Re: Problem with security?
There are some pretty good resources for getting started on Servlet/JSP stuff; try the O'Reilly books, especially the latest version of their JSP book. I suggest that you need to think of what you are wanting to do in 2 phases: 1. Login 2. Authenticate (using values supplied by login). There are a couple of alternatives if you want to save your user's from having to type in passwords over and over; since I'm kind of bored, here's a brief list: 1. If you're users are on Windows desktops, then NTLM Auth can get the User information from the browser (either IE or Firefox) without the user having to login (see http://jcifs.samba.org/src/docs/ntlmhttpauth.html) 2. If you have then deployed, then you could use client-certificates to authenticate users. 3. You could use a 'remember-me' library (typically uses cookies so that user only has to login once). Gagnon, Joseph M (US SSA) wrote: Did I not say that I'm new to this? I made no mention to whether or not I was trying to make it secure. This is only meant to be used within my company's intranet and my intention was to take the user account and then compare it with a set of registered users in the application's DB. I am beginning to see that at the very least I need to create some kind of mechanism (although I don't understand yet how to go about that, or how many different ways it can be done) to perform user authentication. If anyone can provide information on how to do this (keep in mind I'm new at this), please let me know. -Original Message- From: Robert Harper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 10:59 AM To: 'Tomcat Users List' Subject: RE: Problem with security? -- Robert r. Sanders Chief Technologist iPOV (334) 821-5412 www.ipov.net - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Accessing images through FrontController Servlet
Do you have any logs of what's going on? Also, make sure the pages are using the tag (or equivalent), as the image paths need to be relative to the url that the client browser see - should be able to hard code the path to be /ntrr/images/whatever.jpg To check for bad paths first view page source from your browser, then you can get the image urls and see if they map to the correct path. There are also some nice tools that you can run to see what's going on, for instance the "Live Headers" extension for Firefox, or Ethereal for a more general solution William BC Crandall wrote: Hello, I'm starting a new project, using a FrontController servlet (http://java.sun.com/j2ee/patterns/FrontController.html), and am unable to access image files. My understanding is that each invokes another call to the server/servlet, which, due to the mapping in web.xml, is channeled through the controller servlet, which rejects the call because it does not point to a sub-servlet. How can I access images in webapps/ntrr/images/ ? My web.xml: controller org.ntrr.core.ControlServlet controller /* I have tried, without success, adding: imageUrl http://localhost:8080/ntrr/images/ The files in webapps/ntrr/images/ ARE accessible from webapps/ntrr/css/ntrr.css, when called as background page images, for example. Any suggestions welcomed. Thanks, -BC William BC Crandall bc.crandall [around] earthlink.net - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Robert r. Sanders Chief Technologist iPOV (334) 821-5412 www.ipov.net
Re: What happened to the searchable list archive?
You can also use: http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.comp.jakarta.tomcat.user I tend to like its interface a little bit better. Steve Kirk wrote: Thanks - great site. Just what I was looking for. -Original Message- From: GB Developer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday 20 May 2005 18:05 To: 'Tomcat Users List' Subject: RE: What happened to the searchable list archive? I like marc. http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=tomcat-user&r=1&w=2 -Original Message- From: Steve Kirk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 20, 2005 8:14 AM To: tomcat-user@jakarta.apache.org Subject: What happened to the searchable list archive? It's been a few months since I've been active on the list, and the list archive seems to have changed in that time, could someone please advise? I used to search the list archives here: http://nagoya.apache.org/eyebrowse/SearchList?listName=tomcat- [EMAIL PROTECTED] pache.org But that archive appears to contain very few of the current messages (e.g. only 7 from April, none at all for this month), is there a reason for that? It appears to have gone quiet after Jan 2005 for some reason, see here: http://nagoya.apache.org/eyebrowse/SummarizeList?listName=tomc [EMAIL PROTECTED] a.apache.org I see that there is an archive here now http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/jakarta-tomcat-user but it doesn't appear to be searchable...? Of course we can use google site search to search this list, but it's not quite the same thing because you can't select a list to search. Also the thread browsing is not as easy from this archive, once you have found a post via google. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Robert r. Sanders Chief Technologist iPOV (334) 821-5412 www.ipov.net
Re: server options
Running "java -h" from Windows XP w/ JRE 1.5.0_02 claims that it supports the -server flag. Try creating an environment variable JAVA_OPTS and setting it to be "-server -Xmx256m". -- Robert r. Sanders Chief Technologist iPOV (334) 821-5412 www.ipov.net - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Can a servlet receive its own request?
