Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer
I'm looking for an experienced JSP/Servlet programmer located in our area. We're located in West Palm Beach, FL. We've tried posting the Job on Monster, and looking for candidates on there, but still cannot find someone that can do the job.
RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer
This is a permanent position. Initially we need help converting a 400 ASP program payroll web application to JSP, Servlets, and Java Web Services. -Original Message- From: Joseph Krasnov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:42 PM To: 'Tomcat Users List' Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer What do you need to be done? Joseph Krasnov -Original Message----- From: Ruben Gamez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:33 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer I'm looking for an experienced JSP/Servlet programmer located in our area. We're located in West Palm Beach, FL. We've tried posting the Job on Monster, and looking for candidates on there, but still cannot find someone that can do the job. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I would think so, but it's true. I've gotten several people that interview well, but none that can pass a couple of simple tests (I consider them simple). -Original Message- From: epyonne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:55 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer Cannot find anyone?!?!?! It is rather hard to believe based on current job market. - Original Message ----- From: "Ruben Gamez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 02:33 PM Subject: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer I'm looking for an experienced JSP/Servlet programmer located in our area. We're located in West Palm Beach, FL. We've tried posting the Job on Monster, and looking for candidates on there, but still cannot find someone that can do the job. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Yes, well, I'm only asking for 1 1/2+ years experience in JSP & Servlets and I'm still having trouble. I was asking for ColdFusion as well, but I've given up on that. I'll just have to train the new developer on CF later on. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 4:15 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer I agree. I worked for a place that listed C++ in all there job listings, but there was not one line of C in the whole company. I asked who was programming C, but they didn't know what I was talking about. LOL Thank You, Justin A. Stanczak Web Manager Shake Learning Resource Center Vincennes University (812)888-5813 "John B. Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 10/17/2003 03:10 PM Please respond to "Tomcat Users List" To: Tomcat Users List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc: Subject:Re: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer Yeah, and those of "us" that do have the credentials get lost in the "forest". (Not to mention the observation that many of these "job postings" want the person to have x years of experience in 6-7 different areas, mostly unrelated and the total "experience" years exceeds most normal human's productive lifespans, even accounting for reasonable "overlap"...) John.. Hart, Justin wrote: >That's what I've found. The market is full of tech workers, but that doesn't mean that they're a programmer, or as familiar with technology X (for position Y) as they should be. I went to a job fair a couple years ago for 4 job opennings, 2 for programmers. 2 for techs. 1000 people showed up, and I spoke with only 4-5 that I really thought qualified for the programming jobs or had credentials that showed that they qualified for the job. > >-Original Message- >From: Ruben Gamez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:57 PM >To: Tomcat Users List >Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer > > >I would think so, but it's true. I've gotten several people that >interview well, but none that can pass a couple of simple tests (I >consider them simple). > >-Original Message- >From: epyonne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:55 PM >To: Tomcat Users List >Subject: Re: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer > >Cannot find anyone?!?!?! It is rather hard to believe based on current >job >market. > > >- Original Message - >From: "Ruben Gamez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 02:33 PM >Subject: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer > > >I'm looking for an experienced JSP/Servlet programmer located in our >area. We're located in West Palm Beach, FL. We've tried posting the >Job on Monster, and looking for candidates on there, but still cannot >find someone that can do the job. > >- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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The first is a written test which has J2SE, Servlet, and JSP questions. The second is a programming test, they must write a JSP page that form posts to a Servlet, that retrieves ANYTHING from a Bean and outputs it in the Servlet. I have a lab computer set up with everything except the code. They must also use notepad to do this. -Original Message- From: David Rees [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 4:16 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer On Fri, October 17, 2003 1at 2:56 pm, Ruben Gamez sent the following > I would think so, but it's true. I've gotten several people that > interview well, but none that can pass a couple of simple tests (I > consider them simple). Out of curiosity, what are the tests you are giving them? -Dave - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I just have a hard time believing that I can't get anyone in my area. Besides, it's not my call whether they can telecommute or not. -Original Message- From: mike jackson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 4:25 PM To: 'Tomcat Users List' Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer Why in you area? You might have an easier time finding someone to work remotely. --mikej -=-- mike jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -Original Message----- > From: Ruben Gamez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 11:33 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer > > I'm looking for an experienced JSP/Servlet programmer located in our > area. We're located in West Palm Beach, FL. We've tried posting the > Job on Monster, and looking for candidates on there, but still cannot > find someone that can do the job. