002-03-22 Thread Leila Lappin

I posted the information to help developers who're thinking of using tomcat
as the application server for their web application with dynamic content.
I'm not promoting use of javascript for popup windows.  I hope this clears
the meaning of my message.


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Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 2:54 PM
Subject: RE: tomcat does not support JavaScript


 That link isn't working, but I believe you. It's what the article in the
 original post said, anyway. And if Doug is reading this, I don't like your
 pop-ups!
 -Peace,
 Robert

 -Original Message-
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 Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 11:50 PM
 To: Tomcat Users List
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: tomcat does not support JavaScript


 No, sorry, it kinda p-o'd me too I mean to tell them about that...
 the point I was trying to make, without the pop-ups, would be the output
 it produces on a site, like www.jspwarrior.com (promise, no pop-ups)
 This is produced by JSP. I apologize, tell Doug what you think about his
 stupid pop ups. [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Sorry Again..

 Robert Douglass wrote:

 Why do you send us crap like this link? Do you really think people
 appreciate javascripts that open 30,000 windows?
 
 -Original Message-
 From: todd tredeau [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 11:35 PM
 To: Tomcat Users List
 Subject: Re: tomcat does not support JavaScript
 
 
 But you can make javascript with it... http://www.link-tool.com
 
 
 todd
 http://www.wiserlabz.com
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 Leila Lappin wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 I found this interesting bit of information on
 
 http://www.jguru.com/forums/view.jsp?EID=398307.  This may be useful for
 web
 application developers who're planning to use tomcat as their application
 server.
 
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Re: How do I unsubscribe?

2002-03-22 Thread Leila Lappin

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Re: How do I unsubscribe?

2002-03-22 Thread Leila Lappin

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  You have to respond to a message that will request a confirmation from
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 OK then how do I get that message if sending a message to
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Re: j2sdk1.4 compilation errors, any good online source for info?

2002-03-21 Thread Leila Lappin

thanks
I put all the listed jars in my classpath and it worked.

thanks again.


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Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 10:47 PM
Subject: Re: j2sdk1.4 compilation errors, any good online source for info?


 All the standard classes are in rt.jar, Leil.  The rt is for runtime.

 At 09:25 PM 3/20/02 -0800, you wrote:
 Hi Michael,
 
 Thanks for the answer, I'm trying to setup my CLASSPATH to find the jar
file
 that contains the definition for String.  My problem is that I can't find
 it!!
 
 It used to be in j2ee.jar in j2skee-1_3_01.
 
 My name is Leila and it's Persian.
 
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 From: Micael Padraig Og mac Grene [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Tomcat Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 6:05 PM
 Subject: Re: j2sdk1.4 compilation errors, any good online source for
info?
 
 
   Leil,
  
   If you just want to compile, you can set the command line at the
   jdk1.4/bin/ (where javac is)and then enter javac
   /usr/local/myapp/MyClass.java or wherever the class is.  But, what
you
   really need to do is to set up your CLASSPATH environmental variables
in
   /etc/profile to the appropriate locations to find javac, java, your
   classes, etc.  There is no problem with RH 7.2 and j2k1.4.  I use
that.
  
   Hope this is helpful.
  
   Micael
  
   What sort of name is Leil?  Never seen that before.  Looks cool!
  
  
  
   At 08:52 PM 3/20/02 -0800, you wrote:
   Could someone please suggest a good online source for getting some
detail
   information on compilation errors with J2sdk1.4.  I am trying to port
an
   application that has been compiled and tested on NT with
j2sdkee-1_3_01
   libraries.  The new system RH7.2 using the new j2sk1.4 whines about
not
   finding String class definition with a [JLS 8] stuck to the end of
the
   message.
   
   I'm using javac (haven't the time to learn forte) from command line
and
   have set my classpath to
   see  j2sk1.4/lib/tools.jar  and  j2sdk1.4/jre/lib/jsse.jar
   
   thanks in advance for any help and suggestions
   
   Leil
  
  
  
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compile.classpath value?