I've done something a little similar w/ the HTTPClient. What I ended up w/ was a Object that was run in the Servlet container but was not itself a servlet. Nit-picking. Anyway, you can do this, you just have to use other libraries (like the Commons HTTPClient). Michael Mehrle wrote: Thanks for your elaborate reply - actually, someone else also suggested to use commons HTTPClient. I might have over-explained all this - the major difference is that the servlet is being launched by Quartz, not by an outside HTTP request. Thus, it is the servlet that needs to be able to receive the response to its own request, and it appears that HTTPClient might enable the servlet to do this. Michael -- Robert r. Sanders Chief Technologist iPOV (334) 821-5412 www.ipov.net - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Turbine? DBCP?
You might want to checkout Spring: http://www.springframework.org/docs/reference/index.html Geoff Wiggs wrote: What ever happened to Turbine? Is it still used with Tomcat 5.5.+? If so, where do I go to get it? If not, then how am I supposed to handle things like connection pooling? Is there a good tutorial available? I'm working my way through some examples that were written in previous version of Tomcat. Can anyone provide a little direction? Thanks, List. Geoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.orcastech.com -- Robert r. Sanders Chief Technologist iPOV (334) 821-5412 www.ipov.net - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 2 nd Try : help need for hosting the website
Is your machine's IP mapped to www.anishanumandla.com ? Try running "nslookup www.anishanumandla.com" and/or "ping www.anishanumandla.com" from the command-line and see what you get. It not, you can test using the hostname by creating a local mapping C:\WINNT\system32\drivers\etc\hosts file. Ashok Anumandla wrote: Hi All, I am trying to host my website on Tomcat 5.5.9 in my home machine, i did following steps .. - installed the JRE,JAVA, and Tomcat 5.5.9 - installed ant - when i run ant, it created anishanumandla under tomcat webapps. - configured following in server.xml - Configured web.xml for welcome file. - Configured my linksys to fwd the any request from www.anishanumandla.com to port number and 8080 port. - Restarted the tomcat, But unfortunately i am not able to make it working , when i try http://localhost:8080/anishanumandla, it is working fine, but when i try accessing www.anishanumandla.com it is not working, i am getting page not found error, can somebody please tell me what i am doing wrong here?? or if there is step by step document, can u please send me the url,,, the environmentment is Windows 2000... Thanks in advance Regards Ashok - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Robert r. Sanders Chief Technologist iPOV (334) 821-5412 www.ipov.net - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to use servlet filters without modifying webapp
Try the following: - Put you filter into a package, I've seen some versions of the JVM that really don't like non-package classes. - Make sure you are using settings compatible with the JVM that Tomcat is running under when compiling the class. joelsherriff wrote: I've done that, thanks. Here's what I added for the filter: timerFilter TimerFilter timerFilter /* to my web.xml. It appears to be finding it properly. If I change the filter name to a non-existent filter, I properly get a ClassNotFoundException. So it's something IN the filter, or so it would seem. All I've done is copy an example filter from the web - it looks like: import java.io.*; import javax.servlet.*; import javax.servlet.http.*; public class TimerFilter implements Filter { private FilterConfig config = null; public void init(FilterConfig config) throws ServletException { this.config = config; } public void destroy() { this.config = null; } public void doFilter(ServletRequest request, ServletResponse response, FilterChain chain) throws IOException, ServletException { long before = System.currentTimeMillis(); chain.doFilter(request, response); long after = System.currentTimeMillis(); String name = ""; if (request instanceof HttpServletRequest) { name = ((HttpServletRequest)request).getRequestURI(); } config.getServletContext().log(name + ": " + (after - before) + "ms"); } } - Original Message - From: "Anhony" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Tomcat Users List" Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 9:48 AM Subject: Re: How to use servlet filters without modifying webapp Greetings, Try adding a block to your web.xml. Your JSP container locates your filters thru these sections