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Ok... here's two questions... 1. Off the top of your head, what two methods are required in a Servlet? What two parameters do they take? 2. What does a Servlet extend? -Original Message- From: Mike Curwen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 4:30 PM To: 'Tomcat Users List' Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer As off-topic as it is, I'm sure lots of us are *real* curious by now what an example question would be on your 'simple test'. :) > -----Original Message- > From: Ruben Gamez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:23 PM > To: Tomcat Users List > Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer > > > Yes, well, I'm only asking for 1 1/2+ years experience in JSP > & Servlets and I'm still having trouble. I was asking for > ColdFusion as well, but I've given up on that. I'll just > have to train the new developer on CF later on. > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 4:15 PM > To: Tomcat Users List > Subject: Re: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer > > I agree. I worked for a place that listed C++ in all there > job listings, > > but there was not one line of C in the whole company. I asked who was > programming C, but they didn't know what I was talking about. LOL > > > Thank You, > > Justin A. Stanczak > Web Manager > Shake Learning Resource Center > Vincennes University > (812)888-5813 > > > > > "John B. Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > 10/17/2003 03:10 PM > Please respond to "Tomcat Users List" > > > To: Tomcat Users List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > cc: > Subject:Re: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer > > > Yeah, and those of "us" that do have the credentials get lost in the > "forest". (Not to mention the observation that many of these "job > postings" want the person to have x years of experience in > 6-7 different > > areas, mostly unrelated and the total "experience" years exceeds most > normal human's productive lifespans, even accounting for reasonable > "overlap"...) > > John.. > > Hart, Justin wrote: > > >That's what I've found. The market is full of tech workers, but that > doesn't mean that they're a programmer, or as familiar with > technology X > > (for position Y) as they should be. I went to a job fair a > couple years > > ago for 4 job opennings, 2 for programmers. 2 for techs. > 1000 people > showed up, and I spoke with only 4-5 that I really thought > qualified for > > the programming jobs or had credentials that showed that they > qualified > for the job. > > > >-Original Message- > >From: Ruben Gamez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:57 PM > >To: Tomcat Users List > >Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer > > > > > >I would think so, but it's true. I've gotten several people that > >interview well, but none that can pass a couple of simple tests (I > >consider them simple). > > > >-Original Message- > >From: epyonne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:55 PM > >To: Tomcat Users List > >Subject: Re: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer > > > >Cannot find anyone?!?!?! It is rather hard to believe based > on current > >job > >market. > > > > > >- Original Message - > >From: "Ruben Gamez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 02:33 PM > >Subject: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer > > > > > >I'm looking for an experienced JSP/Servlet programmer located in our > >area. We're located in West Palm Beach, FL. We've tried posting the > >Job on Monster, and looking for candidates on there, but still cannot > >find someone that can do the job. > > > >- > >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > >- > >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > >- > >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I would agree with you, but what I'm asking for should take 5 to 15 minutes. It's also pretty simple to do without looking anything up... it's very basic. -Original Message- From: Hart, Justin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 4:31 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer Honestly, I've been a professional C++ programmer for several years now, and I don't mean to toot my own horn, but I'm a damn good one. I don't expect anyone to be able to sit down at the terminal in vi with no man pages and hammer out code in an hour or 2 that does much anything useful. Perhaps a handful of programming questions would be a bit more applicable... but that's just my $.02 -Original Message- From: Ruben Gamez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 4:27 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer The first is a written test which has J2SE, Servlet, and JSP questions. The second is a programming test, they must write a JSP page that form posts to a