2002-03-20 Thread Leila Lappin

In build.xml what should I set this value to be?

thanks



j2sdk1.4 compilation errors, any good online source for info?

2002-03-20 Thread Leila Lappin

Could someone please suggest a good online source for getting some detail information 
on compilation errors with J2sdk1.4.  I am trying to port an application that has been 
compiled and tested on NT with j2sdkee-1_3_01 libraries.  The new system RH7.2 using 
the new j2sk1.4 whines about not finding String class definition with a [JLS 8] 
stuck to the end of the message.

I'm using javac (haven't the time to learn forte) from command line and have set my 
classpath to see  j2sk1.4/lib/tools.jar  and  j2sdk1.4/jre/lib/jsse.jar  

thanks in advance for any help and suggestions

Leila



Re: j2sdk1.4 compilation errors, any good online source for info?

2002-03-20 Thread Leila Lappin

Hi Michael,

Thanks for the answer, I'm trying to setup my CLASSPATH to find the jar file
that contains the definition for String.  My problem is that I can't find
it!!

It used to be in j2ee.jar in j2skee-1_3_01.

My name is Leila and it's Persian.

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From: Micael Padraig Og mac Grene [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Tomcat Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 6:05 PM
Subject: Re: j2sdk1.4 compilation errors, any good online source for info?


 Leil,

 If you just want to compile, you can set the command line at the
 jdk1.4/bin/ (where javac is)and then enter javac
 /usr/local/myapp/MyClass.java or wherever the class is.  But, what you
 really need to do is to set up your CLASSPATH environmental variables in
 /etc/profile to the appropriate locations to find javac, java, your
 classes, etc.  There is no problem with RH 7.2 and j2k1.4.  I use that.

 Hope this is helpful.

 Micael

 What sort of name is Leil?  Never seen that before.  Looks cool!



 At 08:52 PM 3/20/02 -0800, you wrote:
 Could someone please suggest a good online source for getting some detail
 information on compilation errors with J2sdk1.4.  I am trying to port an
 application that has been compiled and tested on NT with j2sdkee-1_3_01
 libraries.  The new system RH7.2 using the new j2sk1.4 whines about not
 finding String class definition with a [JLS 8] stuck to the end of the
 message.
 
 I'm using javac (haven't the time to learn forte) from command line and
 have set my classpath to
 see  j2sk1.4/lib/tools.jar  and  j2sdk1.4/jre/lib/jsse.jar
 
 thanks in advance for any help and suggestions
 
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Re: JDBC, tomcat setup question

2002-03-14 Thread Leila Lappin

HI all,
Yesterday I posted the question how to configure jdbc with tomcat and I got
some responses although the question seemed to be elementary, thank you.

I read some suggested how to documents and it's pretty clear what needs to
be done.  But the problem I'm trying to resolve is how I may avoid placing
jar files under tomcat's directory structure in order to have them picked
up.  I found the topic External Dependencies that seems to address this
issue by setting proper configuration values in build.xml.  Hopefully I'll
find what I'm looking for.

thanks

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From: August Detlefsen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Tomcat Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 8:02 PM
Subject: Re: JDBC, tomcat setup question


 Not the same...

 How many people even know what a class loader is when they start using
 Tomcat..?


 --- Emir Alikadic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On 3/13/2002 9:57 PM, August Detlefsen wrote:
   Sorry, Leila, my comment was not meant to offend, but yours is the
  #1
   question asked on this list (Where do I put my jar files?).
  
   Hmmm... There really should be a FAQ for all this stuff...
 
  How about a HOWTO, as in Class Loader HOWTO:
 
 http://jakarta.apache.org/tomcat/tomcat-4.0-doc/class-loader-howto.html
 
 
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JDBC, tomcat setup question

2002-03-13 Thread Leila Lappin

Hi all,

I'm trying to set up tomcat and port an application that I developed and tested using 
Jrun, being new to the environment and I have two questions. My first question is 
adding additional jar files like jdbc jar files. I've been reading through a lot of 
material trying to figure out how to set up tomcat environment to do so, couldn't find 
any clear references. Under Jrun every web-application has a user classpath that can 
be modified for additional jar files and third party software. I can't find any such 
feature in tomcat. Can someone please give me some advice or where to find information 
on this issue? 