in the web.xml. I included a small sample block below. processingFilter servletFilters.ProcessingFilter I hope this helps. Anthony- - Original Message - From: "joelsherriff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Tomcat Users List" Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 9:36 AM Subject: How to use servlet filters without modifying webapp Hello, I'm experimenting with applying a servlet filter to an existing webapp and I'm getting a ClassCastException upon startup. Can I do this without modifying the webapp source and adding my filter in there? If so, what else could be causing this? I'm not sure where it looks for the filter .class file but I put it in the webapp's WEB-INF/classes directory - I guess it finds it since I'm getting this error. The filter really does nothing, I'm just trying to get A filter in place before making it more complicated. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Robert r. Sanders Chief Technologist iPOV (334) 821-5412 www.ipov.net - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: set header in all responses
I'd use a servlet filter; but either way it should work. Peter Crowther wrote: From: Rodrigo Avila [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Is possible to put this headers in all responses generated by Tomcat? response.setHeader("Pragma","no-cache"); response.setHeader ("Cache-Control","no-history"); response.setDateHeader("Expires",-1); Yes. At worst, you could write a Valve that set those fields before invoking the next valve in the chain, and put it into your server.xml. There may well be more elegant solutions. - Peter - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Robert r. Sanders Chief Technologist iPOV (334) 821-5412 www.ipov.net - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: snmp and Nagios
A quick search of google for "jmx snmp" found this: http://edge.mcs.drexel.edu/GICL/people/sevy/snmp/snmp.html lawrence wrote: Hi all, New to the tomcat list. I have spent the last few days searching the net for ideas on how to monitor tomcat via SNMP. I am trying to gather information like: Number of sessions per minute. Number of spare threads etc. Basically I am trying to get over all health of the tomcat servers(s) The trick is, I am trying to trap this information with my monitoring server (Nagios) so I can alert on it and have all my monitoring in a central location. Can anyone give me any pointers, solutions, examples for this? I have not been able to come up with many “Open Source” solutions. Thanks Lawrence. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Robert r. Sanders Chief Technologist iPOV (334) 821-5412 www.ipov.net - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: going nuts here
Try ServletContext.getRealPath(relativePath) Didier McGillis wrote: I want to see if an image exists I dont want red "x"'s yet I cant seem to get the real path to check with File so is there another way. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Robert r. Sanders Chief Technologist iPOV (334) 821-5412 www.ipov.net - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Can't do logout in basic authentication
You can try google: http://www.modpython.org/pipermail/mod_python/2001-August/012120.html Otgonbayar wrote: I am using basic authentication in my application and I need to create logout link in my JSP that does LOGOUT. It seems session.invalidate() doesn't work. How can I do this? Please help me! Thanks Otgo - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Robert r. Sanders Chief Technologist iPOV (334) 821-5412 www.ipov.net - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How do I restrict access to webapps applications from browser users?
Note that there are also a number of Filters that can implement something similar, with much more fine grained control than the servlet-spec allows for container-managed security. Darryl Wilburn wrote: I lost the thread to this original message, but found what I consider good information. Ike, Here's a link to some information on using security-constraint: http://www.onjava.com/pub/a/onjava/2001/07/24/tomcat.html It also states: "The sub-element defines the authentication method for the defined realm. The possible values are BASIC, DIGEST, and FORM. And the sub-element names the Web resource that this maps to." So it doesn't seem to require BASIC authentication. Darryl __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Robert r. Sanders Chief Technologist iPOV (334) 821-5412 www.ipov.net - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Can you use Tomcat when you are not on line?