Servlet, that retrieves ANYTHING from a Bean and outputs it in the Servlet. I have a lab computer set up with everything except the code. They must also use notepad to do this. -Original Message- From: David Rees [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 4:16 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer On Fri, October 17, 2003 1at 2:56 pm, Ruben Gamez sent the following > I would think so, but it's true. I've gotten several people that > interview well, but none that can pass a couple of simple tests (I > consider them simple). Out of curiosity, what are the tests you are giving them? -Dave - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Yes, you are wrong. ColdFusion MX was entire rewritten in Java, and it allows you to write JSP, Servlets and Java programs that you can use within it. It's become quite powerful now. -Original Message- From: epyonne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 4:31 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer Correct me if I am wrong, but I think Cold Fusion is dying (if not already dead) technology. - Original Message - From: "Ruben Gamez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Tomcat Users List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 03:23 PM Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer Yes, well, I'm only asking for 1 1/2+ years experience in JSP & Servlets and I'm still having trouble. I was asking for ColdFusion as well, but I've given up on that. I'll just have to train the new developer on CF later on. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 4:15 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer I agree. I worked for a place that listed C++ in all there job listings, but there was not one line of C in the whole company. I asked who was programming C, but they didn't know what I was talking about. LOL Thank You, Justin A. Stanczak Web Manager Shake Learning Resource Center Vincennes University (812)888-5813 "John B. Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 10/17/2003 03:10 PM Please respond to "Tomcat Users List" To: Tomcat Users List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc: Subject:Re: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer Yeah, and those of "us" that do have the credentials get lost in the "forest". (Not to mention the observation that many of these "job postings" want the person to have x years of experience in 6-7 different areas, mostly unrelated and the total "experience" years exceeds most normal human's productive lifespans, even accounting for reasonable "overlap"...) John.. Hart, Justin wrote: >That's what I've found. The market is full of tech workers, but that doesn't mean that they're a programmer, or as familiar with technology X (for position Y) as they should be. I went to a job fair a couple years ago for 4 job opennings, 2 for programmers. 2 for techs. 1000 people showed up, and I spoke with only 4-5 that I really thought qualified for the programming jobs or had credentials that showed that they qualified for the job. > >-Original Message- >From: Ruben Gamez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:57 PM >To: Tomcat Users List >Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer > > >I would think so, but it's true. I've gotten several people that >interview well, but none that can pass a couple of simple tests (I >consider them simple). > >-Original Message- >From: epyonne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:55 PM >To: Tomcat Users List >Subject: Re: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer > >Cannot find anyone?!?!?! It is rather hard to believe based on current >job >market. > > >- Original Message - >From: "Ruben Gamez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 02:33 PM >Subject: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer > > >I'm looking for an experienced JSP/Servlet programmer located in our >area. We're located in West Palm Beach, FL. We've tried posting the >Job on Monster, and looking for candidates on there, but still cannot >find someone that can do the job. > >- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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See! I'll take anything like that! That shows me you have SOME kind of idea what I'm talking about... I'm not so much as looking at the percentage of questions they answered right or wrong, just HOW they answered the questions... -Original Message- From: mike jackson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 4:46 PM To: 'Tomcat Users List' Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer Hmm, I could see where people would have difficulty. Since the answers are "there's 5 methods" and "nothing" (servlet is an interface). --mikej -=-- mike jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -Original Message- > From: Ruben Gamez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 12:33 PM > To: Tomcat Users List > Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer > > Ok... here's two questions... > > 1. Off the top of your head, what two methods are required in a Servlet? > What two parameters do they take? > > 2. What does a Servlet extend? > > > -Original Message- > From: Mike Curwen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 4:30 PM > To: 'Tomcat Users List' > Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer > > As off-topic as it is, I'm sure lots of us are *real* curious by now > what an example question would be on your 'simple test'. :) > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Ruben Gamez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:23 PM > > To: Tomcat Users List > > Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer > > > > > > Yes, well, I'm only asking for 1 1/2+ years experience in JSP > > & Servlets and I'm still having trouble. I was asking for > > ColdFusion as well, but I've given up on that. I'll just > > have to train the new developer on CF later on. > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 4:15 PM > > To: Tomcat Users List > > Subject: Re: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer > > > > I agree. I worked for a place that listed C++ in all there > > job listings, > > > > but there was not one line of C in the whole company. I asked who was > > programming C, but they didn't know what I was talking about. LOL > > > > > > Thank You, > > > > Justin A. Stanczak > > Web Manager > > Shake Learning Resource Center > > Vincennes University > > (812)888-5813 > > > > > > > > > > "John B. Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > 10/17/2003 03:10 PM > > Please respond to "Tomcat Users List" > > > > > > To: Tomcat Users List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > cc: > > Subject:Re: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer > > > > > > Yeah, and those of "us" that do have the credentials get lost in the > > "forest". (Not to mention the observation that many of these "job > > postings" want the person to have x years of experience in > > 6-7 different > > > > areas, mostly unrelated and the total "experience" years exceeds most > > normal human's productive lifespans, even accounting for reasonable > > "overlap"...) > > > > John.. > > > > Hart, Justin wrote: > > > > >That's what I've found. The market is full of tech workers, but that > > doesn't mean that they're a programmer, or as familiar with > > technology X > > > > (for position Y) as they should be. I went to a job fair a > > couple years > > > > ago for 4 job opennings, 2 for programmers. 2 for techs. > > 1000 people > > showed up, and I spoke with only 4-5 that I really thought > > qualified for > > > > the programming jobs or had credentials that showed that they > > qualified > > for the job. > > > > > >-Original Message- > > >From: Ruben Gamez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:57 PM > > >To: Tomcat Users List > > >Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer > > > > > > > > >I would think so, but it's true. I've gotten several people that > > >interview well, but none that can pass a couple of simple tests (I > > >consider them simple). > > > > > >-Original Message- > > >From: epyonne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >Se
RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer
That's a good answer also... -Original Message- From: Shapira, Yoav [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 4:46 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer Howdy, Two bad questions or bad phrasing of questions. 1. Servlet is an interface, implementing classes must have 5 methods not 2. 2. Servlet is an interface which does not extend other interfaces. If you're talking about GenericServlet, you should say so. Even then, question 1 is wrong, because to extend GenericServlet you must only override one method, the service() method. GenericServlet extends Object. If you're talking about HttpServlet, which I imagine is the case, again question 1 is wrong, because to extend HttpServlet you must only override one method, e.g. doGet, not two methods. HttpServlet extends GenericServlet. Yoav Shapira Millennium ChemInformatics >-Original Message- >From: Ruben Gamez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 4:33 PM >To: Tomcat Users List >Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer > >Ok... here's two questions... > >1. Off the top of your head, what two methods are required in a Servlet? >What two parameters do they take? > >2. What does a Servlet extend? This e-mail, including any attachments, is a confidential business communication, and may contain information that is confidential, proprietary and/or privileged. This e-mail is intended only for the individual(s) to whom it is addressed, and may not be saved, copied, printed, disclosed or used by anyone else. If you are not the(an) intended recipient, please immediately delete this e-mail from your computer system and notify the sender. Thank you. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Yes, but all of you are still missing the point. These questions are designed to find out how much they know about this. -Original Message- From: Brendle, Douglas A. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 4:49 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer Hmmm Direct from the Servlet API To implement this interface, you can write a generic servlet that extends javax.servlet.GenericServlet or an HTTP servlet that extends javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet. -Original Message- From: mike jackson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:46 PM To: 'Tomcat Users List' Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer Hmm, I could see where people would have difficulty. Since the answers are "there's 5 methods" and "nothing" (servlet is an interface). --mikej -=-- mike jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -----Original Message- > From: Ruben Gamez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 12:33 PM > To: Tomcat Users List > Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer > > Ok... here's two questions... > > 1. Off the top of your head, what two methods are required in a Servlet? > What two parameters do they take? > > 2. What does a Servlet extend? > > > -Original Message- > From: Mike Curwen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 4:30 PM > To: 'Tomcat Users List' > Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer > > As off-topic as it is, I'm sure lots of us are *real* curious by now > what an example question would be on your 'simple test'. :) > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Ruben Gamez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:23 PM > > To: Tomcat Users List > > Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer > > > > > > Yes, well, I'm only asking for 1 1/2+ years experience in JSP > > & Servlets and I'm still having trouble. I was asking for > > ColdFusion as well, but I've given up on that. I'll just > > have to train the new developer on CF later on. > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 4:15 PM > > To: Tomcat Users List > > Subject: Re: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer > > > > I agree. I worked for a place that listed C++ in all there > > job listings, > > > > but there was not one line of C in the whole company. I asked who was > > programming C, but they didn't know what I was talking about. LOL > > > > > > Thank You, > > > > Justin A. Stanczak > > Web Manager > > Shake Learning Resource Center > > Vincennes University > > (812)888-5813 > > > > > > > > > > "John B. Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > 10/17/2003 03:10 PM > > Please respond to "Tomcat Users List" > > > > > > To: Tomcat Users List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > cc: > > Subject:Re: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer > > > > > > Yeah, and those of "us" that do have the credentials get lost in the > > "forest". (Not to mention the observation that many of these "job > > postings" want the person to have x years of experience in > > 6-7 different > > > > areas, mostly unrelated and the total "experience" years exceeds most > > normal human's productive lifespans, even accounting for reasonable > > "overlap"...) > > > > John.. > > > > Hart, Justin wrote: > > > > >That's what I've found. The market is full of tech workers, but that > > doesn't mean that they're a programmer, or as familiar with > > technology X > > > > (for position Y) as they should be. I went to a job fair a > > couple years > > > > ago for 4 job opennings, 2 for programmers. 2 for techs. > > 1000 people > > showed up, and I spoke with only 4-5 that I really thought > > qualified for > > > > the programming jobs or had credentials that showed that they > > qualified > > for the job. > > > > > >-----Original Message- > > >From: Ruben Gamez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:57 PM > > >To: Tomcat Users List > > >Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer > > > > > > > > >I would think so, but it's true. I've gotten several people that > > >interview well, but none that can pass a couple of si
RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer
:) I'm not a "HR/recruiter/headhunter" type.. I'm a programmer type... Java, Servlets, JSP, ColdFusion, and ASP. -Original Message- From: Shapira, Yoav [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 4:49 PM To: Tomcat Users List; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer Howdy, Actually, my first impression was when I saw the bad questions more along the lines of a head shake and "another person who's just spouting off acronyms and buzzwords without having much of a clue" (e.g. the classic HR/recruiter/headhunter type). I bet other qualified people on the list though the same, none are as bored as I am right now waiting for Clover to complete its coverage analysis for a huge app. Yoav Shapira Millennium ChemInformatics >-Original Message- >From: Johan Kok [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 4:45 PM >To: 'Tomcat Users List' >Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer > >I've been monitoring this stream of curiousness, but now that the questions >is out, it became awfully quite or did my server decide to take a nap? >tsktsk > >Challenge who's got the answerThere's a job waiting... If you don't >know >the answer, have a quick peek at the manuals (RTFM) hehehehe... > >> -Original Message- >> From: Ruben Gamez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: 17 October 2003 10:33 >> To: Tomcat Users List >> Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer >> >> >> Ok... here's two questions... >> >> 1. Off the top of your head, what two methods are required in >> a Servlet? >> What two parameters do they take? >> >> 2. What does a Servlet extend? >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Mike Curwen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 4:30 PM >> To: 'Tomcat Users List' >> Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer >> >> As off-topic as it is, I'm sure lots of us are *real* curious by now >> what an example question would be on your 'simple test'. :) >> >> >> >> > -Original Message- >> > From: Ruben Gamez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:23 PM >> > To: Tomcat Users List >> > Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer >> > >> > >> > Yes, well, I'm only asking for 1 1/2+ years experience in JSP >> > & Servlets and I'm still having trouble. I was asking for >> > ColdFusion as well, but I've given up on that. I'll just >> > have to train the new developer on CF later on. >> > >> > -Original Message- >> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 4:15 PM >> > To: Tomcat Users List >> > Subject: Re: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer >> > >> > I agree. I worked for a place that listed C++ in all there >> > job listings, >> > >> > but there was not one line of C in the whole company. I >> asked who was >> > programming C, but they didn't know what I was talking about. LOL >> > >> > >> > Thank You, >> > >> > Justin A. Stanczak >> > Web Manager >> > Shake Learning Resource Center >> > Vincennes University >> > (812)888-5813 >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > "John B. Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > 10/17/2003 03:10 PM >> > Please respond to "Tomcat Users List" >> > >> > >> > To: Tomcat Users List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > cc: >> > Subject:Re: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer >> > >> > >> > Yeah, and those of "us" that do have the credentials get >> lost in the >> > "forest". (Not to mention the observation that many of these "job >> > postings" want the person to have x years of experience in >> > 6-7 different >> > >> > areas, mostly unrelated and the total "experience" years >> exceeds most >> > normal human's productive lifespans, even accounting for reasonable >> > "overlap"...) >> > >> > John.. >> > >> > Hart, Justin wrote: >> > >> > >That's what I've found. The market is full of tech >> workers, but that >> > doesn't mean that they're a programmer, or as familiar with >> > technology X >> > >
RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer
That's good as well... but I have 20 other questions that need answers. :) -Original Message- From: BAO RuiXian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 5:07 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer Ruben Gamez wrote: > Ok... here's two questions... > > 1. Off the top of your head, what two methods are required in a Servlet? > What two parameters do they take? doPost and doGet; HttpServletRequest, HttpServletResponse. > 2. What does a Servlet extend? HttpServlet. Can I pass your question?:))) > > -Original Message- > From: Mike Curwen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 4:30 PM > To: 'Tomcat Users List' > Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer > > As off-topic as it is, I'm sure lots of us are *real* curious by now > what an example question would be on your 'simple test'. :) > > > > >>-Original Message- >>From: Ruben Gamez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:23 PM >>To: Tomcat Users List >>Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer >> >> >>Yes, well, I'm only asking for 1 1/2+ years experience in JSP >>& Servlets and I'm still having trouble. I was asking for >>ColdFusion as well, but I've given up on that. I'll just >>have to train the new developer on CF later on. >> >>-Original Message- >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 4:15 PM >>To: Tomcat Users List >>Subject: Re: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer >> >>I agree. I worked for a place that listed C++ in all there >>job listings, >> >>but there was not one line of C in the whole company. I asked who was >>programming C, but they didn't know what I was talking about. LOL >> >> >>Thank You, >> >>Justin A. Stanczak >>Web Manager >>Shake Learning Resource Center >>Vincennes University >>(812)888-5813 >> >> >> >> >>"John B. Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>10/17/2003 03:10 PM >>Please respond to "Tomcat Users List" >> >> >>To: Tomcat Users List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>cc: >>Subject:Re: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer >> >> >>Yeah, and those of "us" that do have the credentials get lost in the >>"forest". (Not to mention the observation that many of these "job >>postings" want the person to have x years of experience in >>6-7 different >> >>areas, mostly unrelated and the total "experience" years exceeds most >>normal human's productive lifespans, even accounting for reasonable >>"overlap"...) >> >>John.. >> >>Hart, Justin wrote: >> >> >>>That's what I've found. The market is full of tech workers, but that >> >>doesn't mean that they're a programmer, or as familiar with >>technology X >> >>(for position Y) as they should be. I went to a job fair a >>couple years >> >>ago for 4 job opennings, 2 for programmers. 2 for techs. >>1000 people >>showed up, and I spoke with only 4-5 that I really thought >>qualified for >> >>the programming jobs or had credentials that showed that they >>qualified >>for the job. >> >>>-Original Message- >>>From: Ruben Gamez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:57 PM >>>To: Tomcat Users List >>>Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer >>> >>> >>>I would think so, but it's true. I've gotten several people that >>>interview well, but none that can pass a couple of simple tests (I >>>consider them simple). >>> >>>-Original Message- >>>From: epyonne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:55 PM >>>To: Tomcat Users List >>>Subject: Re: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer >>> >>>Cannot find anyone?!?!?! It is rather hard to believe based >> >>on current >> >>>job >>>market. >>> >>> >>>- Original Message - >>>From: "Ruben Gamez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 02:33 PM >>>Subject: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer >>> >>> >>>I'm looking for an experienced JSP/Servlet programmer located in our >>>area. We're located in West Palm Beach, FL. We've tried posting the >>>Job on Monster, and looking for candidates on there, but still cannot >>>find someone that can do the job. >>> >>>- >>>To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >>> >>> >>>- >>>To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Exactly! This is not advanced stuff! Yes, people can't seem to do this. They don't have the experience they claim to have... -Original Message- From: David Rees [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 4:54 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer On Fri, October 17, 2003 at 1:27 pm, Ruben Gamez sent the following > The first is a written test which has J2SE, Servlet, and JSP questions. > The second is a programming test, they must write a JSP page that