I haven't read through all documentation yet but the general impression I've been 
getting is that to modify tomcat's environment and behavior the server must be rebuilt 
and can't be changed by simply switching the run time environment that supports a new 
feature. This brings me to my second question, in the document 
tomcat-3.2/tomcat-ssl-howto.html it is indicates that to use Tomcat with SSL it has to 
rebuild. Does that mean that if I download the binary I will not have the version that 
works with SSL? Or better yet if someday in the future I needed to add something 
that's not part of the features of the download then I would have to download and 
rebuild to get it?

I thank you all in advance for you patience and help. As you may have guessed I'm new 
to both tomcat and Linux.

Leila




Re: JDBC, tomcat setup question

2002-03-13 Thread Leila Lappin

thanks for the response, what is RTFM?  


- Original Message - 
From: August Detlefsen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Tomcat Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 6:08 PM
Subject: Re: JDBC, tomcat setup question


 This is definately a RTFM issue, buuut: 
 
 Put your .jar files in: /path/to/tomcat/lib 
 
 There is no need to change the classpath, TC picks it up automatically
 when it is started. 
 
 
 --- Leila Lappin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi all,
  
  I'm trying to set up tomcat and port an application that I developed
  and tested using Jrun, being new to the environment and I have two
  questions. My first question is adding additional jar files like jdbc
  jar files. I've been reading through a lot of material trying to
  figure out how to set up tomcat environment to do so, couldn't find
  any clear references. Under Jrun every web-application has a user
  classpath that can be modified for additional jar files and third
  party software. I can't find any such feature in tomcat. Can someone
  please give me some advice or where to find information on this
  issue? 
  
  I haven't read through all documentation yet but the general
  impression I've been getting is that to modify tomcat's environment
  and behavior the server must be rebuilt and can't be changed by
  simply switching the run time environment that supports a new
  feature. This brings me to my second question, in the document
  tomcat-3.2/tomcat-ssl-howto.html it is indicates that to use Tomcat
  with SSL it has to rebuild. Does that mean that if I download the
  binary I will not have the version that works with SSL? Or better yet
  if someday in the future I needed to add something that's not part of
  the features of the download then I would have to download and
  rebuild to get it?
  
  I thank you all in advance for you patience and help. As you may have
  guessed I'm new to both tomcat and Linux.
  
  Leila
  
  
 
 
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Re: JDBC, tomcat setup question

2002-03-13 Thread Leila Lappin

I have been reading the documentation but IMHO they are written for people
who already know the environment and are pretty comfortable with jakarta
family of products.  I'm new to both linux and tomcat.  Anyway I found a
forum where I may find some answers.

thanks again.


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  thanks for the response, what is RTFM?
 

 Read The ..um ..er lovely Manuals


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Re: JDBC, tomcat setup question

2002-03-13 Thread Leila Lappin

I read the suggested how to document and it's pretty clear what needs to
be done.  But the problem I'm trying to resolve is how I may avoid placing
jar files under tomcat's directory structure in order to have them picked
up.  I found a topic External Dependencies that seems to address this
issue by setting proper configuration values in build.xml.  Hopefully I'll
find what I'm looking for.

thanks

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From: August Detlefsen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Tomcat Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 8:02 PM
Subject: Re: JDBC, tomcat setup question


 Not the same...

 How many people even know what a class loader is when they start using
 Tomcat..?


 --- Emir Alikadic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On 3/13/2002 9:57 PM, August Detlefsen wrote:
   Sorry, Leila, my comment was not meant to offend, but yours is the
  #1
   question asked on this list (Where do I put my jar files?).
  
   Hmmm... There really should be a FAQ for all this stuff...
 
  How about a HOWTO, as in Class Loader HOWTO:
 
 http://jakarta.apache.org/tomcat/tomcat-4.0-doc/class-loader-howto.html
 
 
  Emir.
 
 
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