Try using the 'full' path - add the http:// before localhost:8080. IE automatically adds it if the port is 80 or unspecified, otherwise it gets confused. Walter Lee wrote: I have Tomcat installed on W2K and it says it is installed correctly. When I try the examples it tells me that I must be on line. If I am using localhost:8080 why does it need to be on line? -- Robert r. Sanders Chief Technologist iPOV (334) 821-5412 www.ipov.net - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: transport guarantee in server.xml?
I'm not am expert, but I don't know of any way other than creating a stub web.xml file - it shouldn't have to be much, but I think you're going to need it. Although an alternative would be to have a element in the server.xml file that has ONLY the SSL , but that seems like even more overkill to me. Ossie Guy wrote: In our server.xml (Tomcat 4.1), we have a context that is used to serve up static content (PDFs) that are collected in a directory on our server: There is no war or other webapp involved here, just the folder with the static files, and thus no web.xml either... (Don't worry, we are making much use of the servlet API elsewhere on the same server ;) Now, we want to serve these files up through SSL - we have the SSL Connector configured correctly, everything's just great, BUT a savvy user can still get the files through non-SSL by changing the URL. So - is there any way to *enforce* that this context is accessed only through SSL? I have seen documentation suggesting something like the following: But this goes in web.xml, and again, we have none here - do we need to make one just to enforce this constraint? Or is there some way to enforce this from within the server.xml file itself, perhaps within the above section? Any help would be appreciated. Cheers, Ossie _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Robert r. Sanders Chief Technologist iPOV (334) 821-5412 www.ipov.net - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Wild Card Hosting
I have a sort of similar setup; we have shell script that simple adds an hostname to Tomcat's server.xml file; not the optimal solution, but it works for us for now. Drew Jorgenson wrote: Woops, I don't think that will work with Tomcat since the subdomain.mydomain.com would be passed to it and Tomcat won't know which container it goes to. The way I normally do this, is assign a static IP to a virtual host and set the IP as one of its aliases. That way all wild card domains point to the same container. Drew P.S. I will think about this a bit more since it is valid point, I wouldn't want to give out all my static IPs just for the wild cards to work. On Fri, 2005-03-25 at 12:36, Drew Jorgenson wrote: I think that would still be up to your dns settings. You could have something like * IN CNAME mydomain.com correct me if I'm wrong ;-) Drew. On Thu, 2005-03-24 at 17:46, George Sexton wrote: Oh, I see where you are headed. One way to go would be to have a new service, with a new IP address, and make that the default host. That's out of the question since I host for so many people. George Sexton MH Software, Inc. http://www.mhsoftware.com/ Voice: 303 438 9585 -Original Message- From: Drew Jorgenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 4:14 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: Wild Card Hosting Are you able to assign a static IP address to your virtual host, meaning do you have a static IP available? Drew. On Wed, 2005-03-23 at 10:42, George Sexton wrote: Does anyone know if Tomcat supports Wild card hosting? Can I specify a pattern say *.domain.com And have all requests get forwarded to a specific host? Making the host the default host is not an option, because there is already another default host that is used. George Sexton MH Software, Inc. http://www.mhsoftware.com/ Voice: 303 438 9585 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Robert r. Sanders Chief Technologist iPOV (334) 821-5412 www.ipov.net - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Wild Card Hosting
You might also be able to do something similar by using Apache httpd as frontend and combining mod_jk with either mod_vhost or mod_rewrite. Rob Hunt wrote: There are some domain-name-registrars/DNS-providers that allow you to set up a wildcard "host" where their domain name servers will dynamically redirect HTTP requests. For example: http://*.domain.tld/ could be redirected to something like http://mywildcardhost.domain.tld/%SERVER_NAME%/ where "%SERVER_NAME%" would take on the whatever "host" was originally used in the HTTP request. It's then a simple task of using a wildcard servlet mapping ("/*" in this example) to direct the request accordingly. This obviates the need to customize Tomcat code. However, you'll probably need a nominal monetary outlay to use the services of said DDNS provider. Read more: http://www.changeip.com/ -- Robert r. Sanders Chief Technologist iPOV (334) 821-5412 www.ipov.net - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Slightly OT] MVC approach when JSP are not allowed
You could look into alternate MVC approachs like Freemarker, Velocity, or XSLT; these are processed by a servlet, but allow you to extract the presentation logic into a text-based template file. Also, as others have pointed out JSPs are compiled into servlets; and if you know your deployment target server then they can be precompiled. Elihu Smails wrote: I am working on a project that uses servlets exclusively. I would like to take advantage of a Model-View-Controller system in order to develop my servlets. For the last servlet project I worked on, I was in charge of the "back-end" data processing and did not have to mess with HTML. This time I do have to roll up my sleeves and play with HTML. So I ask the question. Since the requirement that I have is to use servlets only, can I use something like Struts or Java Server Faces? I am reading some information and it looks like they both rely on JSP to ge the job done. Thank you for your time... - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Robert r. Sanders Chief Technologist iPOV (334) 821-5412 www.ipov.net - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Interframework Authentication.