form > posts to a Servlet, that retrieves ANYTHING from a Bean and outputs it > in the Servlet. I have a lab computer set up with everything except the > code. They must also use notepad to do this. Wow, sounds like entry level coding to me! And you're having trouble getting people to pass these things? -Dave - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Does anyone else think that what I'm asking for is so difficult? -Original Message- From: David Rees [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 4:54 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer On Fri, October 17, 2003 at 1:27 pm, Ruben Gamez sent the following > The first is a written test which has J2SE, Servlet, and JSP questions. > The second is a programming test, they must write a JSP page that form > posts to a Servlet, that retrieves ANYTHING from a Bean and outputs it > in the Servlet. I have a lab computer set up with everything except the > code. They must also use notepad to do this. Wow, sounds like entry level coding to me! And you're having trouble getting people to pass these things? -Dave - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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We're not listing the salary... One thing I'll say is that we don't skimp on that. We understand how much it costs to hire good people, and have no problem paying them that much. -Original Message- From: Justin Ruthenbeck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 5:20 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer At 02:16 PM 10/17/2003, you wrote: >Does anyone else think that what I'm asking for is so difficult? Just a thought -- is the salary reasonable for market conditions down there? If the price isn't right, qualified people may not be inquiring... Justin Ruthenbeck Software Engineer, NextEngine Inc. justinr - AT - nextengine DOT com Confidential See http://www.nextengine.com/confidentiality.php - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I don't want a programmer that wouldn't know that. If you've spent ANY amount of time writing Servlets, you SHOULD know doGet and doPost. That is very basic. -Original Message- From: Hart, Justin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 5:21 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer It's not that it's difficult, but I wouldn't ask questions about specific functions/parameters/methods. I have written plenty of java, and couldn't tell you what methods most specific interfaces implement. I couldn't even tell you what methods the interfaces that I've written implement. Instead, I would look for conceptual knowledge. I think that just about anybody can spit up wrote knowledge like that after an hour of studying and not know how to implement a thing, but most people who understand the actual concepts couldn't tell you what methods or how many methods, or what their parameters are. Just my $.02. -Original Message- From: Ruben Gamez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 5:17 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer Does anyone else think that what I'm asking for is so difficult? -Original Message- From: David Rees [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 4:54 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer On Fri, October 17, 2003 at 1:27 pm, Ruben Gamez sent the following > The first is a written test which has J2SE, Servlet, and JSP questions. > The second is a programming test, they must write a JSP page that form > posts to a Servlet, that retrieves ANYTHING from a Bean and outputs it > in the Servlet. I have a lab computer set up with everything except the > code. They must also use notepad to do this. Wow, sounds like entry level coding to me! And you're having trouble getting people to pass these things? -Dave - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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This stuff doesn't need to make sense, and it doesn't need to do anything useful. I just need to see that they can write something that works and I need to be able to see their code. -Original Message- From: mike jackson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 5:21 PM To: 'Tomcat Users List' Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer I don't understand the need for the jsp or the bean. If the page is to do a post then it'd seem like a straight html page is ok, and since you're not posting to a jsp it doesn't seem like a bean would be ideal (if the count of parameters is small, if large then maybe). But that's just me. --mikej -=-- mike jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -Original Message- > From: Ruben Gamez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 1:17 PM > To: Tomcat Users List > Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer > > Does anyone else think that what I'm asking for is so difficult? > > > -Original Message- > From: David Rees [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 4:54 PM > To: Tomcat Users List > Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer > > On Fri, October 17, 2003 at 1:27 pm, Ruben Gamez sent the following > > The first is a written test which has J2SE, Servlet, and JSP > questions. > > The second is a programming test, they must write a JSP page that form > > posts to a Servlet, that retrieves ANYTHING from a Bean and outputs it > > in the Servlet. I have a lab computer set up with everything except > the > > code. They must also use notepad to do this. > > Wow, sounds like entry level coding to me! And you're having trouble > getting people to pass these things? > > -Dave > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sorry, just trying to clarify a few things. I will await responses from qualified people