Re: [OT] RE: 24X7 deployment tips

2005-01-14 Thread Faisal Abdullah
I guess there is. By fixing the code.

On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 18:05:42 +, Mark Benussi
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> The reason this is off topic is that I was wondering if anyone has ever
> found a way of recovering leaked memory, without restarting the JVM?
>

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RE: 24X7 deployment tips

2005-01-13 Thread Rajaneesh
Oh! Thanks

   Now I realise that in some appservers/ tools changing the WAR file does
not need restarting
and Changing the EJB requires restarting the server. So it is the same case
here then :-)

Regards
Rajaneesh

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From: Phillip Qin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 8:16 PM
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Subject: RE: 24X7 deployment tips


Non-clustering.

The deploy task does not shutdown the container. It undeploys your webapp
and then deploy the new war.

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From: Rajaneesh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: January 12, 2005 12:36 AM
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Subject: RE: 24X7 deployment tips


Hu Philip,

  Are you are deploying the application in a non clustered environment or
clustered environment in the production?


Regards
Rajaneesh

-Original Message-
From: Phillip Qin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 11:14 PM
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Subject: RE: 24X7 deployment tips


I use Tomcat Manager (actually catalina-ant taks) to deploy my webapps from
my dev box to remote linux server. I don't have to shutdown server by doing
that. However, I do sometimes run into "Out Of Memory" issues after I deploy
applications hundreds times.

-Original Message-
From: sunil goyal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: January 11, 2005 12:31 PM
To: tomcat-user@jakarta.apache.org
Subject: 24X7 deployment tips


Hi all,

I am looking for resources for building and deploying
24X7 large scale web applications using Java. Can
anyone point towards any good books/links for the
same?

If I am trying to deploy an application via
apache/tomcat on a linux platform, is it possible to
upgrade certain servlets without actually shutting
down the server. What kind of principle is generally
followed in real life applications for the same?

Any help in this regard is appreciated.

Thanks

Regards
Sunil


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RE: 24X7 deployment tips

2005-01-12 Thread Phillip Qin
Non-clustering.

The deploy task does not shutdown the container. It undeploys your webapp
and then deploy the new war.

-Original Message-
From: Rajaneesh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: January 12, 2005 12:36 AM
To: 'Tomcat Users List'
Subject: RE: 24X7 deployment tips


Hu Philip,

  Are you are deploying the application in a non clustered environment or
clustered environment in the production?


Regards
Rajaneesh

-Original Message-
From: Phillip Qin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 11:14 PM
To: 'Tomcat Users List'
Subject: RE: 24X7 deployment tips


I use Tomcat Manager (actually catalina-ant taks) to deploy my webapps from
my dev box to remote linux server. I don't have to shutdown server by doing
that. However, I do sometimes run into "Out Of Memory" issues after I deploy
applications hundreds times.

-Original Message-
From: sunil goyal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: January 11, 2005 12:31 PM
To: tomcat-user@jakarta.apache.org
Subject: 24X7 deployment tips


Hi all,

I am looking for resources for building and deploying
24X7 large scale web applications using Java. Can
anyone point towards any good books/links for the
same?

If I am trying to deploy an application via
apache/tomcat on a linux platform, is it possible to
upgrade certain servlets without actually shutting
down the server. What kind of principle is generally
followed in real life applications for the same?

Any help in this regard is appreciated.

Thanks

Regards
Sunil


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RE: 24X7 deployment tips

2005-01-11 Thread Rajaneesh
Hu Philip,

  Are you are deploying the application in a non clustered
environment or clustered environment in the production?


Regards
Rajaneesh

-Original Message-
From: Phillip Qin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 11:14 PM
To: 'Tomcat Users List'
Subject: RE: 24X7 deployment tips


I use Tomcat Manager (actually catalina-ant taks) to deploy my webapps from
my dev box to remote linux server. I don't have to shutdown server by doing
that. However, I do sometimes run into "Out Of Memory" issues after I deploy
applications hundreds times.