You might look into: http://tp.its.yale.edu/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=CentralAuthenticationService Elam Daly wrote: Howdy all, I am writing an web application for a client in which customers can browse an order database. This application would be linked to from a .net application in which the said user has already been authenticated. Can anyone suggest or know of an authentication scheme which could be shared by both so the customers don't have to log in twice? Cheers, Elam Daly - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Robert r. Sanders Chief Technologist iPOV (334) 821-5412 www.ipov.net - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mod_jk + ssl on a virtual host.
Caldarale, Charles R wrote: From: Robert r. Sanders [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: mod_jk + ssl on a virtual host. When connecting, I can access the web application via HTTPS; however Tomcat seems unaware that the connection is secure Have you set secure="true" in the connector entry in server.xml that you're using for Tomcat? (Not sure what the side effects might be.) - Chuck No, currently the same connection (ajp13) is being used for both http and https. I have had success with this in the past; but not with the admitedly wierd setup that I currently am trying to get working. -- Robert r. Sanders Chief Technologist iPOV (334) 821-5412 www.ipov.net - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mod_jk + ssl on a virtual host.
I have an issue with detecting HTTPS when running on a virtual server behing mod_jk; here's my setup: For reasons that I can't currently change I have an internal server running as app.server.com (example url); it is aliased so that multiple virtual hosts (name based) are running as: x.app.server.com , y.app.server.com, z.app.server.com, etc... The server has an internal SSL certificate generated for app.server.com; this produces a warning, but otherwise works when using HTTPS to connect to x.app.server.com. Not the best solution, I know, but like I said right now I am just trying to support it. So, to complicate matters I have Tomcat (5.0.28) running on the same machine, with all the virtual hosts using x.app.server.com in my server.xml file. When connecting, I can access the web application via HTTPS; however Tomcat seems unaware that the connection is secure - request.isSecure() == false, as well as other tests that I can think of, overall annoying, but not too bad except that redirects are generated pointing to HTTP instead of HTTPS. I have tried: JkExtractSSL On JkHTTPSIndicator HTTPS Does anyone know of any work around/fix to this? Thanks, -- Robert r. Sanders Chief Technologist iPOV (334) 821-5412 www.ipov.net - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Start and stop Tomcat + Cron
Are your JAVA_HOME and other vars defined in a global context? Other than that I don't really know. Cédric Buschini wrote: Hi I'd like to stop and start my tomcat using cron so I added this in the root's crontab and /etc/crontab : 00 22 * * * root /PATH/TO/JAKARTA/bin/shutdown.sh 02 22 * * * root /PATH/TO/JAKARTA/bin/startup.sh but it does work :s Any got ideas ??? Thk Cedric - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Robert r. Sanders Chief Technologist iPOV (334) 821-5412 www.ipov.net - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]