in my area (if they exist). -Original Message- From: Mufaddal Khumri [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 4:57 AM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer I feel that we have discussed this topic enough. Could you please take this OFF TOPIC elsewhere ? On Saturday, October 18, 2003, at 02:46 AM, Ruben Gamez wrote: > Does anyone else think that what I'm asking for is so difficult? > > > -Original Message- > From: David Rees [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 4:54 PM > To: Tomcat Users List > Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer > > On Fri, October 17, 2003 at 1:27 pm, Ruben Gamez sent the following >> The first is a written test which has J2SE, Servlet, and JSP > questions. >> The second is a programming test, they must write a JSP page that form >> posts to a Servlet, that retrieves ANYTHING from a Bean and outputs it >> in the Servlet. I have a lab computer set up with everything except > the >> code. They must also use notepad to do this. > > Wow, sounds like entry level coding to me! And you're having trouble > getting people to pass these things? > > -Dave > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I'm not concerned with that. I'll take anything, but I just keep getting things like - private, public & main()... that's just wrong.. -Original Message- From: Mike Curwen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 5:28 PM To: 'Tomcat Users List' Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer It's not that it's difficult, but I think the questions, as asked, are a bit too sly for their own good. People don't necesssarily react well to 'trick' questions. If the question is phrased in such a way that it makes a 'qualified' candidate think "Oh my god, these QUESTIONS are wrong"... then how do they feel comfortable answering them without seeming too arrogant? They either answer the question "they" would have asked, if the situation were reversed (and since no-one is a mind reader, perhaps they'll get it wrong) or they'll try to describe the 3 or 4 things *wrong* with the question...(and end up answering some variant of the 'actual' question in that process) Or maybe they'll think those approaches are too arrogant, and would worry that to the poser of the question, it would be "telling him his job". know what I mean? > -Original Message- > From: Ruben Gamez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 4:17 PM > To: Tomcat Users List > Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer > > > Does anyone else think that what I'm asking for is so difficult? > > > -Original Message- > From: David Rees [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 4:54 PM > To: Tomcat Users List > Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer > > On Fri, October 17, 2003 at 1:27 pm, Ruben Gamez sent the following > > The first is a written test which has J2SE, Servlet, and JSP > questions. > > The second is a programming test, they must write a JSP > page that form > > posts to a Servlet, that retrieves ANYTHING from a Bean and > outputs it > > in the Servlet. I have a lab computer set up with everything except > the > > code. They must also use notepad to do this. > > Wow, sounds like entry level coding to me! And you're having > trouble getting people to pass these things? > > -Dave > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer
Like I said, I'm not looking for a specific answer - just give me a smart answer! -Original Message- From: Hart, Justin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 5:31 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer I heartilly disagree. You posted to a mailing list specifically about this topic, and got 5 different answers. -Original Message- From: Ruben Gamez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 5:24 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer I don't want a programmer that wouldn't know that. If you've spent ANY amount of time writing Servlets, you SHOULD know doGet and doPost. That is very basic. -Original Message- From: Hart, Justin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 5:21 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer It's not that it's difficult, but I wouldn't ask questions about specific functions/parameters/methods. I have written plenty of java, and couldn't tell you what methods most specific interfaces implement. I couldn't even tell you what methods the interfaces that I've written implement. Instead, I would look for conceptual knowledge. I think that just about anybody can spit up wrote knowledge like that after an hour of studying and not know how to implement a thing, but most people who understand the actual concepts couldn't tell you what methods or how many methods, or what their parameters are. Just my $.02. -Original Message- From: Ruben Gamez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 5:17 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer Does anyone else think that what I'm asking for is so difficult? -Original Message- From: David Rees [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 4:54 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer On Fri, October 17, 2003 at 1:27 pm, Ruben Gamez sent the following > The first is a written test which has J2SE, Servlet, and JSP questions. > The second is a programming test, they must write a JSP page that form > posts to a Servlet, that retrieves ANYTHING from a Bean and outputs it > in the Servlet. I have a lab computer set up with everything except the > code. They must also use notepad to do this. Wow, sounds like entry level coding to me! And you're having trouble getting people to pass these things? -Dave - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