-Original Message-
From: sunil goyal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: January 11, 2005 12:31 PM
To: tomcat-user@jakarta.apache.org
Subject: 24X7 deployment tips


Hi all,

I am looking for resources for building and deploying
24X7 large scale web applications using Java. Can
anyone point towards any good books/links for the
same?

If I am trying to deploy an application via
apache/tomcat on a linux platform, is it possible to
upgrade certain servlets without actually shutting
down the server. What kind of principle is generally
followed in real life applications for the same?

Any help in this regard is appreciated.

Thanks

Regards
Sunil


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[OT] RE: 24X7 deployment tips

2005-01-11 Thread Mark Benussi
Ah good old memory leaks, I see more and more messages regarding this 
although thankfully I have never experienced it myself.

The reason this is off topic is that I was wondering if anyone has ever 
found a way of recovering leaked memory, without restarting the JVM?

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From: Phillip Qin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: "Tomcat Users List" 
To: 'Tomcat Users List' 
Subject: RE: 24X7 deployment tips
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 12:43:46 -0500
I use Tomcat Manager (actually catalina-ant taks) to deploy my webapps from
my dev box to remote linux server. I don't have to shutdown server by doing
that. However, I do sometimes run into "Out Of Memory" issues after I deploy
applications hundreds times.
-Original Message-
From: sunil goyal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: January 11, 2005 12:31 PM
To: tomcat-user@jakarta.apache.org
Subject: 24X7 deployment tips
Hi all,
I am looking for resources for building and deploying
24X7 large scale web applications using Java. Can
anyone point towards any good books/links for the
same?
If I am trying to deploy an application via
apache/tomcat on a linux platform, is it possible to
upgrade certain servlets without actually shutting
down the server. What kind of principle is generally
followed in real life applications for the same?
Any help in this regard is appreciated.
Thanks
Regards
Sunil
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RE: 24X7 deployment tips

2005-01-11 Thread Phillip Qin
I use Tomcat Manager (actually catalina-ant taks) to deploy my webapps from
my dev box to remote linux server. I don't have to shutdown server by doing
that. However, I do sometimes run into "Out Of Memory" issues after I deploy
applications hundreds times.

-Original Message-
From: sunil goyal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: January 11, 2005 12:31 PM
To: tomcat-user@jakarta.apache.org
Subject: 24X7 deployment tips


Hi all,

I am looking for resources for building and deploying
24X7 large scale web applications using Java. Can
anyone point towards any good books/links for the
same?

If I am trying to deploy an application via
apache/tomcat on a linux platform, is it possible to
upgrade certain servlets without actually shutting
down the server. What kind of principle is generally
followed in real life applications for the same?

Any help in this regard is appreciated.

Thanks

Regards
Sunil 


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RE: 24X7 deployment tips

2005-01-11 Thread Mark Benussi
Hi Sunil,
I think they keyword for your scenario is clustering.
Running multiple syncronised applications and databases allows you to take 
down servers during quiet periods and still maintain a service via the other 
servers whilst they are upgraded one by one.

Saying that I have worked on global .coms that always allow for some down 
time during large releases / maintenance. It is not going to be easy but I 
am sure you appreciate that.

One more thing that may cause a headache is session persistence under some 
Tomcat clustering models.

Thats all i can think of but i'm sure you will get better advice than mine.
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From: sunil goyal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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To: tomcat-user@jakarta.apache.org
Subject: 24X7 deployment tips
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 09:30:39 -0800 (PST)
Hi all,
I am looking for resources for building and deploying
24X7 large scale web applications using Java. Can
anyone point towards any good books/links for the
same?
If I am trying to deploy an application via
apache/tomcat on a linux platform, is it possible to
upgrade certain servlets without actually shutting
down the server. What kind of principle is generally
followed in real life applications for the same?
Any help in this regard is appreciated.
Thanks
Regards
Sunil
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